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Motor T
If the C: drive goes belly up, won't the other partitions (and the
*image*) be inaccessible?
If the C: drive goes belly up, won't the other partitions (and the
*image*) be inaccessible?
J
J. P. Gilliver (John)
In message <[email protected]>,
For most of the years since I got this one (XP 12" netbook), I've "just
used" it, too. After initially changing to themes (?) I was more used to
(my windows have square corners and three identical-sized
minimise/maximise/close buttons, like 9x did, for example - I can't even
remember how I did that, probably something involving [misuse of] the
word "classic"), and a little judicious use of TweakUI, I haven't done
much. (For news and email, I'm using Turnpike, which stopped development
in 2007 - started under Windows 3.1!)
I can't remember why I moved to XP - I think it was that I wanted a
newer machine and had decided to go for something portable, and had
limited choice: I know I was slightly rushed as XP _on new machines_ was
on the way out at that time. I'd waited a year or two to make up my mind
- also rushed because the long-service-award preloaded card I'd been
given wasn't far off expiring. I'd say the main _initial_ improvement
over 9x was not having to find a driver for every new USB stick I used,
but I also got used to the - then - much wider selection of freeware
available. And - grudgingly! - I've got to admit that, for me, it _is_
more stable than 9x: I've not had a crash for years that I couldn't
recover from (I'm certainly on the original install, which came -
already XP3 - with the machine).
I don't remember being bothered by an excess of those; what I didn't
like was superficial things, mainly the increase in colours and such
that made it look more like a child's toy. But (a) that has been the
case 3.1-95-98-XP at least (somewhat less so with 7 I'd say, and 8 is
very different altogether _in default appearance_), and (b) that can
usually been fixable fairly simply.
I have a 7 machine - for speed and Skype, and so that I have _some_ idea
when I'm supporting various friends (including three blind ones: you
think _you_'ve got problems!) - but come back to this XP one, which I
"just use", as you do your 98 one. (I also have a 98 one which I
occasionally use.)
I'm finding more often than not that I mark a Paul post as "keep" (-:!
Those've stopped now anyway, apart from AIUI signature files for MSE
(unless you've done the hack from XP Guy [is that 98 Guy! I think so!]
to make your system look like a POS. [Yes, OK ... a POS _terminal_
then.])
I'm _close_ to that: if I can find something (like TweakUI) that'll do
them for me, I will, though I will do reg. tweaks if I'm fairly sure
what they do (usually from something someone's posted here: I don't
think I've ever gone to find one on my own. Apart from, occasionally,
doing a removal of software that hasn't removed properly, by searching
the registry for all occurrences of its name and its maker's name, but
that's very tedious, and I usually don't bother [I have Revo, which is
pretty good]).
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Any chance the other one wasn't?
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Small C: for OS (and in my case software), big D: for data?
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Then don't look at it (-:. Basically, just accept that - unless you've a
brain the size of a planet - you'll never understand how XP does a lot
of what it does, just let it do it. (Actually, although you don't think
you are, you're in that situation with 98: there are bits of it you
don't mess with [probably the Windows directory and its subdirectories,
for example], though this is by now such second nature to you that you
don't realise it.)
No. I've never reinstalled this one since I had it. Out of interest, I
recently reactivated an ancient machine, more out of curiosity than
anything else: it has a 6G hard disc! But I didn't _reinstall_ XP on it,
just (added some RAM - without that it _would_ have been painful) let it
rip with the upgrades, and it's now a usable XP SP3 machine. (OK, it
can't play some videos usably - but it's only a 400MHz processor, what
do you expect!). (The disc's about ¾ full, and I did have to delete some
of the undo-updates-allowing files, which I felt reasonably happy about
doing as the updates had been out for some time.)
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Yes, it gets old very fast.
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I'm the same with this XP one, except (especially since I've turned off
Firefox's updates at 25.0.1) I haven't had to have _that_ much of a
battle with browsers.
I've never had an infection. I scan everything before installing it
(Firefox doesn't _have_ a "Run" option for downloads, only Save and
Cancel), even though I _think_ it gets scanned by Firefox/Avira at the
end of the download anyway. I was going to say that includes anything
anyone emails me, but I can't remember the last time anyone did that
anyway.
