Who is still getting pop-unders with Firefox?

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(e-mail address removed) (One's Too Many) wrote in
Brand new fresh install of Windows XP, brand new fresh install of
Firefox, very first visit to Drudgereport.com and instant tickle
pop-under ad :-(
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Anyone who visits drudgereport.com *deserves* pop-unders, pop-ups, and
a good pop upside the head.
 
["One's Too Many"; Tue, 26 Oct 2004 17:29:36 GMT]
Hate to be the bringer of bad news, but even as good as Firefox is at
resisting pop-ups and pop-unders... it *still* is vulnerable to them
:-/
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I wonder why _I_ get none.
 
_One's Too Many_, martedì 26/ott/2004:
Brand new fresh install of Windows XP, brand new fresh install of
Firefox, very first visit to Drudgereport.com and instant tickle
pop-under ad :-(

Hate to be the bringer of bad news, but even as good as Firefox is at
resisting pop-ups and pop-unders... it *still* is vulnerable to them
:-/
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Been there with Firefox and got no popunder, nor popup, nor advice about
blocked pops.
 
(e-mail address removed) (One's Too Many) wrote in
Brand new fresh install of Windows XP, brand new fresh
install of Firefox, very first visit to Drudgereport.com
and instant tickle pop-under ad :-(

Hate to be the bringer of bad news, but even as good as
Firefox is at resisting pop-ups and pop-unders... it
*still* is vulnerable to them
:-/
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None here ...

J
 
(e-mail address removed) (One's Too Many) wrote in


Anyone who visits drudgereport.com *deserves* pop-unders, pop-ups, and
a good pop upside the head.
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It sounds like you would agree with Charlie Brooker, a regular columnist
of The Guardian newspaper in England, who recently stated in a column:
"John Wilkes Booth, Lee Harvey Oswald, John Hinckley Jr - where are you now
that we need you?"
 
One's Too Many said
Brand new fresh install of Windows XP, brand new fresh install of
Firefox, very first visit to Drudgereport.com and instant tickle
pop-under ad :-(

Hate to be the bringer of bad news, but even as good as Firefox is at
resisting pop-ups and pop-unders... it *still* is vulnerable to them
:-/
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This is no troll (from One's Too Many). It's real. I get them too. I've
seen a few other posts as well.

Turn off JavaScript and see if it fixes your problem OTM.

Are you running any extensions. I'm running xKiosk 0.6 and SwitchProxy
tool 1.3. Perhaps we share some wierd combination of FF and something
else?

Here's some links:
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?t=144741
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=878666#878666
 
One's Too Many said:
Brand new fresh install of Windows XP, brand new fresh install of
Firefox, very first visit to Drudgereport.com and instant tickle
pop-under ad :-(

Hate to be the bringer of bad news, but even as good as Firefox is at
resisting pop-ups and pop-unders... it *still* is vulnerable to them
:-/
Click to expand...


No pop ups with Firefox, even at the annoying Drugde site where the page
refreshes every minute. BUT - last week, my sister got a trojan that
hijacked the start page in both IE *and* Firefox. So the battle has begun.
They know many have swithed to Firefox and have started hacking the code
there too..

Bob
 
Re: Pop-unders showing up underneath some websites
such as Drudge.

Suggestion: It could be that the popunder is a non-action
still life photo in .SWF format. Tricky. The answer seems
to be an anti-Ad client or firewall that permits the user
to blacklist specific shotgun artists like www.tickle.com/*
(include the asterisk). Commercial products like
AdsGone does so, and it works. No more pop-unders once I
nail the first offensive agency.

On other(in-thread) related mentions: I have not found
any hijacking of the Firefox browser itself ... yet.
 
No pop ups with Firefox, even at the annoying Drugde site
where the page refreshes every minute. BUT - last week, my
sister got a trojan that hijacked the start page in both IE
*and* Firefox. So the battle has begun. They know many
have swithed to Firefox and have started hacking the code
there too..

Bob
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Any more info re what was the trojan and/or how it hijacked FX
start page?

J
 
Im sorry to say that I get the same.. I found this discussion after
trying to find out how to snuff out the tickle pop-unders that I get
from time to time. Ten minutes ago it happened from Drudge.

I have today's FF 1.0RC1, and it also happened on 1.0PR as well.

