Why should so much tweaking be necessary?

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This sounds like an early version of the safety provision that the car has
to be in Park or Neutral before the engine will start. That's pretty common
now, but if a note to this effect was simply buried in the fine print of a
1000 shop page manual (not included) for one of the first cars to have that
precaution, then the Rambler folk (Dodge, wasn't it?) were not doing their
job of highlighting major changes for the purchaser. Didn't he get a test
drive before purchase? What about the dealer/seller who failed to mention
this?

If it was not a safety feature to force you to have the car in park/neutral,
i.e. if they simply made you put the ignition key in then press a button to
start rather than turn the key like I presume most cars did at the time, it
was a stupid feature and deserved to follow the passenger pigeon into
oblivion, which it seems to have done.

I and Lois G are not complaining about genuine new technology (e.g. an
interlock to prevent your grandfather starting the Rambler and immediately
running your childhood self over because it was in reverse). We are
complaining about capricious twiddling with the user interfaces for the same
technology, e.g. if the Rambler were done that way just to be cool.

After some years of such capricious twiddling, auto makers have settled down
to doing most major functions in two or three ways (e.g. lights are on a
control onthe steeering column, or, less and less commonly, a pull switch on
the dash) and many in just one. Some rental agencies put a card summarizing
these differences in their cars, and it's not big. I can jump in pretty
much any standard sedan at the rental agency, and in two or three minutes
familiarize myself with the needed controls to get to the hotel at 2 in the
morning.

Of course operating systems are more complex (in terms of user interface)
than automobiles. But this should be an argument against, not an excuse
for, twiddling just 'cause.
 
ggull said:
This sounds like an early version of the safety provision that the car
has
to be in Park or Neutral before the engine will start. That's pretty
common
now, but if a note to this effect was simply buried in the fine print
of a
1000 shop page manual (not included) for one of the first cars to have
that
precaution, then the Rambler folk (Dodge, wasn't it?) were not doing
their
job of highlighting major changes for the purchaser. Didn't he get a
test
drive before purchase? What about the dealer/seller who failed to
mention
this?

If it was not a safety feature to force you to have the car in
park/neutral,
i.e. if they simply made you put the ignition key in then press a
button to
start rather than turn the key like I presume most cars did at the
time, it
was a stupid feature and deserved to follow the passenger pigeon into
oblivion, which it seems to have done.

I and Lois G are not complaining about genuine new technology (e.g. an
interlock to prevent your grandfather starting the Rambler and
immediately
running your childhood self over because it was in reverse). We are
complaining about capricious twiddling with the user interfaces for
the same
technology, e.g. if the Rambler were done that way just to be cool.

After some years of such capricious twiddling, auto makers have
settled down
to doing most major functions in two or three ways (e.g. lights are on
a
control onthe steeering column, or, less and less commonly, a pull
switch on
the dash) and many in just one. Some rental agencies put a card
summarizing
these differences in their cars, and it's not big. I can jump in
pretty
much any standard sedan at the rental agency, and in two or three
minutes
familiarize myself with the needed controls to get to the hotel at 2
in the
morning.

Of course operating systems are more complex (in terms of user
interface)
than automobiles. But this should be an argument against, not an
excuse
for, twiddling just 'cause.


And over how many years has it taken for the auto makers to "settle
down" into a standard with which you finally trained yourself to be
accustomed? And how long do operating systems, especially "toy" or
end-user oriented operating systems, like Windows, get to "settle down"?
So I take it you'll be complaining to the car makers when they change a
whole bunch of stuff in the new all-electric cars, too, until whatever
period you deem is sufficient for them to "settle down" (but mostly for
you to train).

If anything, computers should be teaching you to adapt. You don't want
to adapt. Adapting takes work and time. Computers are not appliances.
Hardware and software for computers is not like hardware for plumbing
where once you figure out how to cut, clean, and solder or glue (for
plastic) then you have very little to learn thereafter because the
technology doesn't change. Part of the *technology* of computers is
SOFTware.

Also, for end-user oriented operating systems, especially those geared
to *consumers* rather than enthusiasts or administrators willing to
adapt and train, they need some continued marketability and
profitability. Once they become staid, sales drop. Look at VCRs. Once
they peak at what functionality they provided then eventually the market
saturates (since only some of the population is going to get a VCR and
eventually almost all of those have a VCR). So how do they sell more
VCRs when they all must provide the same basic functionality for
compatibility? Add features! An OS, or any product, that doesn't
sustain marketability will die, and then you'll complain that it
disappeared when it became cheap (to get and to learn). Microsoft is
into COMMERCIALware. That's the market type they choose to get involved
in. If you want to get into open-sourced and cheap operating systems
that YOU can tailor the way you want to run (and keep them tailored that
way) then go right ahead. Distributing public or open software is how
THOSE authors choose to distribute their product. However, I really
doubt Linux or other open-source operating systems are really
deliberately stagnating themselves for lazy users.

How long are "personal" operating systems allowed to mature? How long
before they are no longer allowed to adopt from mainframes? How long
before no one wants any new *major* features? How long did it take for
you to grow up until you no longer needed any training (in other
attributes of your life than computers) so you could quiesce into being
lazy, comfortable, stagnant, and happy?

