Hmmm, pop over to MS Update Site ... Start/All programs Windows Update ... and press the 'custom' button. See if it lists it there for you.ranger said:Hello again Muckthirster,If I can bother you 1 more time.I installed sp2 off disc I had sent for,and still can't get movie maker 1 or 2.If there is simple answer ok otherwise dont extend yourself ,i'll ltry program you suggested.