Will I regret not getting Vista?

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If you have tried Vista and don't like it; why torture yourself more?
In the unlikely event that you wish to upgrade to Vista later, that is
always an option... if you get good enough hardware now.
 
Canuck57 said:
On Fri, 25 Apr 2008 13:10:44 -0700, Bill Yanaire wrote:
I do run Ubuntu, as of yesterday 8.04 and this is what I am typing it in
on. Not everyone is into Vista bloat and slowness. Runs nice for those
that don't want to re-purchase a second OS like XP to be double dipped.
And those that don't want to wait for a undetermined length of time for a
Vista fix.
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And no matter how much you polish a turd, it is still a turd.

But Frank is always hungry... someone said he likes SCAT anyway...
 
Sounds like you are frustrated. Maybe you should visit a farm and get some
Sheep Therapy
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You are getting more like Frank. You two been doing each other? I
heard Frank likes it doggy style. Either on the giving and receiving
end, doesn't matter to Frank, he'll either do or expect to hear sheep
sound effects while having sex. Here's Frank practicing his moves.

http://www.ltlf.co.uk/derby/man_with_sheep.jpg
 
Canuck57 said:
Only one hitch with that.

If he is using a Vista OEM edition, while he can install XP, XP will
overwrite the boot track. And the XP bootloader can't do Vista. So, it
sort of paints one in a corner. Yep, both on the disk but the bootloader
can only do XP.

But, he could Use Ubuntu's Grub bootloader to avoid a repurchase of Vista
full version. Lets assume it could look like:

Partition 1: OEM Recovery partition for Vista, usually about 9GB or so.
Partition 2: Vista OS
Partition 3: XP OS
Partition 4: Unbuntu w. Grub.

The key is to shrink up Partition2 to an appropriate size leaving room
for XP and Ubuntu. The steps might go:

1) backup your data (always a good idea)
2) Shrink partition2 by booting Vista and using diskpart.exe or the GUI
to shrink it leaving enough space for the planned partition 3 and 4.
3) Install XP using only the free space needed and leaving enough for
Ubuntu.
4) Then install Ubuntu in the remaining space.
5) On power up boot, select your OS

You can also with Grub, located in the Ubuntu /boot area alter which OS
is default and the delays.

I call it the triple boot, unlike the triple dip which needs a full
version of Vista, a full version of XP and the OEM Vista isn't needed.
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Why would anyone want to use something as stupid as Ubuntu? Ubuntu is for
retards.

If you want to be a retard, use Ubuntu
 
Canuck57 said:
Only one hitch with that.
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Only if you're a dumb, stupid and as incompetent as you are canadian
bullsh*t bacon.
If he is using a Vista OEM edition, while he can install XP, XP will
overwrite the boot track. And the XP bootloader can't do Vista. So, it
sort of paints one in a corner. Yep, both on the disk but the bootloader
can only do XP.
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Wrong doggy breadth! All he has to do is boot from the Vista DVD and run
repair and it will fix the Vista bootloader (BCD) and allow him to
select at boot up which OS he wants.
But, he could Use Ubuntu's Grub bootloader to avoid a repurchase of Vista
full version. Lets assume it could look like:

Partition 1: OEM Recovery partition for Vista, usually about 9GB or so.
Partition 2: Vista OS
Partition 3: XP OS
Partition 4: Unbuntu w. Grub.

The key is to shrink up Partition2 to an appropriate size leaving room
for XP and Ubuntu. The steps might go:

1) backup your data (always a good idea)
2) Shrink partition2 by booting Vista and using diskpart.exe or the GUI
to shrink it leaving enough space for the planned partition 3 and 4.
3) Install XP using only the free space needed and leaving enough for
Ubuntu.
4) Then install Ubuntu in the remaining space.
5) On power up boot, select your OS

You can also with Grub, located in the Ubuntu /boot area alter which OS
is default and the delays.

I call it the triple boot, unlike the triple dip which needs a full
version of Vista, a full version of XP and the OEM Vista isn't needed.
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You dumb fukk...that POS bootloader grub (real crap!) will destroy
Vista's bootloader and the only way to get it back is to manually delete
that POS grub.
My advice is to stay away from grub and linux all together. It's all
crap software anyway!
Frank
 
">>>>>>I wish to buy a nice new tablet laptop, but am delaying the purchase
I believe about 80% is Microsoft perhaps 85 but the fact that so many people
use it should tell you something. If there was something better people would
be using it. There are no perfect OSs (or anything else in life) so it's a
matter of how many defects something has. If it reaches a high level we
abandon it.




or if you want to get interact with anyone else in
 
C.B. said:
Rich T.


If you have had Vista on your PC for six months and you think it sucks
you probably have not yet learned how to configure it or understand it.
If, for you, Vista is unreliable, it is probably due to the manner in
which you have configured it and the third party software installed on it.
I could be wrong, so don't take it personally.
If you hate the interface you should go back to XP, buy a Mac or
choose an open source OS. If you think Vista is a lemon then it is
probably so because of your configurations, third party software and your
hardware. Again, I could be wrong, so don't take it personally.
I'm not a Vista fanboy or a Microsoft fanboy in any manner. I am not
defending either in any way. However, I researched Vista before purchasing
a new computer and I made sure the new computer had the appropriate
hardware to run it. I haven't had any problems.
I am careful about third party software installed on my computer and I
will not install any third party software that is not totally compatible
with Vista. I don't rely on the third party vendors' claims that their
product is Vista compatible because more times than not these vendors are
not being truthful.
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That's very true which is why I advised people to keep what came with their
PC when they bought it and don't make any changes for awhile. If it came
with Norton 360 just use it even if you normally don't use it because the
manufacturer knows it works with Vista.


