Which a/v after IE eradicated?

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In Message-ID:<[email protected]> posted on Wed,
21 Jan 2004 15:33:18 +0000, M wrote:

Hopefully the more I lurk around these groups the less a 'click happy
Kazaa-using dumbass' I become :)

Thanks again, Mike

....and your lurking experience will become an more of an entertaining
one and less of a rescue one. ;-)
 
I'll drink to that Art !

Dave



|
| >Only one DLL needed... MSHTML.DLL
| >
| >But this whole argument is a bit pointless...
|
| It's not pointless simply because it's a semantic (not Symantec :))
| quagmire.
|
| >An AV suite shouldnt *need* IE. But if it does, this on it's own
| >doesnt make it bad. I would have thought reliability and detection rate
| >might be important factors!
|
| Of course, but obviously you're using the term "bad" in a different
| way than others who have posted.
|
| >In the same way that malware might hijack libraries such as
| >MSHTML.DLL, they might also go for any other library.
|
| Hijacking libraries is not the issue. That IE is particularly
| vulnerable and exploitable is the issue.
|
| >So the argument that using an AV suite that needs IE
| >is less secure doesnt hold.
|
| That's not the argument at all. The argument is that IE is a honeypot
| for malware so any av that requires it is a self contradiction and
| just plain stooopid! :) Symantec, by requiring IE is, in effect,
| putting its blessing on IE. That's stooopid! And a "BAD THING".
|
| >So I'm not sure whose side I'm on now, so I'll hedge my bets and
| >say you are all wrong! :-)
|
| Best to say we are all correct since we are.
|
|
| Art
| http://www.epix.net/~artnpeg
 
Bart Bailey said:
In Message-ID:<[email protected]> posted on
If the AV suite simply needs some core libraries including
MSHTML.dll, these should still be available. If the user
has removed these, then he/she is a fool!

There's no [MSHTML.dll] on this system,
and my AV scanners all work just fine.

So I guess that makes you the fool!

Neither do I, but I do have a 32 bit module running by that name.

Do you have mshtml.dl_? Maybe some preparatory work
has to be done to run the module?
There's no way that malware requiring [MSHTML.dll] could even function
on this system were I fool enough to try and run it.

Maybe it could function using the executable image even though the
"file" is stored compressed.
So I guess that makes you the fool!

He may be a fool, but for all the wrong reasons.
If I try to run "C:\Windows\Help\Windows.hlp",
It works just fine.
Hmmm.

So I guess that makes you the fool!

Assumptions abound.

HTML "viewer" is what my module description says.

(no "file" though) :O)
 
In Message-ID:<[email protected]> posted on Wed, 21 Jan
Do you have mshtml.dl_?

Nope
Search for [mshtml.dll] - 0 file(s) found
Maybe some preparatory work
has to be done to run the module?

Like install IE?
fat chance <g>

I yanked it years ago after I upgraded from IE 3.02 to 4.01 and decided
I wanted neither, nor any of their HTML rendering engine components,
including shdoc.dll

nota bene - after running ieradicate, these two dll's might have to be
manually removed to completely protect against some malware trying to
call them.
 
In Message-ID:<[email protected]> posted on Wed, 21 Jan
Do you have mshtml.dl_?

Nope
Search for [mshtml.dll] - 0 file(s) found
Maybe some preparatory work
has to be done to run the module?

Like install IE?
fat chance <g>

I yanked it years ago after I upgraded from IE 3.02 to 4.01 and decided
I wanted neither, nor any of their HTML rendering engine components,
including shdoc.dll

nota bene - after running ieradicate, these two dll's might have to be
manually removed to completely protect against some malware trying to
call them.

On Win ME, after using IEradicator, I've also renamed away:

MSHTML.DLL
MSHTML.TLB
MSHTMLED.DLL
MSHTMLER.DLL

Just for the helluvit and good riddance :)


Art
http://www.epix.net/~artnpeg
 
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