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JAX
I hope it works for the OP.
Cheers, JAX
Cheers, JAX
Sharon F said:
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Gene K
For the other problem, there are plenty of Shutdown utilities available
which ease the problem [small though it may be], some free, some not. Look
here: http://www.soft411.com/software/auto-shutdown-xp_2.html . Do not stop
there. Type "Shutdown software" in Google or Yahoo and look at the results.
"No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in
session." (Judge Gideon J. Tucker, 1866.)
which ease the problem [small though it may be], some free, some not. Look
here: http://www.soft411.com/software/auto-shutdown-xp_2.html . Do not stop
there. Type "Shutdown software" in Google or Yahoo and look at the results.
"No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the legislature is in
session." (Judge Gideon J. Tucker, 1866.)
J
JAX
Hi again Sharon,
Now that I think about it, isn't a "hard shutdown" a bit of a burden on the
HD? It seems that I lost a drive that way some years ago. If memory serves,
it had something to do with the heads not having a chance to go back to the
home position before restart. I would not argue the point, as I am getting
rather old and don't remember everything in its proper order. If you can
shed a bit of light on this for me, it would be greatly appreciated.
JAX
Now that I think about it, isn't a "hard shutdown" a bit of a burden on the
HD? It seems that I lost a drive that way some years ago. If memory serves,
it had something to do with the heads not having a chance to go back to the
home position before restart. I would not argue the point, as I am getting
rather old and don't remember everything in its proper order. If you can
shed a bit of light on this for me, it would be greatly appreciated.
JAX
C
Colin Barnhorst
Modern hard drives are designed for continuous use. The greatest torque and
therefore the greatest stress on the spindle is startup and shutdown. It is
a matter of your comfort zone as to whether you just let the computer run
continuously. I read somewhere that the mean time to failure was nearly 70
years.
therefore the greatest stress on the spindle is startup and shutdown. It is
a matter of your comfort zone as to whether you just let the computer run
continuously. I read somewhere that the mean time to failure was nearly 70
years.
JAX said:Hi again Sharon,
Now that I think about it, isn't a "hard shutdown" a bit of a burden on
the HD? It seems that I lost a drive that way some years ago. If memory
serves, it had something to do with the heads not having a chance to go
back to the home position before restart. I would not argue the point, as
I am getting rather old and don't remember everything in its proper order.
If you can shed a bit of light on this for me, it would be greatly
appreciated.
JAX
J
JAX
To leave the computer running continuously, or not, was not the issue. A
"hard shutdown" was the point of interest.
JAX
"hard shutdown" was the point of interest.
JAX
Colin Barnhorst said:Modern hard drives are designed for continuous use. The greatest torque
and therefore the greatest stress on the spindle is startup and shutdown.
It is a matter of your comfort zone as to whether you just let the
computer run continuously. I read somewhere that the mean time to failure
was nearly 70 years.
J
Jim Macklin
"No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the
legislature is in
| session." (Judge Gideon J. Tucker, 1866.)
| --
--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
| For the other problem, there are plenty of Shutdown
utilities available
| which ease the problem [small though it may be], some
free, some not. Look
| here:
http://www.soft411.com/software/auto-shutdown-xp_2.html . Do
not stop
| there. Type "Shutdown software" in Google or Yahoo and
look at the results.
| "No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the
legislature is in
| session." (Judge Gideon J. Tucker, 1866.)
| --
| Gene K
| | >
| > thanks rick, much appreciated.
| >
| > On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 20:33:53 -0500, "Rick \"Nutcase\"
Rogers"
| >
| >>Hi Jake,
| >>
| >>This should resolve half of your problem:
| >>
| >>Click start/run, type "control userpasswords2" (without
the quotes) and
| >>click ok. Uncheck the box requiring a username and
password, click
| >>apply/ok
| >>and follow the prompts to set up a default logon.
| >
|
|
legislature is in
| session." (Judge Gideon J. Tucker, 1866.)