I will first test the software in a virtual environment
or in a partition allocated for such testing. I haven't had any problems
with third party software.
I don't try to "tweak" Vista with third party software to make it
perform more like XP and I'm not saying that you do. As a matter of fact I
think Vista is far superior to XP and just as fast. It is also much more
secure. Some of these security improvements are what cause many people to
either dislike Vista or have problems trying to do things they could do on
XP but cannot do on Vista. I decided to move forward with Vista. I still
have three systems with XP installed but I personally like Vista better.
Personal choice, that's all.
Yes, I think Vista is a bloated OS and needs to be simplified and I
think Microsoft should have listened more to their own developers and the
beta testers. I think Microsoft could do much more to improve Vista and
make it easier to use. There are good points about Vista and there are bad
points. Most of Vista's problems are caused by Microsoft's desire to use
an abundance of code from several different operating systems and tie them
all together to work properly without problems. That's not going to
happen.
I am not trying to start any arguments with you or anyone else. You
should use the OS you prefer. If you don't want to go back to XP you can
switch to a Linux based OS, which includes OS X. What matters is what
makes you happy and what you feel comfortable with.
I don't get BSODs. I don't get Windows Explorer crashes or Internet
Explorer crashes.
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I do sometimes with IE.


Sure, I have minor problems with this and with that, which
 
Rich said:
I wish to buy a nice new tablet laptop, but am delaying the purchase
because I am unsure whether to get XP or Vista. I have had Vista on my
PC for six months and it really sucks - not only is it unreliable but I
just hate the whole condescending, fussy, annoying interface. From what
I know about Vista in its current form it is a total lemon and I should
order my new laptop with XP.

But might I later regret the decision? Anybody know what future plans
are for Vista? Is Microsoft going to make it just a bit more pleasant to
use, fix all the bugs and bring in some new features?
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Yes, Microsoft will make Vista much more pleasant to use, there will be
not a single bug, and there will be more new features than anyone could
possibly anticipate.

Sorry, couldn't resist...

While Vista has been a positive experience for me, it seems like your
question is asked and answered.

I haven't read every reply to your original post, but would be
interested in seeing a response that actually spoke to Vista vs. XP on a
-tablet- box. Don't have any tablets here, so have no clue if Vista is a
better choice on tablets. It runs fine on three Dells and one Mac here.

Lang
 
Canuck57 said:
I do run Ubuntu, as of yesterday 8.04 and this is what I am typing it in
on. Not everyone is into Vista bloat and slowness. Runs nice for those
that don't want to re-purchase a second OS like XP to be double dipped.
And those that don't want to wait for a undetermined length of time for a
Vista fix.
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I like Linux - but the new Ubuntu managed to freeze when I entered the
incorrect WEP key on my wireless. Sorry, but even Vista can manage that. It
also won't suspend. I'm very dissapointed (lack of sound card support too).
Been using Linux since Red Hat 5, and I have come to the conclusion that
it's really a server OS, or a development OS, not for entertainment or
laptops.

Marc
http://sitdown.org.uk
 
Ignore the press/XP fanboys.
If you were to lash an XP logo in Vista, turn off user account control, put
the classic theme on and disable the sidebar, you'd never know it was Vista.
The only reason so keep XP is if you have acient hardware.

Marc
 
Mike Hall - MVP said:
You have answered your own question. You do not like Vista, but like XP.
So get an XP tablet.. easy, eh..
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When I installed Vista on my 1GB RAM, 3Ghz Celeron with Nvidia 6200 graphics
card, it crawled. I Hated it.
But when I got my new laptop with 2GB RAM, 2.1 Ghz Core 2 Duo and Nvidia
8600 graphics, it ran perfectly.

So past experience isn't always a good judgment. Generally if you buy a
"decent" PC from a good manufacture (HP, Dell etc) they will have tested all
the hardware to make sure it all works. By "decent" I mean not a bargain
basement one.
So I would get Vista, without any doubts.

Marc
 
Marc said:
When I installed Vista on my 1GB RAM, 3Ghz Celeron with Nvidia 6200
graphics card, it crawled. I Hated it.
But when I got my new laptop with 2GB RAM, 2.1 Ghz Core 2 Duo and Nvidia
8600 graphics, it ran perfectly.

So past experience isn't always a good judgment. Generally if you buy a
"decent" PC from a good manufacture (HP, Dell etc) they will have tested
all the hardware to make sure it all works. By "decent" I mean not a
bargain basement one.
So I would get Vista, without any doubts.

Marc
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I would too, but the OP has not had good experiences in the past and has
appeared to favor XP and Linux..

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2008 is Mac Only. It doesn't even run on Vista!
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A quick search on ms.com showed only results for O2K8 for Mac, but I wasn't
sure.

Is it just me, or should s/w vendors slow down on the use of the year in
the name for their products ?

Sometimes just a version number is better.
 
Well I've just discovered the killer reason not to get Vista on my tablet.
Vista is not compatible with the software that I will be using on the tablet
(Jeppesen flight planning software). So I've ordered with XP.
 
Rich T said:
Well I've just discovered the killer reason not to get Vista on my tablet.
Vista is not compatible with the software that I will be using on the
tablet (Jeppesen flight planning software). So I've ordered with XP.
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Smart move..

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Mike's Window - My Blog..
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DanS said:
A quick search on ms.com showed only results for O2K8 for Mac, but I
wasn't
sure.

Is it just me, or should s/w vendors slow down on the use of the year in
the name for their products ?

Sometimes just a version number is better.
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I think a year spurs the developers/product managers on to getting a new
product out... look at Windows 95... 2000 - every two years more or less,
then XP - it sounded new for ages :) Although Office 2003 lasted 4 years...
so maybe that logic is false.

M
 
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