Indeed (-:.
Me too: AVG on the '9x, then (because I'm petty about how AVG blotted
their copybook with their farewell to '9x) Avira on here. (My -
refurbished - 7 machine came with AVG, and to be fair that seems to work
OK there [it's certainly faster at doing a scan of a file than Avira is,
since Avira takes ages to start when I' do that here].)
That _is_ a problem. Though it'd mean you're a _few_ days behind, maybe
you can find one that allows updates - to the signature files at least -
from other than online, so you could get them on your occasional visits
to the library? I don't know if any of them do that: I know McAfee,
which I used to have many years ago since their contract with my
employer allowed it, did (I think that was before I had broadband and I
downloaded the updates at work - using a CD-RW, which usually worked
long enough to bring them home).
Several of us think that if you stop fiddling with it it'll be OK (-:.
I've never got into Linux (other than when I don't know I'm using it,
such as some recovery utilities, and possibly when I'm using certain
home appliances - such as a PVR - which probably use it). I _did_ use
UNIX back at university around 1980, which was mostly command-line then:
things like "blah blah -f | grep this > that" - the command line _is_
very powerful, if your mind's up to it, and I'm not sure mine is any
more either! (In those days I could carry on two or three conversations
at once. Not sure I could now.)
Have you _ever_ made a successful CD - not necessarily a bootable one,
just one with text files or pictures on, or even an audio one?
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Don't be so litigious ... (-:
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This _is_ one of the many very odd things about your system/setup,
especially if you're using an external MoDem connected via a serial
port.
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For most of the years since I got this one (XP 12" netbook), I've "just
used" it, too. After initially changing to themes (?) I was more used to
(my windows have square corners and three identical-sized
minimise/maximise/close buttons, like 9x did, for example - I can't even
remember how I did that, probably something involving [misuse of] the
word "classic"), and a little judicious use of TweakUI, I haven't done
much. (For news and email, I'm using Turnpike, which stopped development
in 2007 - started under Windows 3.1!)
I can't remember why I moved to XP - I think it was that I wanted a
newer machine and had decided to go for something portable, and had
limited choice: I know I was slightly rushed as XP _on new machines_ was
on the way out at that time. I'd waited a year or two to make up my mind
- also rushed because the long-service-award preloaded card I'd been
given wasn't far off expiring. I'd say the main _initial_ improvement
over 9x was not having to find a driver for every new USB stick I used,
but I also got used to the - then - much wider selection of freeware
available. And - grudgingly! - I've got to admit that, for me, it _is_
more stable than 9x: I've not had a crash for years that I couldn't
recover from (I'm certainly on the original install, which came -
already XP3 - with the machine).
I don't remember being bothered by an excess of those; what I didn't
like was superficial things, mainly the increase in colours and such
that made it look more like a child's toy. But (a) that has been the
case 3.1-95-98-XP at least (somewhat less so with 7 I'd say, and 8 is
very different altogether _in default appearance_), and (b) that can
usually been fixable fairly simply.
I have a 7 machine - for speed and Skype, and so that I have _some_ idea
when I'm supporting various friends (including three blind ones: you
think _you_'ve got problems!) - but come back to this XP one, which I
"just use", as you do your 98 one. (I also have a 98 one which I
occasionally use.)
I'm finding more often than not that I mark a Paul post as "keep" (-:!
Those've stopped now anyway, apart from AIUI signature files for MSE
(unless you've done the hack from XP Guy [is that 98 Guy! I think so!]
to make your system look like a POS. [Yes, OK ... a POS _terminal_
then.])
I'm _close_ to that: if I can find something (like TweakUI) that'll do
them for me, I will, though I will do reg. tweaks if I'm fairly sure
what they do (usually from something someone's posted here: I don't
think I've ever gone to find one on my own. Apart from, occasionally,
doing a removal of software that hasn't removed properly, by searching
the registry for all occurrences of its name and its maker's name, but
that's very tedious, and I usually don't bother [I have Revo, which is
pretty good]).
[]
Any chance the other one wasn't?
[]
Small C: for OS (and in my case software), big D: for data?
