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I am thinking of purchasing a Dell laptop, and someone advised that I
wait until Vista comes out. I have XP Pro on my desktop and have been
happy with it, but is there some advantage in waiting for Vista? Would
Vista be compatible with files that I might transfer from the pc to the
laptop?

I'd hate to think that I would need new firewalls, anti-virus programs,
and other software (such as WordPerfect) to work with Vista.

I really don't know what to do at this point.

Any suggestions appreciated.
 
richard said:
I am thinking of purchasing a Dell laptop, and someone advised that I
wait until Vista comes out. I have XP Pro on my desktop and have been
happy with it, but is there some advantage in waiting for Vista? Would
Vista be compatible with files that I might transfer from the pc to the
laptop?

I'd hate to think that I would need new firewalls, anti-virus programs,
and other software (such as WordPerfect) to work with Vista.
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Vista will not be out until next year...
if you need the laptop now...might as well get it...


Besides...I'd not want to be one of the first people to use a new OS...
there are bound to be some bugs in it :)
 
'richard' wrote:
| I am thinking of purchasing a Dell laptop, and someone advised that I
| wait until Vista comes out. I have XP Pro on my desktop and have been
| happy with it, but is there some advantage in waiting for Vista? Would
| Vista be compatible with files that I might transfer from the pc to the
| laptop?
|
| I'd hate to think that I would need new firewalls, anti-virus programs,
| and other software (such as WordPerfect) to work with Vista.
|
| I really don't know what to do at this point.
_____

Consider that any operating system installed on your Dell system does not
qualify you to install an upgrade version of Windows Vista. You will have
to pay for a full retail version of Vista to upgrade. Also consider 'Vista
ready' systems so that, if you wish, you CAN get the full benefit of Vista
if you upgrade.

A notebook that fully supports all the bells and whistles of Vista will
require a more powerful video adapter that all but the most expensive
laptops lack.

If you can wait a few months, hold off on purchasing a new laptop. Prices
of laptops that don't support all the Vista bells and whistles will drop,
and you can then choose to go with either lower price or Vista as the
installed operating system.

Your anti-malware programs may be updated to Vista capability (if needed)
through your subscription. Check with the publishers for confirmation.
Applications like WordPerfect should work with Vista just as well as they do
under Windows XP.

Phil Weldon




|I am thinking of purchasing a Dell laptop, and someone advised that I
| wait until Vista comes out. I have XP Pro on my desktop and have been
| happy with it, but is there some advantage in waiting for Vista? Would
| Vista be compatible with files that I might transfer from the pc to the
| laptop?
|
| I'd hate to think that I would need new firewalls, anti-virus programs,
| and other software (such as WordPerfect) to work with Vista.
|
| I really don't know what to do at this point.
|
| Any suggestions appreciated.
 
Consider that any operating system installed on your Dell system does not
qualify you to install an upgrade version of Windows Vista. You will have
to pay for a full retail version of Vista to upgrade. Also consider
'Vista
ready' systems so that, if you wish, you CAN get the full benefit of Vista
if you upgrade.
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If the OP waits to buy a Dell after Vista is released there will be no
upgrade, it will be installed on the notebook.

Actually the ATI 128mb card is about a $100.00 difference from the Intel
128mb onboard chip. Everything else is Vista compatable. I have a 8 month
old Dell Inspiron that's Vista ready.
 
'Ron Martell' wrote:
| Balderdash.
| See http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/getready/upgradeinfo.mspx
_____

Your post misses the point. No bulk licensed Windows XP operating system
(as comes installed in Dell computers)qualifies for an upgrade version of
Windows XP or Vista. It is not a question of system performance, but a
condition of license enforced by Microsoft 'Windows Genuine Advantage'.

Phil Weldon

|
|
| >
| >Consider that any operating system installed on your Dell system does not
| >qualify you to install an upgrade version of Windows Vista.
|
| Balderdash.
| See http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/getready/upgradeinfo.mspx
|
|
| Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
| --
| Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
| On-Line Help Computer Service
| http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
| Syberfix Remote Computer Repair
|
| "Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
| has never been in bed with a mosquito."
 
'miss-information' wrote:

| If the OP waits to buy a Dell after Vista is released there will be no
| upgrade, it will be installed on the notebook.

Yes, but the original post asked for help on deciding whether to buy now or
latter. Your statement misses that point.

| Actually the ATI 128mb card is about a $100.00 difference from the Intel
| 128mb onboard chip. Everything else is Vista compatible. I have a 8 month
| old Dell Inspiron that's Vista ready.

There is a difference between the 'miminum' requirements for Vista, and the
requirements for 'all the bells and whistles'.
Read twice, post once.

