Windows Media Player 11 Released

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You're right about the link but, of course, you're referring to the OP's
link, not mine. I don't have any links for downloading WMP.

Dale
 
OH Do not mention that Hot Bar horror to me...I had no idea how it got on my
last computer, since I hadn't downloaded one thing other than MS legit.
updates. But, I had to virtually get the CIA to get it off of my computer.
 
Dale said:
It's a fact about the stolen passwords.

Then provide the proof. Or are you just making it up?
You do the homework if you want proof.

How about you do the homework and furnish the proof? This is Logic 101,
Dale. The person making the positve claim (that would be you) furnishes the
proof. Why? Because it's easier than providing proof of the opposite and
it's more likely tha thte claimant would knwo the facts and thus be able to
provide them. Until you do, you just come across as a know-it-all who knows
nothing. If you want to appear that way, persist. If you want to demonstrate
your knowledge, provide the proof. It's not Rocket Sicence, you know.
Just remember that virtually all installations of Kazaa, Napster,
Weatherbug and HotBar include Gator. The Gator software installed a
"password protection service" where they surreptitiously captured every
password you entered and stored in their servers. Of course, they never
told you they were doing that so you never knew it but if you had known
it, you could, theoretically and for a price, contact them and recover a
password if you lost it.

You've now altered what you stated. You snipped what you said, so in case
you forgot here it is:
"Kazaa and Napster are responsible for more stolen passwords and more hacked
computers than any virus ever produced to date."

I don't believe you. I think you made it up.

It's "piss or get off the pot" time, Dale. :-)
 
Dale said:
Read my posts on the Vista group. You will see that I am completely
supportive of Microsoft's right to sell their products at a profit. My
only point is just what I said: WMP is not free. You paid for it when
you paid for Windows. Though it wasn't said in this thread, there are
often comments that complaints about WMP are not legitimate because it
was free anyway. It's not free at all, any more than Windows is free.

And the difference between "free" and "no additional cost" is not a hair
split. I cannot get WMP 11 if I have not already purchased Windows. It
is available at no additional cost. It is not available for free -
unless you're one of those who think that pirating Windows is morally
acceptable because the Venezuelan government ruled that it was ok to
sell knock-off cassette tapes of American copyrighted material for a
dollar in Buenos Aires.

Hey, not wishing to be picky in my first post on the newsgroup - Hi
everyone - but Buenos Aires is in Argentina :-)
 
Well, if you have copies of all the passwords to my computers, of my
passwords to my bank computers, credit card computers, etc. then aren't
those computers hacked?

As far as your statement that I have to prove it or get off the pot, well,
that's absurd. You can choose not to accept what I say, but your lack of
acceptance doesn't make it any less accurate.

My unwillingness to jump through hoops on the orders of some unseen and
anonymous newsgroup user says nothing about my character or my statement.
Your personal judgments based on my unwillingness to jump through said hoops
is more a reflection on your own character: You take yourself and this
medium much too seriously. I'm sure you're the type that has a cyber lover
(or several) and take that just as seriously.

Dale
 
Dale said:
Well, if you have copies of all the passwords to my computers, of my
passwords to my bank computers, credit card computers, etc. then aren't
those computers hacked?

Well, if I don't have copies of all your passwords, etc. aren't those
computers not hacked?

You said, ""Kazaa and Napster are responsible for more stolen passwords and
more hacked computers than any virus ever produced to date."

That requires two facts and a very simple analysis and comparison to support
your claim:
#1: A value representing the number of computers hacked and the number of
passwords stolen solely via Kazaa and Napster.
#2: A value representing the number of computers hacked and the number of
passwords stolen solely via viruses.

If the value for #1 is greater than the value for #2, you are correct. If it
isn't, you are wrong.
As far as your statement that I have to prove it or get off the pot, well,
that's absurd. You can choose not to accept what I say, but your lack of
acceptance doesn't make it any less accurate.

And it doens't make it accurate at all (DuH!).

I began by doubting your claim. I asked for proof. While the refusal to
provide proof doesn't prove the opposite, it does cast serious doubt on the
claim -- and the claimant. Your persistence in refusing to furnish any proof
other than off-track comments and bogus reasoning continues to strengthen
any doubt the reader may have. I believe it is reasonable to conclude that
if it were true you would have furnished proof by now. That you continue to
dodge and weave casts continuing doubt on the veracity of your claim and
your actual knowledge of such matters.

I think you are one of those typical bullshitters who inhabit tech groups
and are deluded into thinking that you actually have something worthwhile to
contribute. I could be wrong. I'm basing my opinion on all the evidence I
have before me to date. Whether you agree with me or not is of no
consequence to me.
 
