Why you should never buy Symantec / Norton products

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What I do find dubious are the claims that Symantec misses so many
viruses that other products catch.

Why would that be so dubious? When I wrote earlier that Avast! found dozens
of viruses and a few trojans, what I meant was that it found dozens of
specific kinds of viruses and a few specific kinds of trojans, also. Total
number of files infected was in the hundreds. The latest, fully updated,
version of Norton Internet Security 2006 never informed the user in any
manner that the system was infected. Thus, how would you KNOW what viruses
Symantec missed, unless you thought to scan the system with something
se? -Dave
 
Beats me. I use a Mac and a hardware firewall. Problem solved. No need
to waste my computer's processing cycles to filter out Windows malware.

Yeah, a clean computer with no software available is obviously much better
than a useful computer that happens to be infected because the "user" made
an unwise software choice. -Dave
 
Yeah. It's crazy. If you managed to uninstall Norton, you're doing
better than I could. The last system I looked at, I basically told
the person, I can't get this off, and it is the problem, so the only
solution I know is to back up your data so I can purge your drive and
start over. She decided to muddle through.

Charlie
I had Norton Internet Suite on my computer. It was installed when I
got it. I upgraded to 2005 when the first subscription ran out. With
that the computer ran progressively slower. When that subscription ran
out I changed to Zonealarm Internet Suite. Just as effective and a lot
less of a drag on the computer. I can now do something else when the
virus scan runs.

I did not have much trouble uninstalling Norton. I had the program
that I downloaded from Symantec to remove Norton but did not need it.

Much happier with Zonealarm

DJT
 
Geoff said:
Interesting how no one posts any of the viruses missed by NAV . . .

-g

on the machines I have seen, the ones it missed, are the ones AVG caught and
eliminated..........
 
no you wouldn't....you would be admitting to ' paying ' for a product that
is huge on resources and is shoddy at detecting viruses(unless you count
'crashing the system' to prevent virus propagation a 'feature' ). Also
supporting its usage in your business environment, yikes, Not many would do
that.

You don't know me, Mr. Twit. Unlike you, integrity is important to me.
That's why I find this smear campaign to be so offensive.

People whining because they didn't read the instructions for running
software are lame.

Sy
 
Interesting how no one posts any of the viruses missed by NAV . . .

-g

Excellent point. They won't post a list of what Symantec missed
because Symantec didn't miss anything.

Sy
 
Seymour Bigby-Heinz said:
We use a variety because no single AV product catches everything.
Symantec is among the few that detects the most problems accurately.

Sy

You ask for evidence, where is yours? Which problems? What viruses? How
is it better? Use the IQ you value so highly.

On a anti-virus program "most" does not cut it. Especially when there are
FREE (read, FREE) programs that do a better job. Why am going to pay 50
dollars a year for Norton when someone gives me something that works better
for free, and I CAN UNINSTALL IT.
 
Seymour Bigby-Heinz said:
Excellent point. They won't post a list of what Symantec missed
because Symantec didn't miss anything.

Sy

I believe in an earlier message you stated someone was "brain-washed."
Since you are in the minority, I think it is up to you to prove you are
right, and you are not the one being brainwashed. You are the only one
spouting pro-Norton propaganda here.
 
Don said:
I had a similar experience, only I could never get Norton completely
uninstalled, I had to manually delete some of the files and there are still
some registry entries it left behind. Peter Norton's tools used to be
considered the pinnacle of PC diagnostic and utility tools. He should sue
Symantic for defamation of character.

Chalk it up to another great company turned to shit, or exists in name
only
(Bell and Howell, Compaq, Packard Bell (do they even exist anymore?!),
Epson.....)
 
Seymour Bigby-Heinz said:
Sounds like the typical smear campaign. Which one of the competing
product vendors are you working for?

Sy

How long have you worked for Norton?

'The typical "XXX" owner, it is better because I have always used it.
However, I have tried nothing else because it is the best.'
 
Seymour Bigby-Heinz said:
People whining because they didn't read the instructions for running
software are lame.

Install program, update program, and let it run. All the "instructions" one
needs. If it does not work after that. IT IS FAULTY!!!
 
No, I'm here too, and I like Norton, especially Norton System Works! :-)

Ray
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Beats me. I use a Mac and a hardware firewall. Problem solved. No need
to waste my computer's processing cycles to filter out Windows malware.

Yeah, a clean computer with no software available is obviously much better
than a useful computer that happens to be infected because the "user" made
an unwise software choice. -Dave[/QUOTE]

True, but my Mac is loaded with software, but no antivirus stuff. Hell,
The software I use most was pre-installed by Apple on the computer right
out of the box, and I use my Mac every day.
 
JAD said:
what do you do about mac malware? .

Nothing. I have never encountered any malware and I avoid such
situations by simply not opening up unexpected email attachments, web
site references, etc. without confirming what they are first. In
addition, malware on the Mac is very uncommon, so its not a big deal and
the two or three pieces of Mac malware that were found out in the wild
didn't do much, if any harm. I also back up my Mac regularly.
 
I had Norton Internet Suite on my computer. It was installed when I
got it. I upgraded to 2005 when the first subscription ran out. With
that the computer ran progressively slower. When that subscription ran
out I changed to Zonealarm Internet Suite. Just as effective and a lot
less of a drag on the computer. I can now do something else when the
virus scan runs.

I did not have much trouble uninstalling Norton. I had the program
that I downloaded from Symantec to remove Norton but did not need it.

Much happier with Zonealarm

DJT

That is the main beef I have with Norton/Symantec. Their suites just hog too
many resources. If you uninstalled NIS with the uninstaller, I doubt you
uninstalled all the registry entries left behind unless you did them
manually or ran Symclean. Even Symclean leaves some behind but removes most.
Partition Magic is the only product I use from Symantec anymore.

Ed
 
Packard Bell (do they even exist anymore?!), Epson.....)

Packard Bell, the computer brand, was never great, they were always
about the bottom of the barrel, but at least they were cheap. But no,
they don't exist any more. They were bought up in the early-to-mid '90s
but NEC, which then itself went mostly out of the PC business.
 
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