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NoNoBadDog! said:
My remark was in regard to the fact that WordPerfect is so old school
and behind the times. Why have the latest OS to run a piece of
software lid Wordperfect that should have died 10 years ago?
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It's *your* view that WordPerfect is "so old school and behind the times."
My view, and that of many others, is that it remains the best word processor
available.

Certainly everyone doesn't agree with me, since many more copies of Word are
sold. But don't assume that everyone agrees with you either.
 
'miss-information' wrote, in part:
| Again your wrong. What you call, "all the bells and whistles" is as
follows.
| A Windows Vista Premium Ready PC includes at least:
|
| a.. 1 GHz 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor.
| b.. 1 GB of system memory.
| c.. Support for DirectX 9 graphics with a WDDM driver, 128 MB of graphics
| memory (minimum), Pixel Shader 2.0 and 32 bits per pixel.
| d.. 40 GB of hard drive capacity with 15 GB free space.
| e.. DVD-ROM Drive.
| f.. Audio output capability.
| g.. Internet access capability.
| Read twice, don't post. This is for a "Premium" not 'miminum' PC
|
| As I stated above the ATI 128mb on a Dell Notebook qualifys.

The Microsoft listed hardware requirements for 'Premium Vista' are the
minimum requirements for that level.

I posted:

"If you can wait a few months, hold off on purchasing a new laptop. Prices
of laptops that don't support all the Vista bells and whistles will drop,
and you can then choose to go with either lower price or Vista as the
installed operating system."

in reply to

| >"I am thinking of purchasing a Dell laptop, and someone advised that I
wait
| >until Vista comes out. I have XP Pro on my desktop and have been happy
with
| >it, but is there some advantage in waiting for Vista?"<

The Microsoft listed hardware requirements for 'Premium Vista' are the
minimum requirements for that level.

Phil Weldon

|
| | > 'miss-information' wrote:
| >
| > | If the OP waits to buy a Dell after Vista is released there will be no
| > | upgrade, it will be installed on the notebook.
| >
| > Yes, but the original post asked for help on deciding whether to buy now
| > or
| > latter. Your statement misses that point.
|
| No, your reply which is false and misleading missed the point. The OP ask:
| >"I am thinking of purchasing a Dell laptop, and someone advised that I
wait
| >until Vista comes out. I have XP Pro on my desktop and have been happy
with
| >it, but is there some advantage in waiting for Vista?"<
|
| Yes, there is an advantage. You get a OS technology that is 5 years ahead
| of XP. You will get hardware and drivers that are guarantied to be
| compatable. Upgrading a laptop or desktop to Vista could be problematic
| because not all hardware manufactureers will provide drivers for a new OS.
|
| > | Actually the ATI 128mb card is about a $100.00 difference from the
Intel
| > | 128mb onboard chip. Everything else is Vista compatible. I have a 8
| > month
| > | old Dell Inspiron that's Vista ready.
|
| > There is a difference between the 'miminum' requirements for Vista, and
| > the
| > requirements for 'all the bells and whistles'.
| > Read twice, post once.
| > Phil Weldon
|
| Again your wrong. What you call, "all the bells and whistles" is as
follows.
| A Windows Vista Premium Ready PC includes at least:
|
| a.. 1 GHz 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor.
| b.. 1 GB of system memory.
| c.. Support for DirectX 9 graphics with a WDDM driver, 128 MB of graphics
| memory (minimum), Pixel Shader 2.0 and 32 bits per pixel.
| d.. 40 GB of hard drive capacity with 15 GB free space.
| e.. DVD-ROM Drive.
| f.. Audio output capability.
| g.. Internet access capability.
| Read twice, don't post. This is for a "Premium" not 'miminum' PC
|
| As I stated above the ATI 128mb on a Dell Notebook qualifys.
|
|
|
 
WordPerfect always has been and continues to be far superior to that
piece of crap MS Word. So there.

Craig

NoNoBadDog! wrote:
 
Ken Blake said:
It's *your* view that WordPerfect is "so old school and behind the times."
My view, and that of many others, is that it remains the best word
processor available.

Certainly everyone doesn't agree with me, since many more copies of Word
are sold. But don't assume that everyone agrees with you either.
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I accept that there are some who share your viewpoint. My concern is that
Word is more efficient, more intuitive, and therefore more productive. I
value my time, and would rather use a product that allows me to accomplish
my work as quickly and efficiently as possible. In that regard, Wordperfect
just cannot hold a candle to Word.

Bobby
 
NoNoBadDog! said:
I accept that there are some who share your viewpoint. My concern is
that Word is more efficient, more intuitive, and therefore more
productive. I value my time, and would rather use a product that
allows me to accomplish my work as quickly and efficiently as
possible. In that regard, Wordperfect just cannot hold a candle to
Word.
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I completely disagree. My personal view is that it's the other way around
entirely.

