Whoa!!!>>>Microsoft shutters Windows private folders

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Thanks for that. Uploading now to alt.binaries.freeware marked "ATTN:
Al Klein, as requested"

Last post I see is from July 14. I'll just have to wait until it
propogates (if it does).
 
Yes but they do not own YOU.

Be careful, lots of companies are trying to figure out on
how to electronically tag people with microchips.
The excuse they give are for security safety and practical matters.
It has already started. They have done it. But once you are tagged you can
be traced with the proper technology any at any time.

I see this as a big blow to human decency, and freedom. If they want robots,
let them make robots!
 
Al said:
If it's your own personal computer, fine, but if it's the company's
computer, they're legally and morally entitled to see anything stored
on it - they own the computer and ALL data on it.

Would that include a list of informants for your police environment? You
want the whole force to know you are a snithch for Lt. Joe Friday?

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Let the unseen day be. Today is more than enough.

___Sador the carpenter to Turin
Tolkien, The Unfinished Tales

Ellis_Jay
 
Al Klein said:
They're paying for your every move. The moves they don't pay for they
don't get to monitor.

but you are offering your services to the company .. it's two way in my
book. why can't companies come to realise this. they would get more out of
their employees this way. but then, their attitude is ... well if you dont
like it then there is always someone else out there who we can EXPLOIT! ...
happening more and more these days!!!!!!!
 
John said:
"burnr" <none> wrote in message news:[email protected]...

I have my own work contact lists, procedures, etc, stored as text files on my
work PC, and I wouldn't want anyone else at work to make use of it while I'm
away. Thus, such encryption would be great for me for my job security because
it prevents others benefitting from my own personal notes.

spot on John! there are situations that arise where employees need to use
encryption for LEGITIMATE purposes!
 
Al Klein said:
news:[email protected]...


If it's your own personal computer, fine, but if it's the company's
computer, they're legally and morally entitled to see anything stored
on it - they own the computer and ALL data on it.

of course they do even if it's not in their interests!
 
...if I need to encrypt something at
*work* then *work* will provide the software.

Exactly, but not overly helpful for freeloaders who want to do their
own stuff, when they should instead be doing what they are paid
to do.
 
Morten Skarstad said:
What does one thing have to do with the other? If your drive crashes and you don't have a backup, your data is lost regardless if
it is encrypted or not.

Excellent point! Wouldn't want Ivan to be our IT Tech! :)
 
Hi Al,

Thanks for that. Uploading now to alt.binaries.freeware marked "ATTN:
Al Klein, as requested"

HTH

oh, I saw that. Wondered what it was <G>
already had it anyway
 
of course they do even if it's not in their interests!

Companies did, and some still do, treat PC's as another perk.
But employers do have serious problem: they could be liable for
allowing their employees to use co's equipment on co's time for
"illegal"[*] activity. The "ambulace chasers" are more than
happy go after the "deepest pocket."

[*] particularly those w/ monetary compensations

J
 
John said:
Excellent point! Wouldn't want Ivan to be our IT Tech! :)

In most cases it is still there. It come down to how important the data
is, and how the much the company is willing to spend to recover it.
Stan
 
Al Klein leapt out of the bath and screamed "EUREKA!" before typing in
alt.comp.freeware:
Last post I see is from July 14. I'll just have to wait until it
propogates (if it does).

OK, well, I can see it today on Astraweb and Octanews. LMK if it
doesn't turn up and I can always email it to you etc.

HTH
 
Stan Weiss skrev:
In most cases it is still there. It come down to how important the data
is, and how the much the company is willing to spend to recover it.

If you still have the key it can still be decrypted. Of course, if your
one and only key got lost in the crash but the encrypted data is still
readable you're in for a world of hurt.

But if your data is valuable it should be backed up either way, no
matter if it is encrypted on your computer or not. And if it is very
sensitive you should probably encrypt the data on your computer _and_ on
your backup copies! Not protecting sensitive data because it's harder to
get to it if you screw up is not a solution to anything.
 
but you are offering your services to the company

Only certain services, and in exchange for certain payment. Not
whatever services I feel like giving them in exchange for whatever I
want to take from them, which seems to be the prevalent attitude among
a lot of "workers".
.. it's two way in my book. why can't companies come to realise this.

They do. Part of *MY* agreement with my company is that I have
unlimited use of the internet. It's in their best interest that I do,
because I frequently need information from some site or other.
However, if my job were to count widgets, I'd have no reason (that
mattered to the company) to store my friends' phone numbers on the
computer I used in their office. And certainly no reason to encrypt
anything on that computer.
their employees this way. but then, their attitude is ... well if you dont
like it then there is always someone else out there who we can EXPLOIT!

Only if you define "exploit" as "they won't let me do whatever I
want".
 
spot on John! there are situations that arise where employees need to use
encryption for LEGITIMATE purposes!

Why would you be putting personal data on your employer's computer?
Unless he had already agreed to it (in which case the entire
discussion is moot), that's misappropriation of HIS property.
 
of course they do even if it's not in their interests!

It's not up to you to decide what's in their best interests when it
comes to their property, though - it's up to them. Do you want
someone telling you what you can look at on YOUR computer?

It's THEIR computer, not yours.
 
Companies did, and some still do, treat PC's as another perk.
But employers do have serious problem: they could be liable for
allowing their employees to use co's equipment on co's time for
"illegal"[*] activity. The "ambulace chasers" are more than
happy go after the "deepest pocket."
[*] particularly those w/ monetary compensations

Even more simply - while you're being paid to do the employer's work,
you're doing something personal. That's stealing. It's the same as a
no-show job, just on a smaller scale.
 
And I still haven't seen it there. Maybe my ISP is blocking large
binary posts?
or maybe they just have sucky retention & propagation like my ISP

It was just posted to
alt.binaries.warez.ibm-pc
 
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