[]
Then don't look at it (-:. Basically, just accept that - unless you've a
brain the size of a planet - you'll never understand how XP does a lot
of what it does, just let it do it. (Actually, although you don't think
you are, you're in that situation with 98: there are bits of it you
don't mess with [probably the Windows directory and its subdirectories,
for example], though this is by now such second nature to you that you
don't realise it.)
No. I've never reinstalled this one since I had it. Out of interest, I
recently reactivated an ancient machine, more out of curiosity than
anything else: it has a 6G hard disc! But I didn't _reinstall_ XP on it,
just (added some RAM - without that it _would_ have been painful) let it
rip with the upgrades, and it's now a usable XP SP3 machine. (OK, it
can't play some videos usably - but it's only a 400MHz processor, what
do you expect!). (The disc's about ¾ full, and I did have to delete some
of the undo-updates-allowing files, which I felt reasonably happy about
doing as the updates had been out for some time.)
[]
Yes, it gets old very fast.
[]
I'm the same with this XP one, except (especially since I've turned off
Firefox's updates at 25.0.1) I haven't had to have _that_ much of a
battle with browsers.
I've never had an infection. I scan everything before installing it
(Firefox doesn't _have_ a "Run" option for downloads, only Save and
Cancel), even though I _think_ it gets scanned by Firefox/Avira at the
end of the download anyway. I was going to say that includes anything
anyone emails me, but I can't remember the last time anyone did that
anyway.
Indeed (-:.
Me too: AVG on the '9x, then (because I'm petty about how AVG blotted
their copybook with their farewell to '9x) Avira on here. (My -
refurbished - 7 machine came with AVG, and to be fair that seems to work
OK there [it's certainly faster at doing a scan of a file than Avira is,
since Avira takes ages to start when I' do that here].)
That _is_ a problem. Though it'd mean you're a _few_ days behind, maybe
you can find one that allows updates - to the signature files at least -
from other than online, so you could get them on your occasional visits
to the library? I don't know if any of them do that: I know McAfee,
which I used to have many years ago since their contract with my
employer allowed it, did (I think that was before I had broadband and I
downloaded the updates at work - using a CD-RW, which usually worked
long enough to bring them home).
Several of us think that if you stop fiddling with it it'll be OK (-:.
I've never got into Linux (other than when I don't know I'm using it,
such as some recovery utilities, and possibly when I'm using certain
home appliances - such as a PVR - which probably use it). I _did_ use
UNIX back at university around 1980, which was mostly command-line then:
things like "blah blah -f | grep this > that" - the command line _is_
very powerful, if your mind's up to it, and I'm not sure mine is any
more either! (In those days I could carry on two or three conversations
at once. Not sure I could now.)
Have you _ever_ made a successful CD - not necessarily a bootable one,
just one with text files or pictures on, or even an audio one?
[]
Don't be so litigious ... (-:
[]
This _is_ one of the many very odd things about your system/setup,
especially if you're using an external MoDem connected via a serial
port.
[][]
J
J. P. Gilliver (John)
In message <[email protected]>,
Then, to use one of your favourite words, you're f**ked, as far as a
large proportion of the internet - or at least web - is concerned. So
many web page designers don't seem to even think about those with slow
connections: they put so much into their web pages that often isn't even
visible, and the appearance of the page wouldn't be any different if it
wasn't there. I don't just mean things like trackers - those don't
actually involve much data: I just mean lazy and/or sloppy web coding
(combined with a disregard for those on slow connections, such as only
putting buttons with no ALT= text, and only huge pictures [let alone
videos]).
Another poster has said he'd found (and he named) three at less than $60
a month - any good? Where actually are you, and I quite understand if
you don't want to answer that?
you know what _their_ connection is, who provides it, etc.? (How far
away from you is the library and the other such places you've
mentioned?)
[Is there any possibility you could move (-:?]
Then, to use one of your favourite words, you're f**ked, as far as a
large proportion of the internet - or at least web - is concerned. So
many web page designers don't seem to even think about those with slow
connections: they put so much into their web pages that often isn't even
visible, and the appearance of the page wouldn't be any different if it
wasn't there. I don't just mean things like trackers - those don't
actually involve much data: I just mean lazy and/or sloppy web coding
(combined with a disregard for those on slow connections, such as only
putting buttons with no ALT= text, and only huge pictures [let alone
videos]).
