What's the verdict on C# and Visual Studio .NET?

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Is it controled by a standards body where anybody can submit proposals or is
it controled by the company ?`

And yes its important, VB6 is going to die in a few years, no more support
and since its not goverend by a standards body were ass reamed, if you hit a
bug, dont expect a bugfix.

So yes standards are important, and especially when going for approved and
certified systems one is developing.
 
Is it controled by a standards body where anybody can submit proposals
or is it controled by the company ?`
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Controlled by company.
And yes its important, VB6 is going to die in a few years, no more
support and since its not goverend by a standards body were ass reamed,
if you hit a bug, dont expect a bugfix.
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Thats because MS has chanegd VB liek 4 times and broken it. I have code that
comipled in TP3 back in 1990 that STILL compiles with Delphi 8. So you can
stuff your standards - Its about the company just as much.

If you wnat a testimony to compatibility look at Indy:
http://www.indyproject.org/indy.html

Compiles in Delphi 4-8, C++ Builder 5-6, Kylix, and works in output for C#
and VB.

It would go back farther than D4, but we decided to use new compiler and VCL
features.
So yes standards are important, and especially when going for approved
and certified systems one is developing.
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No - committment to backwards compat is whats necessary.



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Is Delphi a standard or propriety like VB and Java?It is one of the best compilers and class base (VCL) ever designed.
..NET now is starting to become what Delphi 1.0 had in its VCL in 1995
regarding to programming and functionality.
 
Marc Scheuner said:
I know - I like that !! :-)
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I wonder if Delphi 8 Personal Edition will be a free download for
non-commercial development, as is C# Builder. As I see it, this is an
excellent idea for both Borland and its consumers.

Indeed, this is what attracted me to Delphi in the first place.
 
Youre just gona have to accept C# is here to stay just like VB6 was, just
even more so. Its gona be a replacement for VB, I dont know why people want
to do VB.NET appart from theyre skillset which needs updated for VB.net as
its totall different except some keywords or a previous project and
managemnt have no clue and just see the 2 letters VB and say yes!. Then
there are those that chose C++/CLI becuase of its penis extension potential
yet its only costing them time and headaches on a project that has ZERO need
for the C++/CLI features and can be done faster in C#: I had one guy who
wanted C++/CLI for a project cuz it was "cool" i just frowned and said youre
using C# becuase its the better choice and also because we have people doing
algorithms that have no programming background. All too often the ego
distortion field is in the IT industry and its just stupid.

As for VB, well its keyword bloat like COBOL for ZERO gain over C#.
 
I think it's partly because one of the minds behind C# was also behind
Delphi (Andres H(something) I think). C# seems more like a C/Delphi cross
to me, and it's got some VB stuff thrown in... foreach etc. There are
definitely Delphi-like things that are missing in C#, but in all it's nice
that taking up C# isn't so bad if you know Delphi.
 
C P said:
I think it's partly because one of the minds behind C# was also behind
Delphi (Andres H(something) I think). C# seems more like a C/Delphi cross
to me, and it's got some VB stuff thrown in... foreach etc. There are
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For Each did not originate in VB AFAIK but was in some other languages long
before.


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Delphi (Andres H(something) I think).

Anders Hejlsberg is the guy's name

Marc
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