Windows XP 64bit 1218 is ready to download at Microsoft

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| Ugly Mugly wrote:
|
| > I guess you have been away from Windows for awhile. There is a program
out
| > that will let you remove many of the xtras that you misname "bloatware"
| > Heck, most versions of Linux come on 3 or more CD's nowdays. Windows
still
| > comes on 1 cd. So, who has the more xtras? :o)
|
|
| Yes, but while with Windows' 1 CD you get about 1.1G of stuff installed on
your
| harddrive and nothing more than the operating system, you need only 500M
of a
| Linux distro installed in your harddrive to get the operating system,
graphics
| environment and 2 or 3 desktop managers, compiler for C, C++, and Objc, 3
or 4
| assemblers, the devels of all libraries, an office suite, an imaging
program,
| cd recording utilites, web server and php interpreter, one or two database
| servers, multimedia utilities and a complete development environment.

Don't confuse him with facts lol.
 
Post said:
Hay, what do you expect?
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I don't expect nothing. Well... it would be nice to have a good operating system
without garbage, that doesn't crash, does exactly what it is supposed to do,
performs well, doesn't have driver versioning problems...
But these days that seems to be an utopy and the remains of the "Dreams of
Before".
 
Jason and Mugly:

Yikes! Relax.

It's just 2 points of view due to differing experiences.

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They support Theme (to have a "XP" like look and feel), parallel printer
port for printing, it include the same firewall than XP SP2 32 bits (1069
had not firewall)

This build also support the Intel EM64T computer (Xeon Nocoma and somes
futures Pentium 4)

Another thing : when I use Windows 64 bits build 1218 (XP64 or Win2003-64)
as network client and a 32 bits XP SP2 computer as file server, I've
incredible network performance (16 megabytes/sec with two Realtek 8139D, or
using the Realtek 8139D on the 32 bits computer and the gigabit port on the
motherboard of the 64 bits computer)
 
John Hollingsworth said:
That's an very interesting answer. AAMOI, do 32bit programs run OK, eg
Microsoft Office?

I ask because I've just built an A8V 3500+ system but gone for the XP Pro
32 bit, although I've got the original 64bit beta. I'm just wondering if
with the latest beta, its worth changing over. There seem to be quite a
lot of 64 bit drivers about now.

Thanks.

John

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32bit Apps run just fine. I've been running Java, Zend (java app), trillion
and MS office 2003 on XP64 with no real problems. The only issue I have is I
can't get spellcheck to work in OE and it seems like 32bit plugins to 64bit
IE don't work well, other than that it's just fine. Pretty impressive all
things considered.

Carlo
 
32bit Apps run just fine. I've been running Java, Zend (java app),
trillion and MS office 2003 on XP64 with no real problems. The only
issue I have is I can't get spellcheck to work in OE and it seems like
32bit plugins to 64bit IE don't work well, other than that it's just
fine. Pretty impressive all things considered.

Carlo
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Thanks Carlo, that's great :-)

John

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Carlo said:
32bit Apps run just fine. I've been running Java, Zend (java app), trillion
and MS office 2003 on XP64 with no real problems. The only issue I have is I
can't get spellcheck to work in OE and it seems like 32bit plugins to 64bit
IE don't work well, other than that it's just fine. Pretty impressive all
things considered.
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Wrong. Not all 32bit apps run. Visual Studio.NET 2003 won't even install,
refusing to install on a 64bit platform, ATI Multimedia Center doesn't even
start, Rainbow Six installer crashes and many other problems.
 
João Manuel Moura Paredes said:
Carlo Razzeto wrote:

Wrong. Not all 32bit apps run. Visual Studio.NET 2003 won't even install,
refusing to install on a 64bit platform, ATI Multimedia Center doesn't
even
start, Rainbow Six installer crashes and many other problems.
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Well, I don't have VS.Net 2003, I have 2002. Though I havn't even tried to
install it yet. I don't doubt there would be problems though since from what
I understand Microsoft doesn't have .Net ported to 64bits yet. For the most
part most 32bit apps run just fine, as you point out there are those which
have issues. For instance games will tend to have issues as probably 90% of
WinXP 64 users will be running on Beta 64 bit drivers as I am. Keep in mind
that this is a beta, that generally requires beta drivers to make it
work....

Carlo
 
Carlo said:
Well, I don't have VS.Net 2003, I have 2002. Though I havn't even tried to
install it yet. I don't doubt there would be problems though since from what
I understand Microsoft doesn't have .Net ported to 64bits yet. For the most
part most 32bit apps run just fine, as you point out there are those which
have issues. For instance games will tend to have issues as probably 90% of
WinXP 64 users will be running on Beta 64 bit drivers as I am. Keep in mind
that this is a beta, that generally requires beta drivers to make it
work....

Carlo
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Quake III ran well. But Visual Studio.NET 2003 should work in 32bit mode. And it
doesn't. It specifically says that it's not going to install itself on a 64bit
platform (perhaps feeling embarrassed with the power of the machine ;)). But MS
does have .Net ported to 64 bits, although still in beta stages. You can
download it from MS site, although I don't have the direct link here.
 
João Manuel Moura Paredes said:
Carlo Razzeto wrote:

Quake III ran well. But Visual Studio.NET 2003 should work in 32bit mode.
And it
doesn't. It specifically says that it's not going to install itself on a
64bit
platform (perhaps feeling embarrassed with the power of the machine ;)).
But MS
does have .Net ported to 64 bits, although still in beta stages. You can
download it from MS site, although I don't have the direct link here.
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Well, I guess they are further along in porting .Net over, but still. Visial
Studio needs to be patched to understand how to use the new framework.
Getting Visual Studio.Net to run on Windows64 is a much different
propisition than getting Quake III to run. I'm sure soon enough they'll have
something to get Visual Studio going, in the mean time WindowsXP 64 isn't in
any shape to be a day to day use workstation OS so it's best not to be
thinking of it quite yet. What it is right now is a preview of what should
be a fairly nice workstation OS. This is why I duel boot, I can do all my
..Net work in win32, and play around in Win64 whenever I want.

Carlo
 
Carlo said:
I'm sure soon enough they'll have
something to get Visual Studio going, in the mean time WindowsXP 64 isn't in
any shape to be a day to day use workstation OS so it's best not to be
thinking of it quite yet.

Carlo
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Win64 beta shouldn't be a day-to-day use workstation, but I do hope Win64 final
be. I am a low level developer (OS and programming language stuff) and cannot
do without a decent low level language compiler for the native architecture of
each machine I work on.
 
João Manuel Moura Paredes said:
Win64 beta shouldn't be a day-to-day use workstation, but I do hope Win64
final
be. I am a low level developer (OS and programming language stuff) and
cannot
do without a decent low level language compiler for the native
architecture of
each machine I work on.
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Should already be there... Microsoft has already discussed their driver
development tools for Win64 extensivly, I'm sure there's a beta you can
download at least. There for you should be able to code in C++/Assembler. By
the time Win64 is gold I'm sure you'll have everything you need to write any
system level app you want.

Carlo
 
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