What is a good MicroATX case?

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Justin said:
Gotcha. But I can't seem to find a decent one with good reviews.
How about this, instead of having two internal 3.5" bays for two RAID 1
drives, how about just one internal 3.5" and an external 3.5" and just
but a SATA drive in there. Would that work?




Yes. I will eventually have a hard foam case for it.
At my last job we did something similar, we had a Dell PC that was small
and we used it at trade shows. There was a hard case we sent through
the airport and everything.


I have two SATA hard drives, a PATA DVD-RW drive and an ATX power supply.

I'd keep all the drives inside, if you're going to be moving the
thing around. While some motherboards have ESATA, in some
cases the controller they're connected to, might not be
exactly what you want.

I looked at an Antec NSK3480, but the reviews for that noted problems
installing the optical drive. This apparently doesn't have very strong
side panels, but if you look at the pictures, it is very open inside.

COOLER MASTER Elite 341 RC-341C-KKN1-GP Black Steel MicroATX Mid Tower Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119193

To keep the inside neat and tidy, you could use a supply with
modular cabling. The main power cable and perhaps the ATX12V are
permanently connected, but for the others you can just install
the ones you need. Otherwise, in a small case, you'd have a
"clump" of spare cables dangling in the case.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139001

You can fit 3.5" drives in a 5.25" bay, using adapter brackets.
And there are other gadgets for fitting things like 2.5" drives.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811993004

Paul
 
Steve said:
http://preview.tinyurl.com/mg529t

GIGABYTE GA-MA785GM-US2H AM3/AM2+/AM2 AMD 785G HDMI Micro ATX AMD
Motherboard - Retail
ATI Radeon HD4200, DirectX10.1 and 2 oz copper PCB


http://tinyurl.com/n9eygt

ASUS Rampage II GENE LGA 1366 Intel X58 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard
- Retail
Xtreme Phase w/ ROG Gaming Performance @ Micro ATX size


http://preview.tinyurl.com/nsepaf

Foxconn G45M-S LGA 775 Intel G45 HDMI Micro ATX Intel Motherboard -
Retail

Intel BOXDG45ID LGA 775 Intel G45 Micro ATX Intel Motherboard -
Retail

ASUS P5Q-EM LGA 775 Intel G45 HDMI Micro ATX Intel Motherboard -
Retail

GIGABYTE GA-E7AUM-DS2H LGA 775 NVIDIA GeForce 9400 HDMI Micro ATX
Intel Motherboard - Retail



http://preview.tinyurl.com/lrd46c

COOLER MASTER Elite 360 RC-360-KKN1-GP Black Steel / Plastic ATX Mini
Tower Computer Case - Retail

Thermaltake V9 VJ40001W2Z Black 0.8mm SECC Steel ATX Mini Tower
Computer Case - Retail

LIAN LI PC-A05NB Black Aluminum ATX Mini Tower Computer Case - Retail


Try those.

They work fine, but if I'm going to transport it those ATX cases are too
big.
I'm torn.
 
Paul said:
I'd keep all the drives inside, if you're going to be moving the
thing around. While some motherboards have ESATA, in some
cases the controller they're connected to, might not be
exactly what you want.

I looked at an Antec NSK3480, but the reviews for that noted problems
installing the optical drive. This apparently doesn't have very strong
side panels, but if you look at the pictures, it is very open inside.

I like this Antec better - its smaller.
Think about it - if I have to get a foam box to sio this thing in; the
smaller the better.
COOLER MASTER Elite 341 RC-341C-KKN1-GP Black Steel MicroATX Mid Tower
Computer Case - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811119193

Not bad, but I don't need the extra 5.25" bay.
To keep the inside neat and tidy, you could use a supply with
modular cabling. The main power cable and perhaps the ATX12V are
permanently connected, but for the others you can just install
the ones you need. Otherwise, in a small case, you'd have a
"clump" of spare cables dangling in the case.

