What is freeware?

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Well and there is adware that is impossible to "swat"

In the world of software, anything that can be created can be destroyed.
Anything that can be secured, can be hacked. How many more times will we
have this conversation? How's the weather up there in ca? :)

Bob
 
Harvey said:
On 07 Aug 2004, Susan Bugher wrote
I realise that this was flogged to death earlier this year, but FWIW I
still feel that one point in the manifesto on that page -- "The goals
of the Pricelessware List do NOT include selecting programs to fit
every subcategory" -- cripples (or at least seriously compromises) the
usefulness of the list.

There was a discussion but no decisions were made. Now we *are*
reviewing the procedures - if the group favors a change in the PL goals
they will be revised.
Categories should be left empty only if there's no suitable freeware
product, not simply because too few voters use the specialist product
categories.

The method of selection proposed in the PL procedures is similar to the
method that was used last year. Last year there was discussion about the
method of selection after the fact.

This year "da rules" are spelled out in more detail - the goal is to
reach agreement *before* the selection process start.
(It's probably best for my blood pressure if I just blissfully ignore
the nominations, discussions and list.)

your call. . . :)

Susan
 
Freeware, pure and simple, is computer software for which there is no
cost or no charge, and with no implied or explicit obligation on the part
of the user other than, perhaps, to give credit to the originator, and to
not alter it.

You're just trying to confuse us with facts and logic. :P

Bob
 
In the world of software, anything that can be created can be destroyed.

Of course, but in this context I mean impossible to "swat" by the likes of
you and me.

Anything that can be secured, can be hacked. How many more times will we
have this conversation?

As far as I know, we haven't had this conversation before.
How's the weather up there in ca? :)

Ca? Where's that? Canada?
 
Hey B. R. 'BeAr' Ederson ([email protected])! You
wrote in message <[email protected]>, at group
alt.comp.freeware, on the date of Sun, 8 Aug 2004 08:07:51 +0200:

I tolerate mild forms of adware if the program is a bit outstanding
and the ads *will not be loaded off the internet*. InfoRapid 'Search &
Replace' falls in this category. In fact it isn't true adware, but sets
a self promoting banner on top of their results listing. Other people
will have different confines. But as adware is some kind of grey area,
ISTM it *is* more related to shareware than freeware, generally.

I've blocked some sites from where the FlashGet download manader (tries to)
download banners, using my HOSTS file.

[]s
 
Hey Chaos Master ([email protected])! You wrote in message
<[email protected]>, at group alt.comp.freeware,
Hey B. R. 'BeAr' Ederson ([email protected])! You
wrote in message <[email protected]>, at group
alt.comp.freeware, on the date of Sun, 8 Aug 2004 08:07:51 +0200:



I've blocked some sites from where the FlashGet download manader (tries to)
download banners, using my HOSTS file.

And other thing:

I used to use the Opera browser (adware), but the ads weren't a problem (not
the graphical ads. The 'google sponsored' ones), they were just a bar taking
screen space. I guess I could have blocked them with HOSTS file, but I didn't
bother.

[]s
 
dszady said:
Due to disruptions beyond the control of the readership as a whole we were
going to discuss "What is the definition of Freeware?" this year.
Now is a good time since John Corliss brought this up.
We had a vote last year on what is relevent to discuss. Should I research
this and then we debate it? It wasn't a debate last year, it was a vote.
Freeware is about the price of this software
it s free as free beer ,
not confond freeware and free software (from the Gnu project definition
: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) :

``Free software'' is a matter of liberty, not price. To understand the
concept, you should think of ``free'' as in ``free speech,'' not as in
``free beer.''

Free software is a matter of the users' freedom to run, copy,
distribute, study, change and improve the software. More precisely, it
refers to four kinds of freedom, for the users of the software:

* The freedom to run the program, for any purpose (freedom 0).
* The freedom to study how the program works, and adapt it to your
needs (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a precondition for this.
* The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help your neighbor
(freedom 2).
* The freedom to improve the program, and release your improvements
to the public, so that the whole community benefits (freedom 3). Access
to the source code is a precondition for this.

so if it s free as paid nothing it s mean it s freeware but not mean
free software have the right to access source code ...


freeware just price
free software is freedom right
we can also tell about open source for free software ;)

Gnu is open
:)
 
Vent said:
Freeware is about the price of this software
it s free as free beer ,
not confond freeware and free software (from the Gnu project definition
: http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html) :

``Free software'' is a matter of liberty, not price. To understand the
concept, you should think of ``free'' as in ``free speech,'' not as in
``free beer.''