Phil Weldon

|
|
| >> 'richard' wrote:
| >> I am thinking of purchasing a Dell laptop, and someone advised that I
| >> wait until Vista comes out.
|
| > Consider that any operating system installed on your Dell system does
not
| > qualify you to install an upgrade version of Windows Vista. You will
have
| > to pay for a full retail version of Vista to upgrade. Also consider
| > 'Vista
| > ready' systems so that, if you wish, you CAN get the full benefit of
Vista
| >if you upgrade.
|
| If the OP waits to buy a Dell after Vista is released there will be no
| upgrade, it will be installed on the notebook.
|
| > >A notebook that fully supports all the bells and whistles of Vista will
| > >require a more powerful video adapter that all but the most expensive
| > >laptops lack.
|
| Actually the ATI 128mb card is about a $100.00 difference from the Intel
| 128mb onboard chip. Everything else is Vista compatable. I have a 8 month
| old Dell Inspiron that's Vista ready.
|
| > Phil Weldon
|
|
 
Hi Phil,

Actually, you missed it. Regardless of the "bulk" licensing, a preinstalled
system is eligible for upgrade. WGA enforces legitimacy of the license, and
has nothing to do with upgrading.

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
 
richard said:
I am thinking of purchasing a Dell laptop, and someone advised that I wait
until Vista comes out. I have XP Pro on my desktop and have been happy with
it, but is there some advantage in waiting for Vista? Would Vista be
compatible with files that I might transfer from the pc to the laptop?

I'd hate to think that I would need new firewalls, anti-virus programs,
and other software (such as WordPerfect) to work with Vista.

I really don't know what to do at this point.

Any suggestions appreciated.
Click to expand...

Anyone who still uses Wordperfect shouldn't concern themselves with Vista.

Bobby
 
Phil said:
_____

Your post misses the point. No bulk licensed Windows XP operating
system (as comes installed in Dell computers)qualifies for an upgrade
version of Windows XP or Vista. It is not a question of system
performance, but a condition of license enforced by Microsoft
'Windows Genuine Advantage'.
Click to expand...


His post doesn't miss the point and is exactly right. All versions of
Windows XP, whether OEM or retail, qualify for upgrades.
 
richard said:
I am thinking of purchasing a Dell laptop, and someone advised that I wait
until Vista comes out. I have XP Pro on my desktop and have been happy with
it, but is there some advantage in waiting for Vista? Would Vista be
compatible with files that I might transfer from the pc to the laptop?

I'd hate to think that I would need new firewalls, anti-virus programs,
and other software (such as WordPerfect) to work with Vista.

I really don't know what to do at this point.

Any suggestions appreciated.
Click to expand...

If you upgrade to Vista you will need a new AV for certain. However AVG is
reported to be working with the latest builds of Vista being tested. Only
you can determine how pressing your needs are. If you need the laptop now
then go for it.
 
'Rick Rogers' wrote:
| Actually, you missed it. Regardless of the "bulk" licensing, a
preinstalled
| system is eligible for upgrade. WGA enforces legitimacy of the license,
and
| has nothing to do with upgrading.
|
_____

Oops, you are right. I was wrong.
Thanks for the correction.

Phil Weldon

| Hi Phil,
|
| Actually, you missed it. Regardless of the "bulk" licensing, a
preinstalled
| system is eligible for upgrade. WGA enforces legitimacy of the license,
and
| has nothing to do with upgrading.
|
| --
| Best of Luck,
|
| Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP
|
| Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
|
| | > 'Ron Martell' wrote:
| > | Balderdash.
| > | See http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/getready/upgradeinfo.mspx
| > _____
| >
| > Your post misses the point. No bulk licensed Windows XP operating
system
| > (as comes installed in Dell computers)qualifies for an upgrade version
of
| > Windows XP or Vista. It is not a question of system performance, but a
| > condition of license enforced by Microsoft 'Windows Genuine Advantage'.
| >
| > Phil Weldon
| >
| > | > |
| > |
| > | >
| > | >Consider that any operating system installed on your Dell system does
| > not
| > | >qualify you to install an upgrade version of Windows Vista.
| > |
| > | Balderdash.
| > | See http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/getready/upgradeinfo.mspx
| > |
| > |
| > | Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
| > | --
| > | Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
| > | On-Line Help Computer Service
| > | http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
| > | Syberfix Remote Computer Repair
| > |
| > | "Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
| > | has never been in bed with a mosquito."
| >
| >
|
 
'Ken Blake' wrote:
| His post doesn't miss the point and is exactly right. All versions of
| Windows XP, whether OEM or retail, qualify for upgrades.
_____

Oops, you are right. I was wrong.
Thanks for the correction.

| Phil Weldon wrote:
|
| > 'Ron Martell' wrote:
| >> Balderdash.
| >> See http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/getready/upgradeinfo.mspx
| > _____
| >
| > Your post misses the point. No bulk licensed Windows XP operating
| > system (as comes installed in Dell computers)qualifies for an upgrade
| > version of Windows XP or Vista. It is not a question of system
| > performance, but a condition of license enforced by Microsoft
| > 'Windows Genuine Advantage'.
|
|
| His post doesn't miss the point and is exactly right. All versions of
| Windows XP, whether OEM or retail, qualify for upgrades.
|
| --
| Ken Blake - Microsoft MVP Windows: Shell/User
| Please reply to the newsgroup
|
|
 
'Ron Martel' wrote:
| Balderdash.
| See http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/getready/upgradeinfo.mspx
_____

Oops, you are right and I was wrong.
I did, however read your cite before posting.