Basically what I have now. however I heard that having too many
connections adds resistance to the line and that isn't good.
I'm guessing what little resistance there is on the rails is negligible.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139001

You can fit 3.5" drives in a 5.25" bay, using adapter brackets.
And there are other gadgets for fitting things like 2.5" drives.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811993004

Paul

I've seen those - I had to order about 350 of them when I installed 300
ZIP-100 drives back in 1998.
 
Justin said:
I like this Antec better - its smaller.
Think about it - if I have to get a foam box to sio this thing in; the
smaller the better.

There are smaller motherboards than microATX. But the
thing is, you're pretty well stuck with whatever is
onboard in terms of peripheral interfaces. For example,
I'm having trouble finding Firewire here. These particular
ones are good, because they don't have VIA processors on
them. You still have to find a proper power solution,
and this is the kind of project where it helps to be
able to measure power consumption, to make sure everything
is margined properly. (You don't want to be on the road
somewhere, and the power supply pops because it was
overloaded from day one.)

http://www.mini-itx.com/store/?c=52#9300-ITX

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813500022

They make cases that look like stereo equipment, but
with those, you're restricted on storage devices. Even
the RAM can be special for some of these builds - fortunately,
Kingston has been making low profile RAM (I have some), so
there is more of it around. The low profile RAM is sometimes
needed, to make room for other things in the case. That is how
tiny some of these things are.

http://www.mini-itx.com/store/?c=3

This case uses a slot load (slim) optical drive, presumably one
that runs from +5V only. That is the kind of thing you'd find
in a laptop. If you go with 2.5" hard drives, you might be running
those from +5V as well. This unit has a 200W power supply.
Dimensions 10.6" x 10.4" x 3.5". There is just enough 12V
to run a 65W processor.

Winsis Wi-02 Black SGCC / ABS Mini-ITX Tower Computer Case 200W Power Supply - Retail
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811234021

http://www.winsis.com/ewebeditor/UploadFile/2009210173939387.pdf

You can adapt 2.5" drives to fit a 3.5" bay, with this. The
break-away end plates, hold two drives one above the other.
You may need right angle SATA cables, depending on how
cramped things are.

http://www.startech.com/item/SATA35252X-35-Bay-to-Dual-25-SATA-HDD-Adapter.aspx

I don't know whether I'd want to use a slot load optical drive,
but the case ends up being smaller. It's just a question of
how well the power supply holds up, and what kind of noise
level it produces. (Some small supplies use 40mm fans, and
they can be irritating when the fan spools up.)

This TFX supply looks like it might be a replacement for the
one in that case. One reviewer commented it was a bit wider
than standard. It is a Seasonic 300W and it is 80% efficient.
So this might be a suitable replacement for the one already
in the case.

+3.3V @ 20A, +5V @ 20A , +12V1 @ 18A, +12V2 @ 18A, -12V @ 0.8A, +5VSB @ 2.0A
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817151070

If the mini-ITX motherboard has a PCI Express slot, you
don't plan on adding a video card (as you're power limited),
then the slot can be used for Firewire. This particular card
is more expensive than another one Startech makes, but this
one comes with a low profile faceplate. And you'd likely need
that for this build. Or, you can get the $30 one, and just
bash the faceplate into shape.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815158111&Tpk=PEX1394A2DV

http://www.startech.com/item/PEX1394A2DV-2-Port-PCI-Express-1394a-FireWire-Adapter-Card.aspx

So small is fun, but you need wodges of cash and nerves of
steel, to get the thing built. And on occasion, be familiar
with Dremel, hammer, and tongs, to beat things into shape.

In that build, you'd be using built-in video. And hopefully,
a stock CPU cooler fits in there. Planning is a nightmare,
when they don't provide good documentation.

Paul
 
Steve said:
Well, I don't see much in the way of smaller cases that take a full
sized ATX mb.






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I'm going to post a message on newegg and [H] - see what I come up with.
 
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