Free software is a matter of the users' freedom to run, copy,
distribute, study, change and improve the software. More precisely, it
refers to four kinds of freedom, for the users of the software:

* The freedom to run the program, for any purpose (freedom 0).
* The freedom to study how the program works, and adapt it to your
needs (freedom 1). Access to the source code is a precondition for this.
* The freedom to redistribute copies so you can help your neighbor
(freedom 2).
* The freedom to improve the program, and release your improvements
to the public, so that the whole community benefits (freedom 3). Access
to the source code is a precondition for this.

so if it s free as paid nothing it s mean it s freeware but not mean
free software have the right to access source code ...


freeware just price
free software is freedom right
we can also tell about open source for free software ;)

Gnu is open
:)
Just to said like in freeware you have the beer , and in free software
you can have the recipe of this beer , and / or the beer if you want
 
Vent d' Est - East Wind wrote:

"Freeware: Legally obtainable software that you may use at no cost,
monetary or otherwise, for as long as you wish."

See:

http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/acf/WareGlossary.htm

These are the Ware Definitions agreed upon by participants in the
alt.comp.freeware newsgroup. The last review and revision of the Ware
Glossary was in April 2004.

<quote>

alt.comp.freeware's Ware Glossary

Software: the instructions executed by a computer.

In theory software does not include the data processed by the
instructions. In practice a combination of instructions and data is
often called software.

Below is a brief glossary defining ware types shown on the Pricelessware
pages and/ or used in the alt.comp.freeware newsgroup.

Several ware types may be used when describing a program (for example:
Donationware and Liteware and Betaware). Ware types are listed in
alphabetical order.

Abandonware: software that the original owner no longer offers to the
public. Abandonware refers to a product that is no longer marketed or
distributed by the author/company that published it. Orphanware is used
when the author cannot be located or the company is no longer in
existence. Copyright laws apply to Orphanware and Abandonware. The
programs are freeware only if they were released as freeware (or given
freeware status by the owner at a later date).

Adware:
1. software that displays advertising for other products and/or services
(often downloaded from the internet by the software).
2. software that places advertisements on the end product (photos, web
pages, PDF files etc.).

Betaware: a preliminary but useable version of what will be the final
version of a program. Beta versions are intended for testing by users
(alpha versions are test versions for the developers).

CDWare: promo CDs included with magazines, books or other products

Commercial Software: software that is sold.

Crippleware: free version of a commercial program. More limited in
features and functionality than the commercial product. Crippleware has
severe limitations. Functionality that is important to the average user
has been disabled.

Demo-ware: software that is intended to give potential purchasers an
idea of how the program works. Not a full version, type of limitation
varies.

Donationware: monetary contribution requested (optional)

Freeware: Legally obtainable software that you may use at no cost,
monetary or otherwise, for as long as you wish.

Liteware: free version of a commercial program. A useful program that is
more limited in features and functionality than the commercial product.
Liteware is not time-limited.

Malware: software that contains malicious programming

Nagware: has a popup (nag) screen, asking you to purchase the software.
You must press a button to get past the nag screen.

Orphanware: see Abandonware

Registerware: you must provide personal information via registration in
order to download and/or use the program

Requestware: you are asked to do something. Examples: send a postcard or
email to the software author, perform a good deed, make a contribution
to charity

Shareware: commercial software that can be downloaded. Payment is
required for legal use of the software. Some authors use the honor
system, more commonly code is included to prevent the use of some or all
functions if payment is not made in accordance with the shareware agreement.

Spyware: software that sends information about you and your computer to
others (usually without your knowledge and consent). Spyware may also
install files on your hard drive without your knowledge.

Trialware: software which stops working after a period of time or number
of uses.

Warez: Software that is stolen, and/or enabled, by illegal means.

</quote>

Susan
 
We do. . .

http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/2004/about2004PL.htm

"The alt.comp.freeware definition of Freeware is: legally obtainable
software that you may use at no cost, monetary or otherwise, for as long
as you wish. When a program does not completely conform to the above
definition the program description will have a special notation. The
program may be liteware, registerware etc. See the Ware Glossary for
definitions of ware types. Licensing information may also be noted. For
example: open source (the source code is available for use and/or
modification), GNU GPL (The GNU General Public License). Other notes
such as "Last available freeware version" may also be present."

Susan
 
Susan said:
We do. . .

http://www.pricelesswarehome.org/2004/about2004PL.htm

"The alt.comp.freeware definition of Freeware is: legally obtainable
software that you may use at no cost, monetary or otherwise, for as long
as you wish. When a program does not completely conform to the above
definition the program description will have a special notation. The
program may be liteware, registerware etc. See the Ware Glossary for
definitions of ware types. Licensing information may also be noted. For
example: open source (the source code is available for use and/or
modification), GNU GPL (The GNU General Public License). Other notes
such as "Last available freeware version" may also be present."

Susan
Maybe forget one "ware "
the Vaporware :d
it s the software who is annonced by someone (a foundation , a compagny
a programmer ... ) but it s never developped :)
so it s mean it s also a freeware :d because cost nothing :d

see yah
 
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