Firefox has kept me 99% popup free and 100% spyware free. We're even
close to deploying it in our large corp offices where spyware claims
three pc's a day - 80% of our manhours go to spyware cleaning!

Unfortunately, as FF becomes more and more mainstream, people will
find ways around it. However, the amazing members of this community
will prevail IMO.
 
L. Ivan said
Im sorry to say that I get the same.. I found this discussion after
trying to find out how to snuff out the tickle pop-unders that I get
from time to time. Ten minutes ago it happened from Drudge.
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As I've stated earlier. It's a Javascript popup. If we turn off
Javascript the popups are gone! ;-)

Until this is fixed in a "mainstream" method, I'm using Prefbar to make
Javascript easy to switch off/on.

http://prefbar.mozdev.org/#install

hth
 
Homer.Simpson said:
L. Ivan said




As I've stated earlier. It's a Javascript popup. If we turn off
Javascript the popups are gone! ;-)
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Hmm I thought almost all normal popups are caused by javascript? Sure
turning them off will kill almost all but.....
 
To "Bruce the Shark",

No I am not trolling... just honestly reporting what I'm finding. And
the Tickle pop-unders are not the only thing getting past Firefox.
Just yesterday, on another brand new, freshly installed Windows XP SP1
(not SP2) machine with a fresh install of Firefox 1.0RC1, I got a
University of Phoenix pop-under ad from Drudge.

Augh!

I closed it before taking any time to try to examine it. I wished I'd
read this thread again before that, after now seeing the suggestion
that it might be a .SWF sneaking past Firefox's defenses. I'll be on
the lookout for this kind of tactic, and see if I can try to nab the
source html code of the page that spawns the pop-under.
 
Hmm I thought almost all normal popups are caused by javascript? Sure
turning them off will kill almost all but.....
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Mozilla probably blocks the javascript window.open. i haven't tested it,
so i don't know. the other thing to do is create a huge hosts
file with all the common advertisers in it. it will bring up
blank areas on the page, instead of sucking bandwidth with ad
images. probably would help surfing on dialup.

michael
 
Mozilla probably blocks the javascript window.open. i haven't tested it,
so i don't know. the other thing to do is create a huge hosts
file with all the common advertisers in it. it will bring up
blank areas on the page, instead of sucking bandwidth with ad
images. probably would help surfing on dialup.

michael
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here it is:
http://www.remember.mine.nu/

i don't know how much legit traffic will get blackholed though.

michael
 
It's more complicated than that, since most popup blockers have to tell
the difference between a requested popup initiated by the user and a
unrequested one, so normally there is a complicated popup allow/disallow
logic involved. Some sites attempt to study what this logic is, and
evade it. And there are a lot of ways to use javascript to cause popups
beyond just window.open I believe.

Turning off all javascript is perhaps one of the main pages of solving
the problem. But then, there are "fake popups" spawned by CSS.
here it is:
http://www.remember.mine.nu/
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i don't know how much legit traffic will get blackholed though.
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I'm not really sure how much a hosts file will stop popups. It will
prevent banners from the blocked domains from loading yes, but popups
should still occur (the javascript just causes it comes from the domain
you are on and it works fine), except that nothing will be displayed in
them.
 
Im sorry to say that I get the same.. I found this discussion after
trying to find out how to snuff out the tickle pop-unders that I get
from time to time. Ten minutes ago it happened from Drudge.

I have today's FF 1.0RC1, and it also happened on 1.0PR as well.

Firefox has kept me 99% popup free and 100% spyware free. We're even
close to deploying it in our large corp offices where spyware claims
three pc's a day - 80% of our manhours go to spyware cleaning!

Unfortunately, as FF becomes more and more mainstream, people will
find ways around it. However, the amazing members of this community
will prevail IMO.
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Just an observation...

A fresh install of windows/Firefox 1.0PR and then the RC1 *seems* to
have fixed the pop-unders. I've been trying all morning at Drudge...

*Crossing Fingers*
 
L. Ivan said
(e-mail address removed) (L. Ivan) wrote in message


Just an observation...

A fresh install of windows/Firefox 1.0PR and then the RC1 *seems* to
have fixed the pop-unders. I've been trying all morning at Drudge...

*Crossing Fingers*
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Clear ALL your net data (Cache, cookies, history, etc) then repeat the
test. I can get the popups easily if I load Drudge with a "clean memory"
then click on one of the links.

I hope I'm wrong....
 
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