Phil Weldon

|
|
| >
| >Consider that any operating system installed on your Dell system does not
| >qualify you to install an upgrade version of Windows Vista.
|
| Balderdash.
| See http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/getready/upgradeinfo.mspx
|
|
| Ron Martell Duncan B.C. Canada
| --
| Microsoft MVP (1997 - 2006)
| On-Line Help Computer Service
| http://onlinehelp.bc.ca
| Syberfix Remote Computer Repair
|
| "Anyone who thinks that they are too small to make a difference
| has never been in bed with a mosquito."
 
Phil Weldon said:
'miss-information' wrote:

| If the OP waits to buy a Dell after Vista is released there will be no
| upgrade, it will be installed on the notebook.

Yes, but the original post asked for help on deciding whether to buy now
or
latter. Your statement misses that point.
Click to expand...

No, your reply which is false and misleading missed the point. The OP ask:
"I am thinking of purchasing a Dell laptop, and someone advised that I wait
until Vista comes out. I have XP Pro on my desktop and have been happy with
it, but is there some advantage in waiting for Vista?"<
Click to expand...

Yes, there is an advantage. You get a OS technology that is 5 years ahead
of XP. You will get hardware and drivers that are guarantied to be
compatable. Upgrading a laptop or desktop to Vista could be problematic
because not all hardware manufactureers will provide drivers for a new OS.
| Actually the ATI 128mb card is about a $100.00 difference from the Intel
| 128mb onboard chip. Everything else is Vista compatible. I have a 8
month
| old Dell Inspiron that's Vista ready.
Click to expand...
There is a difference between the 'miminum' requirements for Vista, and
the
requirements for 'all the bells and whistles'.
Read twice, post once.
Phil Weldon
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Again your wrong. What you call, "all the bells and whistles" is as follows.
A Windows Vista Premium Ready PC includes at least:

a.. 1 GHz 32-bit (x86) or 64-bit (x64) processor.
b.. 1 GB of system memory.
c.. Support for DirectX 9 graphics with a WDDM driver, 128 MB of graphics
memory (minimum), Pixel Shader 2.0 and 32 bits per pixel.
d.. 40 GB of hard drive capacity with 15 GB free space.
e.. DVD-ROM Drive.
f.. Audio output capability.
g.. Internet access capability.
Read twice, don't post. This is for a "Premium" not 'miminum' PC

As I stated above the ATI 128mb on a Dell Notebook qualifys.
 
NoNoBadDog! said:
Anyone who still uses Wordperfect shouldn't concern themselves with Vista.

Bobby
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Come on Bobby give the kid a break. It's called Compatability Mode for
WordPerfect. If your anti-virus program doesn't give you a free update there
is AVG for one. And Zone Alarm is a good free firewall.
mi
 
miss-information said:
Come on Bobby give the kid a break. It's called Compatability Mode for
WordPerfect. If your anti-virus program doesn't give you a free update
there is AVG for one. And Zone Alarm is a good free firewall.
mi
Click to expand...

I wasn't concerned about compatibility.

My remark was in regard to the fact that WordPerfect is so old school and
behind the times. Why have the latest OS to run a piece of software lid
Wordperfect that should have died 10 years ago?

Bobby
 
No harm done, and it's easy to get them confused with all the different
points about activating, legitimizing, allowed and disallowed upgrade
scenarios. I wonder sometimes why more people don't migrate to linux for
home use now that versions are out there that are no more difficult to learn
than is Windows, but without the aggravation of licensing (or pricing).

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org
 
Rick said:
No harm done, and it's easy to get them confused with all the different
points about activating, legitimizing, allowed and disallowed upgrade
scenarios. I wonder sometimes why more people don't migrate to linux for
home use now that versions are out there that are no more difficult to
learn than is Windows, but without the aggravation of licensing (or
pricing).
Click to expand...

Yes indeed! And not to mention being told that WGA spyware is a
"Critical" update to be urgently downloaded and installed by guinea pigs
only to be then told that the software that they legally own and paid
for is pirated!

I am now recommending certain type of users that they strongly consider
Mac's instead of Windows based computers. Grandma and Grandpa who only
want to send/receive pictures, video clips and emails from the kids and
grandkids don't need Microsoft products.

John
 
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