Why is the VISTA upgrade Hamstrung? Please read and reply Microso

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Has the upgrade code been released to manufacturing? Are the DVDs being
produced? Maybe, but we don't this for sure. At present all we know is the
RTM version has been sent to OEM manufacturers and the VL version is
available. I agree that it doesn't hurt to lobby for a change or try to find
out how it will work but the incessant posting of rants about it doesn't do
any good. It's almost as bad as all the previous whining about how come so
and so can get the latest beta build and I can't :-)
 
In this case, folks are trying to figure out how much to budget for Vista.
It time to do that. I think comparing this discussion to the ones about
"how come so and so can get the latest beta build and I can't" is not a fair
comparison.
 
You're probably right about this particular thread. Many of the other
threads on the same subject are nothing more than rants. I got tired of
reading them and just happened to hit my "I'm sick of this" point when I saw
this thread :-)

To anyone thinking about purchasing Vista I say this: Don't be the first in
line to buy it unless you are prepared to take a chance that whatever
version you buy suits your needs. Wait at least a month or two, follow these
newsgroups, and other online forums, and see what the consensus is. This is
being a prudent consumer. Don't let your lust for the newest thing blind you
and make a decision you will regret later. We've all been waiting several
years for Vista. A few more months will help you make a much better
decision.
 
Roger that, Jon. Don't disagree in the least. I guess the point of my
question, for good or ill, was, if I upgrade using a flavor that supports
"Complete PC Backup Restore" then I am going to expect, and rightly so imho,
that my DVD is bootable, whether I upgrade or not, so that I can
repair/restore from the bootable DVD.

As to feeling "special"... I'd be satisfied feeling "normal" and these terms
for upgrading certainly do not seem "normal" to me. Some beancounter threw
this up against the wall and it stuck, apparently. One would hope that
someone with some sense will take a look at this and go "no, no, no, no,
no... ain't right."

Lang
 
Darrel Gortner answered that a few hours ago. Yes. You will be able to
boot a retail Upgrade Edition dvd and can run all of the tools. It is the
volume license upgrade dvd's that are not bootable. It appears that the
retail Upgrade Edition dvd's are the same as the full edition ones except
for Setup.exe.
 
Colin,

Well, that's certainly "good" news. I would've been quite surprised had they
done it differently. I guess the rumors will continue to fly until the
retail pkg hits the shelves and rumors are proven true or invalid.

Lang
 
Agreed. I am still curious about how Win 2000 can get upgraded with a clean
installation of Vista from the Win 2000 desktop using an Upgrade Edition.
Win 2000, like XP x64, qualifies for upgrade but requires a clean
installation to do it. Since I have no intention of buying any upgrade
editions to experiment with, I'd like to make sure I at least know how it
works in order to help out in the ng's.
 
Hmm... good question. I, too, have no intention of touching an upgrade
pkg... though were I flush with cash I might get one just to have one, but
with two kids off to college, flush with cash I ain't. (Roll the violins...)
;-)

Lang
 
I think I know what will happen now. When you start Vista Upgrade Setup on
the Win2k desktop Upgrade will be greyed out and you simply assent to Custom
installation. The OS that installs Vista is WinPE anyway, so who cares what
OS you started it with. The one thing that will not be available will be
the partition chooser, just like it wouldn't be if you had been able to
choose the Upgrade option. Setup knows it is an "upgrade" (from the product
key) and therefore knows that the target is the current active partition. I
am doing a little guessing here, but I'll bet it goes something like that.
 
Time'll tell, right?

Lang

Colin Barnhorst said:
I think I know what will happen now. When you start Vista Upgrade Setup on
the Win2k desktop Upgrade will be greyed out and you simply assent to
Custom installation. The OS that installs Vista is WinPE anyway, so who
cares what OS you started it with. The one thing that will not be
available will be the partition chooser, just like it wouldn't be if you
had been able to choose the Upgrade option. Setup knows it is an "upgrade"
(from the product key) and therefore knows that the target is the current
active partition. I am doing a little guessing here, but I'll bet it goes
something like that.
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