What's the best freeware defragger to use in Windows XP Pro. SP2with limited free disk spaces?

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The date and time was Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:18:47 AM, and on a
whim, Gordon pounded out on the keyboard:
There's at least two - this one, with this subject line
"What's the best freeware defragger to use in Windows XP Pro. SP2 with
limited free disk spaces?"

and one with the subject line of
"What's the best freeware defragger to use in Windows XP Pro. S"

Notice the difference?
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Bill stated, "separate posts". As I said, there is only one "thread"
here. Anyone can change the subject line at any time.

But you are correct that within this thread, some changed the Subject.
But I don't have my headers set to show the full width, as usually a
Subject line isn't so long, so I didn't notice the change at the end.


Terry R.
 
Terry said:
The date and time was Thursday, March 12, 2009 10:18:47 AM, and on a
whim, Gordon pounded out on the keyboard:


Bill stated, "separate posts". As I said, there is only one "thread"
here. Anyone can change the subject line at any time.

But you are correct that within this thread, some changed the Subject.
But I don't have my headers set to show the full width, as usually a
Subject line isn't so long, so I didn't notice the change at the end.
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If one changes the spacing in the subject line, as was done, it shows up as
a new thread in OE. IOW, it's not tiered or grouped underneath the
previous ones. Presumably the OP did this to create more responses.
 
The date and time was Thursday, March 12, 2009 12:39:00 PM, and on a
whim, Bill in Co. pounded out on the keyboard:
Exactly. And there have been several such variations. I think the new OP
(Ant) did it by creating new posts with variations in the spacing in the
subject title.
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Hi Bill,

He didn't create "new posts". He just modified the Subject when he
replied. Is it really that big of a deal?


Terry R.
 
The date and time was Thursday, March 12, 2009 1:07:51 PM, and on a
whim, Bill in Co. pounded out on the keyboard:
If one changes the spacing in the subject line, as was done, it shows up as
a new thread in OE. IOW, it's not tiered or grouped underneath the
previous ones. Presumably the OP did this to create more responses.
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Without starting a flame war, OE/WM has MANY flaws, the biggest IMO is
inserting a delimiter when using a sig and top posting that wipes out
everything when a proper newsreader replies. But you have pointed
another one.

On a "good newsreader", new threads aren't started just by modifying the
Subject. Read my reply to you regarding Google Groupers and see what it
takes to create new threads.


Terry R.
 
Terry said:
The date and time was Thursday, March 12, 2009 12:39:00 PM, and on a
whim, Bill in Co. pounded out on the keyboard:


Hi Bill,

He didn't create "new posts". He just modified the Subject when he
replied. Is it really that big of a deal?
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Yeah, it is. Why on earth would someone modify the subject line that way?
 
The date and time was Thursday, March 12, 2009 2:43:40 PM, and on a
whim, Bill in Co. pounded out on the keyboard:
Yeah, it is. Why on earth would someone modify the subject line that way?
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Usually because they aren't newsgroup savvy. He is kind of carrying on
the conversation using the Subject line, instead of adding to the post
itself.

Like I said, for good newsreaders it's no big deal as they are all still
in the same thread for me.


Terry R.
 
Strange. I don't know why it adds spaces. I use multiple computers and
SeaMonkey v1.1.14's newsreader to read and post. Sorry if it was my
fault (not sure how to fix that too). :(


And also try using just ONE post for the subject line, and not all these
variations in subject spacing, for all these multiple duplicated posts.
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Phillip Pi
Senior Software Quality Assurance Analyst
ISP/Symantec Online Services, Consumer Business Unit
Symantec Corporation
www.symantec.com
 
He didn't create "new posts". He just modified the Subject when he
Usually because they aren't newsgroup savvy. He is kind of carrying on
the conversation using the Subject line, instead of adding to the post
itself.

Like I said, for good newsreaders it's no big deal as they are all still
in the same thread for me.
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Strange. Sorry about that. I was trying to add brief information in the
newsgroup thread title.