| --
--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
| For the other problem, there are plenty of Shutdown
utilities available
| which ease the problem [small though it may be], some
free, some not. Look
| here:
http://www.soft411.com/software/auto-shutdown-xp_2.html . Do
not stop
| there. Type "Shutdown software" in Google or Yahoo and
look at the results.
| "No man's life, liberty, or property is safe while the
legislature is in
| session." (Judge Gideon J. Tucker, 1866.)
| --
| Gene K
| | >
| > thanks rick, much appreciated.
| >
| > On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 20:33:53 -0500, "Rick \"Nutcase\"
Rogers"
| >
| >>Hi Jake,
| >>
| >>This should resolve half of your problem:
| >>
| >>Click start/run, type "control userpasswords2" (without
the quotes) and
| >>click ok. Uncheck the box requiring a username and
password, click
| >>apply/ok
| >>and follow the prompts to set up a default logon.
| >
|
|
J
Jim Macklin
You have to hold the power button about 5-10 seconds to
begin the shutdown process.
--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
| Hi Sharon,
|
| It seems, that doesn't work with all setups. I have an AMI
motherboard, XP
| SP2, P4 3.2, etc, and the off button does not function
that way. It is in an
| Antec case. It has worked with other cases.
|
| JAX
| | > On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 20:15:12 -0500, Jake wrote:
| >
| >> then when I decide to shut down the computer wouldn't
it be great to
| >> just shut it down without having to first click on
start ,
| >>
| >> then click shut down,
| >> and then wait while it asks me if I am sure.
| >> then I have to click on Yes before it finally shuts
down.
| >
| > Control Panel> Power Options> Advanced> Power buttons.
Select "When I
| > press
| > the power button on my computer" and take "shut down"
from the drop down
| > list. Click OK.
| >
| > --
| > Sharon F
| > MS-MVP ~ Windows XP Shell/User
|
|
begin the shutdown process.
--
The people think the Constitution protects their rights;
But government sees it as an obstacle to be overcome.
| Hi Sharon,
|
| It seems, that doesn't work with all setups. I have an AMI
motherboard, XP
| SP2, P4 3.2, etc, and the off button does not function
that way. It is in an
| Antec case. It has worked with other cases.
|
| JAX
| | > On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 20:15:12 -0500, Jake wrote:
| >
| >> then when I decide to shut down the computer wouldn't
it be great to
| >> just shut it down without having to first click on
start ,
| >>
| >> then click shut down,
| >> and then wait while it asks me if I am sure.
| >> then I have to click on Yes before it finally shuts
down.
| >
| > Control Panel> Power Options> Advanced> Power buttons.
Select "When I
| > press
| > the power button on my computer" and take "shut down"
from the drop down
| > list. Click OK.
| >
| > --
| > Sharon F
| > MS-MVP ~ Windows XP Shell/User
|
|
T
Thomas Wendell
Shouldn't have been a problem for some 15 years.. That was with old ST-506
(and old SCSI) -interfaced HDs, that required the "parking" of the head...
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(and old SCSI) -interfaced HDs, that required the "parking" of the head...
--
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Helsinki, Finland (remove _NOSPAM)
(translations from FI/SE not always accurate)
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JAX said:Hi again Sharon,
Now that I think about it, isn't a "hard shutdown" a bit of a burden on the
HD? It seems that I lost a drive that way some years ago. If memory serves,
it had something to do with the heads not having a chance to go back to the
home position before restart. I would not argue the point, as I am getting
rather old and don't remember everything in its proper order. If you can
shed a bit of light on this for me, it would be greatly appreciated.
JAX
S
Sharon F
Hi again Sharon,
Now that I think about it, isn't a "hard shutdown" a bit of a burden on the
HD? It seems that I lost a drive that way some years ago. If memory serves,
it had something to do with the heads not having a chance to go back to the
home position before restart. I would not argue the point, as I am getting
rather old and don't remember everything in its proper order. If you can
shed a bit of light on this for me, it would be greatly appreciated.
Yes it is but ideally this setting should recreate the same type of
shutdown that occurs when a user would click Start> Turn Off Computer> Turn
Off Computer. I use it on one of my portable machines and have had no
trouble with it.