What is the box thing near the fan aperture?

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Stacey said:
Especially if you have "view threads with new articles". If he
didn't crosspost it, you -would- see it a dozen times no
matter what settings you used.
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As the "crossposter" I was wondering at the vehemence of the
outburst and began to think Mozilla could not mark crossposts in
other newsgroups as read after one of messages had been read.

I'm not sure what people are thinking when they bitch about
someone crossposting, -that is- the correct way to do it.
What's much more irritating is top posting or not snipping
irrelevant text but that's another topic.
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Hear hear!
 
Dickens said:
As the "crossposter" I was wondering at the vehemence of the
outburst and began to think Mozilla could not mark crossposts in
other newsgroups as read after one of messages had been read.
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I can see no cross-posting in this thread. Possibly you
multi-posted, which is a differently colored cat.
 
Patrick said:
Nope, you are not dumb. But, you do tend to piss folks off when you
cross post to all those newsgroups!!!

AND, because I am not certain that you even read one specific newsgroup,
I MUST POST to replies to them ALL!!!!!
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Five groups is *quite* a lot, but not outrageous - and the question seems
more-or-less relevant to them all. I have my newsreader set to ignore any
post sent to more than six groups, so this one is OK.

Any decent newsreader software will notice the cross-post and only retrieve
the message once, so no real harm is done.

Yes, you should reply in all the groups, because if you only post in one
group people who only read the message in a different group will not know
that it has already been answered, and will answer again, fragmenting the
conversation. Bad idea.

... but then, you didn't actually answer the question at all, did you?
Fortunately other people have.
Most of us monitor them ALL, looking to help folks, and your name and
addy pop up in them ALL! NOW, MY reply will, also!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Only for those people using duff newsreader software.

Cheers,
Daniel.
 
You would be correct if you had included a "REPLY-TO" group in your
header. You didn't, so you aren't.
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"Reply-To:" headers do more harm than good. If a question is asked in
five groups and anwered in (any) one of those groups the answer
*should* be visible in all five, so that everyone who sees the
question can also see that it has been answered. The common
netiquette advice to use a "Reply-To:" to direct all answers to a
single group is actually counter-productive.

Cheers,
Daniel.
 
"Reply-To:" headers do more harm than good.
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You mean "follow up to".
If a question is asked in five groups and anwered in (any) one of those
groups the answer *should* be visible in all five, so that everyone who
sees the question can also see that it has been answered. The common
netiquette advice to use a "Reply-To:" to direct all answers to a
single group is actually counter-productive.
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Netiquette advice is to set a followupto, and mention that in the body.
anyone who wants to read the thread can subscribe to that group. Anyone
who isn't interested need do nothing, unless that group is the one being
followed-upped-to, in which case they can filter the thread out.
 
CBFalconer said:
If he had to do that he could have at least set followups to
whereever he actually posted from.




And this makes you appear dumb. A single reply will go to the
whole crossposted list with any reasonable newsreader.




Your reader, which appears to be Mozilla/Netscape, should mark all
the entries in other groups as read and not annoy you with them
again.
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Oh! Oh! NOT so, and I cannot find the option!!!!

OK, now I DO really feel DUMB!

But, I JUST updated, apt-get upgraded, and will look, again!
 
Here in news.software.readers said:
But I know that if OE 6 reads a crossposted message then it marks
it as read in all subsequent header downloads which OE might make
from other groups. Hmmm ... no wonder Peter Norton actually
recommends OE in one of his books.
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That's pretty standard behavior for good newsreaders.
 
CBFalconer said:
I can see no cross-posting in this thread. Possibly you
multi-posted, which is a differently colored cat.
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You did not go back far enough in the thread.
--
A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
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On this we agree.
 
Patrick said:
Oh! Oh! NOT so, and I cannot find the option!!!!

OK, now I DO really feel DUMB!

But, I JUST updated, apt-get upgraded, and will look, again!
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My lowly ver. 4.5 has that option. Just go to "VIEW", "MESSAGES" and
click on "UNREAD". Messages read in one NG will automatically be marked
as READ in others to which they were crossposted.
 
Daniel said:
Any decent newsreader software will notice the cross-post and only retrieve
the message once, so no real harm is done.
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The real harm in crossposting is that flame wars that erupt in one
NG are transferred to ALL crossposted NGs.
 
"Reply-To:" headers do more harm than good. If a question is asked in
five groups and anwered in (any) one of those groups the answer
*should* be visible in all five, so that everyone who sees the
question can also see that it has been answered. The common
netiquette advice to use a "Reply-To:" to direct all answers to a
single group is actually counter-productive.
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You're talking about Followup, not Reply.
 
Dickens said:
But I know that if OE 6 reads a crossposted message then it marks
it as read in all subsequent header downloads which OE might make
from other groups. Hmmm ... no wonder Peter Norton actually
recommends OE in one of his books.
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Because OE gets one thing right? Peter is easy.
 
Most of us monitor them ALL, looking to help folks, and your name and
addy pop up in them ALL! NOW, MY reply will, also!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Slows me down when I am searching to help someone, and I have to read
your messages AGAIN, and AGAIN, and AGAIN!!!!!!!
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Then your newsreader is broken or misconfigured. Simple.
 
Bob said:
Then your newsreader is broken or misconfigured. Simple.
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I have this problem with Mozilla. Any message I read in another group
isn't automatically read in the groups it's crossposted to. Have had a
good look through the settings TNA..

If anyone knows what I'm missing I'd be very happy to learn!
 
I have this problem with Mozilla. Any message I read in another group
isn't automatically read in the groups it's crossposted to. Have had a
good look through the settings TNA..

If anyone knows what I'm missing I'd be very happy to learn!
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Sorry, can't help you myself. I don't use Mozilla, or OE, or anthing you
are likely to use.
 
Mothball said:
I have this problem with Mozilla. Any message I read in another group
isn't automatically read in the groups it's crossposted to. Have had a
good look through the settings TNA..

If anyone knows what I'm missing I'd be very happy to learn!
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In my lowly 4.5 (Netscape), it's "VIEW", "MESSAGES", "UNREAD"
 
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