Another poster has said he'd found (and he named) three at less than $60
a month - any good? Where actually are you, and I quite understand if
you don't want to answer that?
You occasionally mention going to the library and using their link: do
you know what _their_ connection is, who provides it, etc.? (How far
away from you is the library and the other such places you've
mentioned?)
[Is there any possibility you could move (-:?]
J
J. P. Gilliver (John)
In message <[email protected]>, Bill in Co
All good advice, and with which I'd agree - except that: to actually
_use_ any backup he'd created, he'd need to have some sort of bootable
media (CD or whatever) to invoke it from, and I _think_ he hasn't yet
managed to make any bootable CD.
I suspect not - or, at least, it'd require at least as much learning.
And given his frustration in learning XP, which has at least some
similarities to the 98 (and especially 2000) he's used to, I think a
whole new ball game wouldn't be a good idea. (Having said that, I
haven't actually used any of the GUI Linuxes, so don't _know_ they're
that different from Windows - but I suspect they are, whatever Linux
enthusiasts say to the contrary. [I refuse to use the word fanboi,
except in this sentence, since I dislike mockery in any form {I see it
as a variant of bullying}.])
Indeed (-:.
And you _can_ move things like "My Documents" (off C: in my case, and I
ditched the "My"!), in a way that the system will acknowledge. (In the
case of that one, right-click the desktop shortcut, Properties, [Target
tab if not already on it,] type in new location, Move.)
All good advice, and with which I'd agree - except that: to actually
_use_ any backup he'd created, he'd need to have some sort of bootable
media (CD or whatever) to invoke it from, and I _think_ he hasn't yet
managed to make any bootable CD.
I suspect not - or, at least, it'd require at least as much learning.
And given his frustration in learning XP, which has at least some
similarities to the 98 (and especially 2000) he's used to, I think a
whole new ball game wouldn't be a good idea. (Having said that, I
haven't actually used any of the GUI Linuxes, so don't _know_ they're
that different from Windows - but I suspect they are, whatever Linux
enthusiasts say to the contrary. [I refuse to use the word fanboi,
except in this sentence, since I dislike mockery in any form {I see it
as a variant of bullying}.])
Indeed (-:.
much easier just living with them, rather than trying to eliminating them
and living with the potential consequences. Ditto on registry edits - one
has to be pretty careful. Some Acceptance is the key.(when I first
used XP, I used to get a bit upset at where it installed some programs and
the settings, etc - but I finally gave in, as life is easier that way.
And you _can_ move things like "My Documents" (off C: in my case, and I
ditched the "My"!), in a way that the system will acknowledge. (In the
case of that one, right-click the desktop shortcut, Properties, [Target
tab if not already on it,] type in new location, Move.)
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J
J. P. Gilliver (John)
In message <[email protected]>, Motor T <[email protected]>
writes:
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Yes, if the _drive_ dies. I think whoever you're quoting (you snipped
the attribution) did say, elsewhere, "or ideally on another disc", or
similar words.
But most of us think Casey's problems are caused by Casey tweaking
something he shouldn't and thus "breaking" the OS that way, rather than
hardware faults - in which case a backup/image/whatever _would_ let him
undo whatever he's done, more quickly than starting from scratch all
over again (assuming he's managed to make something that lets him invoke
the restore process).
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J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
A biochemist walks into a student bar and says to the barman: "I'd like a pint
of adenosine triphosphate, please." "Certainly," says the barman, "that'll be
ATP." (Quoted in) The Independent, 2013-7-13
writes:
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Yes, if the _drive_ dies. I think whoever you're quoting (you snipped
the attribution) did say, elsewhere, "or ideally on another disc", or
similar words.
But most of us think Casey's problems are caused by Casey tweaking
something he shouldn't and thus "breaking" the OS that way, rather than
hardware faults - in which case a backup/image/whatever _would_ let him
undo whatever he's done, more quickly than starting from scratch all
over again (assuming he's managed to make something that lets him invoke
the restore process).
--
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf
A biochemist walks into a student bar and says to the barman: "I'd like a pint
of adenosine triphosphate, please." "Certainly," says the barman, "that'll be
ATP." (Quoted in) The Independent, 2013-7-13