vista's mistake

[Justin]

Nope, him and you are completely wrong:

"Instead we get a rehash of previous versions with a a service pack (that
should of been for XP), some tweaks, a nice gui/skin and lots more DRM."

That's pure nonsense.

 

[Saran]

Nope, him and you are completely wrong:

"Instead we get a rehash of previous versions with a a service pack
(that should of been for XP), some tweaks, a nice gui/skin and lots
more DRM."
That's pure nonsense.

Like hell it is.

Go int oclassic mode. Look around at all the carry overs (some dialogs
and screens go as far back as Win 3.x.) The Aero Glass is just an
eloborate skin, akin to WinBlinds on XP. Add to that extra DRM and a few
extras like gadets and that's all there is to it.

Stop kidding yourself as to what Vista really is. a Bloated step up (or
down) from XP with extras thrown in just to make people like yourself
think it's a brand new OS.

Deep down it isn't much more of a leap from XP/2003 then XP was from
2000. New GUI and other perks (and quirks.)

 

[Justin]

Very good! Vista has new graphics. Well, at least we know you aren't
blind!

If that's all you think it has then like I said, "pure nonsense."

 

[Saran]

You still don't get it. You just follow what you hear from the media and
completely ignore those who have spent a great deal of time with the
guts of the OS and you want to say you know better. Good for you. It's
you people like you that keep Microsoft in business.

 

[Steve K.]

Very good! Vista has new graphics. Well, at least we know you aren't
blind!

If that's all you think it has then like I said, "pure nonsense."

You sir, are a blind ignorant fool if you think there is anything truly
new and revolutionary in Vista. Some of us in the IT field who work with
such systems, serviceing them and performing many deep down technical
tasks actually know what we are talking about, unlike you, the average
pawn of Redmond.

 

[Justin]

Both of you are idiots.

1. I never used the word revolutionary. Either link us to my quote or stfu.

2. Courtesy of Paul Smith:

1) New fonts, much easier on the eyes.
2) Restore previous versions of files (volume shadow copies).
3) Far better security, user rights being used, address space randomization
on boot etc.
4) UI rendered through DirectX (no tearing windows anymore when you drag em
around!)
5) Search, being able to save search results as virtual folders, network
searching.
6) Offline files that take seconds to sync, and does it without annoying
you.
7) Windows Mail has these groups all set to go.
8) Diagnostics, loads of them can keep you busy for ages.
9) IPv6 and IPv6 over IPv4, brand new network stack, makes communicating
behind a NAT easier.
10) New faster audio stack.
11) New driver model, puts more drivers into user mode so they don't bring
down the system if they crash.
12) Ad Hoc networking support, in Meeting Space and available to 3rd
parties.
13) Photo Gallery, plus image tagging that isn't in a separate database but
stored in the files themselves so you don't need to retag them on different
machines.
14) Networking is easy to set up now.
15) Parental Controls, great for locking down what your parents (or
children) can break on their systems and for seeing what they've been up to.
16) Multiple clocks.
17) Sidebar.
18) Superfetch pages applications into memory so they start up instantly,
ReadyBoost and ReadyDrive too.
19) Speech recognition now built in.
20) Tablet features now built in, you can even use a regular drawing tablet
to unlock the hand writing recognition and all that.

Some of us in the IT field who work with such systems, serviceing them and
performing many deep down technical tasks actually know what we are
talking about, unlike you, the average pawn of Redmond.

If you're in the IT field and you think Vista is a nothing more then a new
theme then....THANK GOD you never walked through my office.

Just to put it on record:

These IT "pros" claim Vista is just a new theme:

Saran
Steve K.

Hey Steve and Saran. Care to tag your last names on your wisdom?

 

[Steve K.]

2. Courtesy of Paul Smith:

1) New fonts, much easier on the eyes.

New my ass, it's the same smoothing you can turn on in XP.

2) Restore previous versions of files (volume shadow copies).

Also been around.

3) Far better security, user rights being used, address space
randomization on boot etc.

Better seems to be a relative term.

4) UI rendered through DirectX (no tearing windows anymore when you
drag em around!)

Only in the Aero GUI, not in classic mode. In 3D mode it significantly
slows thme down and thus slows the user down.

5) Search, being able to save search results as virtual folders,
network searching.

Not new.

6) Offline files that take seconds to sync, and does it without
annoying you.

Again, this is not new, just something that should of bene fixed long
ago.

7) Windows Mail has these groups all set to go.

Outlook Express + muhc needed service pack + defaults setup for you

8) Diagnostics, loads of them can keep you busy for ages.

Developement and Resource kits are also nothing new...

9) IPv6 and IPv6 over IPv4, brand new network stack, makes
communicating behind a NAT easier.

Again, NOT NEW... sigh

10) New faster audio stack.

Depends GREATLY on the audio hardware used... soem machiens we've worked
with had serious stuttering issues... the same hardware had NO issues in
XP what so ever.

11) New driver model, puts more drivers into user mode so they don't
bring down the system if they crash.

And thus some brokes either wont install properly and many that do just
cause all sorts of problems and end up being severly broken.

12) Ad Hoc networking support, in Meeting Space and available to 3rd
parties.
13) Photo Gallery, plus image tagging that isn't in a separate
database but stored in the files themselves so you don't need to
retag them on different machines.
14) Networking is easy to set up now.

15) Parental Controls, great for locking down what your parents (or
children) can break on their systems and for seeing what they've been
up to.

A virtually useless feature... one that is in constant conflict with
what should be one properly creted User/Group/Privliage management
model...

16) Multiple clocks.
Extras...

17) Sidebar.

Extras... google "widgets" and "multiple clocks"

18) Superfetch pages applications into memory so they start up
instantly, ReadyBoost and ReadyDrive too.

And enough of thme suck ram absolutely dry... a new dual or mroe core
system with mroe thna 2 gigs of ram shouldn't need that anyways, or
something is really wrong with it.

19) Speech recognition now built in.

christ... have you ACTUALLY tested it? I know it sounds like I'm being
overly negative, but this is the worst one I've EVER tested. How do you
get "flight check" from saying "right click" (and yes I spoke clear and
concisely.)

20) Tablet features now built in, you can even use a regular drawing
tablet to unlock the hand writing recognition and all that.

XP Tablet additions has been around...

If you're in the IT field and you think Vista is a nothing more then
a new theme then....THANK GOD you never walked through my office.

Well if you rather have ignorant peons workign for you, then go ahead
and go with the attitudes you're presenting.

The people with brains know full well what Vista really is. And nothing
you listed is new. It's just a collection of either extras that have
been ripped off from what has been available on the web for some time,
or what should of been fixed long ago in XP and prior versions.

Vista is just an excuse to make more money off the lemmings who get off
on shiny objects.

Sorry, I'd go with an OS, such as XP or 2003, that actually runs full
open throttle on dual or more core hardware, rather than just
"'adequately' -PC World"

 

[Justin]

New my ass, it's the same smoothing you can turn on in XP.

Do you see the word smoothing in my post? Where is it? What the hell are
you talking about? