What kind of browser for Windows 98?

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Hi there I don't want to beat on about security issues but (there's
always a but lol)

Rootkit's are not much of a problem on Win9x as there is no user level
security in place, everything runs as root (or ring 0)if a rootkit/worm
or other piece of malicious code is doing its job properly you would not
notice that's the whole point of them.
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Is rootkit code the same, no matter the O/S in use? The way I see W98 -
perhaps incorrectly - is that no-one is going to bother to write
malicious code that will target an outdated O/S. They are going to
target XP or Vista. The security issues on Vista & XP are not going to
be the same on W98. Perhaps this is the wrong way to look at it? What
do you think?
 
Peter said:
Seconded! I've had no problem doing both for many years on a W98 box.
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I was very glad to see the back of it and its memory leaks when we moved
to WIN 2000 Pro .. and that still does all we -need-

We did have a PC here with Vista ... bib, big, mistake:(..
 
tony sayer said:
I was very glad to see the back of it and its memory leaks when we moved
to WIN 2000 Pro .. and that still does all we -need-

We did have a PC here with Vista ... bib, big, mistake:(..
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IMHO, Win2k was the best OS of the bunch. I have always regretted having to
move "up" to XP.

Jon
 
Peter said:
Is rootkit code the same, no matter the O/S in use? The way I see W98 -
perhaps incorrectly - is that no-one is going to bother to write
malicious code that will target an outdated O/S. They are going to
target XP or Vista. The security issues on Vista & XP are not going to
be the same on W98. Perhaps this is the wrong way to look at it? What
do you think?
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Rootkit code exploits the Kernel debug commands that are built into the
OS they then install custom Dynamic Link Libraries (loaded in as device
drivers) which contains the malicious code/ back doors etc they require.

I really cant remember to be honest if win 98 has the same debug
commands but I would assume so.

As for writing malicious code for an outdated OS, probably not but there
are still bugs being found that affect all versions of windows from
Vista all the way down to 9x there was quite a famous one as an example,
happened a good few moths ago, there was a flaw in the way that windows
handled jpeg pictures, if code was specially crafted into a jpeg image
and opened on a windows machine it could execute code this affected all
versions of windows and there was a big ho-ha because Microsoft was not
going to fix the win9x bug just the xp and vista machines, but they
eventually issued a patch for all OS's

Last week there was a flaw in adobes acrobat reader that affects all
versions and all Operating systems including Linux and mac so it just
goes to show you that you have to keep things up to date.

But as was said on a previous post, its all down to the user really and
there surfing habits.


JPEG vuln (http://www.microsoft.com/technet/security/Bulletin/ms05-038.mspx)
Adobe reader problem
(http://blogs.adobe.com/psirt/2009/04/update_on_adobe_reader_issue.html)

JD
 
JD said:
Very good point.
its probably the users that cause most of the problems other than the OS
its self, however even the safest users security can be let down by a
poorly written program and that was the angle I was going for (as its no
longer supported, and bugs are still being found that filter down the
Windows versions chain)
:)



While were on the Subject of OS's my favorate OS of all time is FreeBSD
not the most user friendly or best program for most users but i like its
simple design of minimal install and add the stuff you require.

JD
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Did you get that from Freebyte, or Berkely (sp)?
 
JD said:
SNIP
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SNIP SNIP
I've been following news on Windows 7, and apparently it will run on older
pc without much problems its not as bloated as vista, many people have
Windows 7 loaded onto "netbooks" you know those cheap low spec laptop
replacements designed for surfing etc (typical spec is a sub 1Ghz CPU with
512 to 1GB of memmory)

I will be installing Windows 7 RC1 64 bit on a test machine later on
tonight.
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I'll be interested in hearing you're results.
This is no real problem on a modern PC If I had old software I wanted or
needed to run I'd Just set up a virtual machine for that particular OS and
install/Run the programs I require, there's even a compatibility mode
built into XP and newer OS's so you can run the program as if it was a
95,98/me,NT4 or 2000
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Virtual machine beyond my scope. As for the XPs compatibility mode, it
still doesn't allow all old programs. Fortunately, it does allow one of my
most important programs, a cookbook set for Win 3.1/95. I use it quite
often. But some of my old video games didn't survive the jump.
Windows 2000 was a great OS, Many offices still use it, I'm quite the
opposite of yourself I love upgrading getting new PC gear every chance I
get, it is quite expensive tho, but on the other hand I fix loads of pc's
and that gives me more cash to spend on more gear lol
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I'm a lower intermediate. I rebuild and fix older systems for people who
can't really afford computers, and solve the many operator-caused problems
for family and extended family.

Currently Running a Qaud core 8GB ram (1033MHZ Ram), 8GB Ram drive for OS
(2x Gigabit I-Rams in Raid 0, A hard drive that uses RAM instead of
platters even puts the new Solid state drives in the shade) all the
optical drives are on SATA-II's also + Spinpoint 1GB drive for storage
HD4850 GFX etc, this things fast I can run 2 eve clients, transcode video
and copy a dvd at the same time and even brows the internet and it wont go
over 70% CPU
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WOW. Can I have it when you're done? :)
Always sensible to wait for a bit to see what problems are occurring
before getting the latest OS



I think you are getting confused with the Atari
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Nah! Amiga was put out in mid-80s by Commodore to compete with the Mac and
IBM-PC. It was popular for "advanced" graphics and midi. A friend of mine
used it for his synthesizer. I went with the Commodore Colt PC-clone with
twin 5.25" floppy drives and spent hours playing Empire. OK. I'm feeling a
little old now.
JD
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Woof
 
JD said:
Berkley ofcoarse www.freebsd.org also Frenzy is a very good version that
runs from a CD good for troubleshooting etc
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I write this from a 500Mhz P-III box running W98se. I am using and
recommend that you try SeaMonkey V1.1.14. This is a functionally
direct descendant of NS7.1 which contains both a Web browser and
and Email and News client. You can download it from the Mozilla
site.
Note: The next version of SeaMonkey (V 2) will also no longer work
with W98. But supposedly will (supposedly the beta does) work with
one of the compatability extensions ...
You should subscribe to the mozilla.support.seamonkey newsgroup
on the news.mozilla.org news server. SM2 on W98+ has been discussed.

Anyway GOOGLE SeaMonkey ...
 
I'm using an old PC with Windows 98 on it. Up until recently it
has done fine, but now because of whatever improvements
have been made it will no longer show most maps, or the
weather. I like using an older version of Netscape 7.1 because
of the personal toolbar. Is it possible that I could once again
view maps and weather if I start using a laterbrowser? I tried
the latest version of Firefox but was told it would not run on
my system. Is there an older version that would run using
Windows 98, and if so is it likely that it would be any sort of
an improvement?
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Under Win98SE I use and recommend Mozilla Firefox v.2.0.0.20
(the last issued for Win98) downloadable from
http://en-us.www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/all-older.html

The most common limitation of Win98 seems to be PDF
documents. The last Adobe AcroRead for Win98 was v.6
and the software for XP now is up to v.8. Documents
created under later versions sometimes prompt in V.6
an error message that some components may not display:
but this has never yet prevented my reading anything I
wanted to see.
 
I'm using an old PC with Windows 98 on it. Up until recently it
has done fine, but now because of whatever improvements
have been made it will no longer show most maps, or the
weather. I like using an older version of Netscape 7.1 because
of the personal toolbar. Is it possible that I could once again
view maps and weather if I start using a laterbrowser? I tried
thelatestversion of Firefox but was told it would not run on
my system. Is there an older version that would run using
Windows 98, and if so is it likely that it would be any sort of
an improvement? I didn't see an option to download older
versions at Mozilla, so where could I download one if it might
do some good?

Thanks for any help!
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Hey Why don't you try mozilla its one of the best browser here is the
link http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/personal.html
 
Fire Fox won't install on Win 98. See system requirements.
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I'm using an old PC with Windows 98 on it. Up until recently it
has done fine, but now because of whatever improvements
have been made it will no longer show most maps, or the
weather. I like using an older version of Netscape 7.1 because
of the personal toolbar. Is it possible that I could once again
view maps and weather if I start using a laterbrowser? I tried
thelatestversion of Firefox but was told it would not run on
my system. Is there an older version that would run using
Windows 98, and if so is it likely that it would be any sort of
an improvement? I didn't see an option to download older
versions at Mozilla, so where could I download one if it might
do some good?

Thanks for any help!
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Hey Why don't you try mozilla its one of the best browser here is the
link http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/personal.html
 
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I'm using an old PC with Windows 98 on it. Up until recently it
has done fine, but now because of whatever improvements
have been made it will no longer show most maps, or the
weather. I like using an older version of Netscape 7.1 because
of the personal toolbar. Is it possible that I could once again
view maps and weather if I start using a laterbrowser? I tried
thelatestversion of Firefox but was told it would not run on
my system. Is there an older version that would run using
Windows 98, and if so is it likely that it would be any sort of
an improvement? I didn't see an option to download older
versions at Mozilla, so where could I download one if it might
do some good?

Thanks for any help!
Click to expand...

Hey Why don't you try mozilla its one of the best browser here is the
link http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/personal.html
 
Visit Gemini-aquarius7.com

You will find Affiliates: Wonderlabs Labs (oral Chelation - Good Variety of
Herbs) - CloudNine ( Anti-Aging products )
You will be able to subscribe to a Satellite web site to watch TV online -
or download from (movies all free)

Also a Canadian Company called Tiger Direct ( you will find a large variety
of Products)

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