I have no problem with your having a viewpoint different from mine, and as I
said, I know that my view is a minority one. My only complaint with what you
say is that you state your view as if were fact. It's not--it's nothing more
than *your* view, and it's not everyone's view.

My intent is not to get into an argument about which is the better product
(which would be way off-topic here), but to point out that these things are
a matter of opinion, and opinions are are often greatly colored by which
features we use and therefore find most important. So it's also true that
which product is best for *you* (in any product category, not just word
processing) is not necessarily the same as what's best for anyone else.

And finally, let me point out that, because Word is so prevalent, most
WordPerfect users know much more about Word than Word users know about
WordPerfect, and are therefore probably in a better position to judge the
differences between them . For example, I have both installed here. Do you?
 
Ken Blake said:
I completely disagree. My personal view is that it's the other way around
entirely.

I have no problem with your having a viewpoint different from mine, and as
I said, I know that my view is a minority one. My only complaint with what
you say is that you state your view as if were fact. It's not--it's
nothing more than *your* view, and it's not everyone's view.

My intent is not to get into an argument about which is the better product
(which would be way off-topic here), but to point out that these things
are a matter of opinion, and opinions are are often greatly colored by
which features we use and therefore find most important. So it's also true
that which product is best for *you* (in any product category, not just
word processing) is not necessarily the same as what's best for anyone
else.

And finally, let me point out that, because Word is so prevalent, most
WordPerfect users know much more about Word than Word users know about
WordPerfect, and are therefore probably in a better position to judge the
differences between them . For example, I have both installed here. Do
you?
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I have use both, and in both PC and Mac variants. I *can* state
unequivocally that Word is easier and more intuitive to use. Even before it
was purchased by Corel, WP was just not as user friendly.

I used WP from the earliest DOS days, when you had to have very acrobatic
fingers to accomplish some of the keystrokes necessary to accomplish simple
tasks. Those days are long gone, but even now WP just does not have the
"finesse" that Word does.

Bobby
 
Phil Weldon said:
Consider that any operating system installed on your Dell system does not
qualify you to install an upgrade version of Windows Vista.
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Eh? Of course it would.
 
John John said:
Yes indeed! And not to mention being told that WGA spyware is a
"Critical" update to be urgently downloaded and installed by guinea pigs
only to be then told that the software that they legally own and paid for
is pirated!

I am now recommending certain type of users that they strongly consider
Mac's instead of Windows based computers. Grandma and Grandpa who only
want to send/receive pictures, video clips and emails from the kids and
grandkids don't need Microsoft products.

John
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And why not Linux? Your users don't need to change to expensive hardware as
Linux will install on their current machines........
 
Okay, now what you're saying is preposterous. I'll give you just one
example. Insome circumstances, Word permits you to type outside set
margins. How dumb is that?

Plus, WordPerfect has Reveal Codes, an invaluable feature that Word
lacks. There is really no comparison. WordPerfect is by far the more
user-friendly program, and it can do far more, too.

Craig
 
cschiller1 said:
Okay, now what you're saying is preposterous. I'll give you just one
example. Insome circumstances, Word permits you to type outside set
margins. How dumb is that?

Plus, WordPerfect has Reveal Codes, an invaluable feature that Word
lacks. There is really no comparison. WordPerfect is by far the more
user-friendly program, and it can do far more, too.
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You're wasting your breath, Craig. Some people have a quasi-religious
attachment to the particular software products they use, and you won't talk
them out of it any more than you can talk a Catholic insto converting to
Islam.

For my part, whether I can understand why or not, I'm willing to accept that
for Bobby's word processing uses,Word is "Word is easier and more intuitive
to use." I only wish that he could similarly accept that for *my* word
processing uses,WordPerfect is easier and more intuitive to use. What works
best for one person isn't necessarily best for everyone.
 
Ken -

I know what you say is true. It's just that *I* find Word so horribly
un-user-friendly and anti-intuitive that anyone who actually *likes*
that POS makes me nuts.

I'll go take my medication now.

Craig
 
Both are completely irrelevant.

You can set Word to not to accept input outside set margins, and Word also
has reveal, so that you can see non printing characters, hard spaces and
formatting, etc.

You are fighting a losing battle here. You can crow all day long and I'll
neither switch nor agree...

Time to let it rest...we just have different opinions.

Bobby
 
Bobby -

I really have no interest in trying to get you to switch --- you're
obviously a confirmed Word user. I just don't like to see WordPerfect
spoken ill of.

And for the record, it's ridiculous that you have to "set" Word not to
accept input outside margins. What are the margins good for if they need
a special setting to work properly? And also for the record, Word has
nothing like WP's Reveal Codes feature. Seeing *some* non-printing
characters doesn't even come close.

Be well.

Craig
 
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