I don't know why it adds spaces even though I didn't put that in. I use
multiple computers and SeaMonkey v1.1.14's newsreader to read and post.
Sorry if it was my fault (not sure how to fix that too). :(
--
Phillip Pi
Senior Software Quality Assurance Analyst
ISP/Symantec Online Services, Consumer Business Unit
Symantec Corporation
www.symantec.com
 
On a "good newsreader", new threads aren't started just by modifying the
Subject. Read my reply to you regarding Google Groupers and see what it
takes to create new threads.
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I hope it wasn't SeaMonkey v1.1.14's newsreader fault. I do use mulitple
computers to read and post. I apologize if it was my side. :(
--
Phillip Pi (aka Ant)
Senior Software Quality Assurance Analyst
ISP/Symantec Online Services, Consumer Business Unit
Symantec Corporation
www.symantec.com
 
Phillip

Your newsreader does seem to add spaces in the subject. It has added two
spaces between disk and space, which were not there in the message you
relied to.

--


Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
Bill

From here what you say is not true. However, that is not to say that it may
not be true with some newsreaders.


--


Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
The date and time was Thursday, March 12, 2009 4:40:22 PM, and on a
whim, Phillip Pi pounded out on the keyboard:
Strange. I don't know why it adds spaces. I use multiple computers and
SeaMonkey v1.1.14's newsreader to read and post. Sorry if it was my
fault (not sure how to fix that too). :(
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Hi Phillip,

Usually once you post, the Subject isn't modified, unless the thread has
gone Off Topic, in which an OT is placed at the beginning of the
Subject. You kept modifying the Subject line, which must cause issues
with MS clients. I guess it's payback for the MS delimiter issue. ;-)


Terry R.
 
The date and time was Thursday, March 12, 2009 4:41:56 PM, and on a
whim, Phillip Pi pounded out on the keyboard:
Strange. Sorry about that. I was trying to add brief information in the
newsgroup thread title.

I don't know why it adds spaces even though I didn't put that in. I use
multiple computers and SeaMonkey v1.1.14's newsreader to read and post.
Sorry if it was my fault (not sure how to fix that too). :(
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It's not your fault, except for modifying the Subject line, which
usually isn't done unless the thread goes OT.

SM is a good newsreader.

Terry R.
 
The date and time was Thursday, March 12, 2009 5:47:32 PM, and on a
whim, Gerry pounded out on the keyboard:
Phillip

Your newsreader does seem to add spaces in the subject. It has added two
spaces between disk and space, which were not there in the message you
relied to.
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(everything below was removed because poster is using an MS client that
inserts a delimiter when top posting with a sig)

His newsreader? I doubt that's where the problem lies. Look further.
You'll see it happens on mine also on a few replies.


Terry R.
 
The date and time was Thursday, March 12, 2009 4:44:30 PM, and on a
whim, Phillip Pi pounded out on the keyboard:
I hope it wasn't SeaMonkey v1.1.14's newsreader fault. I do use mulitple
computers to read and post. I apologize if it was my side. :(
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Again, it's not on your side. It's a broken MS client. Not new news...


Terry R.
 
Terry

You're obsessed with the delimiter. What does this have to do with adding
spaces to the subject?


--


Gerry
~~~~
FCA
Stourport, England
Enquire, plan and execute
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
 
The date and time was Thursday, March 12, 2009 6:41:28 PM, and on a
whim, Gerry pounded out on the keyboard:
Terry

You're obsessed with the delimiter. What does this have to do with adding
spaces to the subject?
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No, I'm obsessed with the fact that the flaw in MS clients is blatantly
obvious and yet ignored by most users of OE/WM.

What other client INSERTS a delimiter when top posting using a sig
(hint: NONE), and then IGNORES ANY delimiter when replying? ONLY MS
clients. Learn how newsreaders work and what the delimiter was designed
to do. Then you'll understand the frustration. And maybe then you'll
take steps to fix your broken newsreader. I gave this to you once, I'll
do it again:
http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/



Terry R.
 
Terry said:
The date and time was Thursday, March 12, 2009 4:40:22 PM, and on a
whim, Phillip Pi pounded out on the keyboard:


Hi Phillip,

Usually once you post, the Subject isn't modified, unless the thread has
gone Off Topic, in which an OT is placed at the beginning of the
Subject. You kept modifying the Subject line, which must cause issues
with MS clients.
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Well, if one changes the subject line in any manner, then quite logically it
becomes a new thread. (Even if just the spacing is changed).
 
Well, if one changes the subject line in any manner, then quite
logically it becomes a new thread.
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Just as beauty is in the eye of the beholder, one can argue that a
thread is a function of the newsreader being used to read it. In most
news clients, a thread can contain changing subject lines. Messy, yes.
And I don't normally advocate it. But there it is. :-)

Another way to define a thread is by its posts' headers. There is
certainly logic behind this definition.
 
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