Dale

What's this then?

Select Start, Help and Support, Keep your computer up to
date with Windows Update and double click Custom.

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Hope this helps.

Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England

Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
You missed the point. The OP of this whole thread, days and hundreds of
messages ago, posted a link for downloading WMP 11 from a website in the .cc
domain - wherever that is. That's the link that Keppy was referring to.
Apparently, he's not very literate and got the idea that I had started this
thread.

Dale
 
Dale

You grossly exaggerate the length of the thread. I know
how and who started it. Some people do read threads
before they post. I did not miss the point.

--

~~~~

Gerry

~~~~~~~~
Enquire, plan and execute.
Stourport, England
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
Dale

I now see that the idiot who started this thread started
at least two others posting each to several newsgroups.
However, it still seems to be that your reference to
hundreds of messages is a gross exaggeration.

--

~~~~

Gerry

~~~~~~~~
Enquire, plan and execute.
Stourport, England
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
Damn. You got me.

Dale


Gerry Cornell said:
Dale

I now see that the idiot who started this thread started
at least two others posting each to several newsgroups.
However, it still seems to be that your reference to
hundreds of messages is a gross exaggeration.

--

~~~~

Gerry

~~~~~~~~
Enquire, plan and execute.
Stourport, England
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
SteveG said:
Hey, not wishing to be picky in my first post on the newsgroup - Hi
everyone - but Buenos Aires is in Argentina :-)

I read on another forum that someone wrote WARNING-download WMP11 at
your
own risk, and another person said he downloaded WMP11 and it`s already
crashed
his system and he said (and my system never crashes).
JM
 
:
I downloaded and attempted install of WMP 11.
Half way through the install the computer froze bwith the Welcome to WMP 11
screen but none of the buttons will react nor wiill the screen go any further.
Repeated install attempts are refused.
Uninstall says it cannot roll back to WMP 10
System Restore lists several saved points prior to the WMP 11 install but
will not restore to any of them
Has any one else experienced this type of problem?
My office computer installd the program with no isues.
I have Win XP 2nd ed, 200 GB free, 1.5 GB RAM, 3.2 GHz P4
 
And the difference between "free" and "no additional cost" is not a hair
split. I cannot get WMP 11 if I have not already purchased Windows. It is
available at no additional cost. It is not available for free - unless
you're one of those who think that pirating Windows is morally acceptable
because the Venezuelan government ruled that it was ok to sell knock-off
cassette tapes of American copyrighted material for a dollar in Buenos
Aires.
yes, but what's particulary irritating is that it seems to be impossible to
upgrade from my 'paid for' WMP10 to the newer WMP11 because I seem to be
running xp media centre 2004!
I'm not paying for xp again just to get version 11 of the in-built media
player!

slightly peeved here because I've spent three days trying to get it to
install ;^(

all the best, DavyPaul, Cardiff UK.
(now, where did I put those Vista pre-requisites...)
 
David said:
yes, but what's particulary irritating is that it seems to be impossible to
upgrade from my 'paid for' WMP10 to the newer WMP11 because I seem to be
running xp media centre 2004!
I'm not paying for xp again just to get version 11 of the in-built media
player!

slightly peeved here because I've spent three days trying to get it to
install ;^(

all the best, DavyPaul, Cardiff UK.
(now, where did I put those Vista pre-requisites...)
The consensus seems to be that you CAN upgrade from MCE 2004 to MCE
2005, but it can be difficult, will cost 130 to 160USD and you actually
have to do a clean install if you want it to work.
 
Windows Media Player 11 won't work with Windows 98 or Windows 95 or Windows
3.1 either. There gets to be a time that to use the latest hardware and
software you have to buy the latest OS. Granted MCE 2004 is not that old
but you can't expect Microsoft to support every new product on every old
product. They have to put their effort where it will do the most good in
that regard.

Dale
 
Uhh Dale -- That's lame reasoning... given the fact he is running WMC not
DOS; and WinPlayer v11 is a primary multi-media output software for
Microsoft, albeit a slight tweaked/newer version.

Hell, MS should do better... and I think its not a question of MS trying to
make more money... I think they just $#%&ed up and forgot!
 
A big point of Windows Media Center is "Media Center". As you may already
know, a lot of the guts and inner workings of the Media Center application
are provided by Windows Media Player. The old Media Center 2004 application
is not compatible with the new Windows Media 11 updates. If you attempted
to or forced an install of WMP11 on an MCE 2004 system, you would break
Media Center and be left with just a weird version of normal XP.
 
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