It's impossible to analyze an industry, especially computers, when you
view it through a tiny pinhole in the wall. You see your use of your
computer, not what is happening across the entire industry of computers
(and I only see a tiny part). I've been an alpha test for over a decade
in software and a technician on them for a decade before that. Yeah,
I'm used to change because that is the nature of the computer industry.
It isn't ditch digging whose technology hasn't changed much in
centuries. If you get involved in an industry whose nature is change
and continual evolution then learn to adapt. I'm sure doctors also have
to keep up to date and have to keep learning new stuff and techniques;
otherwise, we'd still be using leeches, hacking off wounded legs, and
seeing Joan Rivers for how she really would look.

There used to be LOTS of backyard mechanics working on their cars to fix
and customize them. That's waned. Why? Because it is a lot harder to
work on engines, pollution systems, and all the subsystems within a car
because they've become a lot more complicated. You used to just need a
timing light, a new set of spark plugs and gap tool, and maybe a new
distributor rotor to time your car. Not anymore. It now takes a lot
more learning to maintain your car yourself, so the folks that chose to
stagnate based on the old technology gave up on maintaining their cars,
and those too lazy or too busy for other life choices relinquish that
chore to someone else. I don't see you announcing your willingness to
let a professional handle your wants for tweaking and maintaining and
repairing your computer, yet you probably take your car to a shop to
replace the oil, set timing, replace the shocks, align the wheels, and
fix the body damage. Your time is too valuable to waste doing that
stuff so you exchange your time (in the form of money) to have someone
else do it and do it right. However, most computer users are peculiar
consumers in believing they have the mental wherewithal to be computer
experts (picture the car mechanic all greased up who strolls into the
surgery room to start replacing a heart just because he knows how to use
a knife). Just because a computer can be put into your hands doesn't
mean it should. I can put a shotgun into the hands of a toddler (which
isn't necessarily measured by age), and the same for a computer. You're
the consumer that wants computers to stabilize so they can be considered
appliances, yet do you actually go repairing your dishwasher, fridge, or
television when it breaks or even modify them to tweak them how you want
them behave on any particular day? If you don't want to learn and
continually train on the use of computers to play your game, just get a
GameBoy with its fixed features and interface. That GameBoy will work
the same way until the day you trash it. There are intelligent
typewriters with limited functionality and fixed interface that will let
you do word processing. There are appliances available if all you want
is a fix feature set and unchanging user interface rather than a
GENERAL-purpose computer.

If you don't want to learn a new OS or a new application then don't get
that new OS or new application. It is likely you don't _need_ the new
stuff but rather you _want_ the new stuff (the same reason most
consumers buy new cars). I still have an old Intel 486 running Windows
95 and some ancient version of WordPerfect on it that I still use. It
doesn't boot quick but that's not a problem because it's left powered on
all the time. The cursor doesn't move any slower when typing in a
document on that old machine compared to my new one and there is little
difference in paging speed for the size documents that I write at home.
There is no real need for the latest hardware and software to perform
the task, but most consumers don't base their purchasing decisions based
on just the requirements of the task.

Burn and learn. Learn or stagnate. Stagnate and die. If tomorrow is
just like today, you're dead. ;-)
 
ggull said:
Vanguard said:
I've been an alpha test[er, sic] for over a decade
in software and a technician on them for a decade before that.

This explains a lot :-)


And a car mechanic also shakes his head at the idiot who can fork over
the money to buy a car and then tries with little or no training to go
replace the valve lifters who complains that doing the job isn't like
what it used to be or what they read in some Chilton's book.

And the body mechanic shakes his head when he sees his untrained friend
go buy some bondo and slap it on their car when trying to repair a
fender falling apart from rust.

And the turbo knowledgeable mechanic that shakes his head because some
joker can buy a turbo kit and tries to install it at home but doesn't
bother to remove the header when tapping a hole to install the
temperature sensor so all the filings that go inside then get sucked up
and destroy the turbo.

And so on. However, computers ARE something that you can train yourself
on *IF* you have the initiative to do so. Regardless that I started
before you in computers, without initiative then you're always going to
be complaining you don't know enough. You've very clearly indicated
that you don't have initiative. We're supposed to side with the
unlearned and the don't-want-to-learn that computers should be designed
to the lowest common denominator? Well, they wouldn't be
general-purpose computers anymore, would they? They'd be calculators
again, and smart typewriters, and photocopiers, and fax machines, and
some other fixed-feature appliance.

Some people just should not get involved with computers. If frustration
is not something you can handle, don't get a computer. It's ridiculous
that my step-mother, who only wants to do e-mail and is adamant in not
learning anything more, wasted all that money and desk space on a highly
overpriced solution: a personal computer. She doesn't want to learn
Windows, logging in, tweaking or customizing, updating, or any other
software than just the e-mail program because that is ALL she wants that
general-purpose computer to do. That was the wrong tool for the task.
 
How do you know that a program exists? Suggest you go into Windows
Explorer, sort to alphabetical order and try (double click) each one of the
files described in 'type' as 'application'. Some may not work.

Regards.

Bill Ridgeway
 
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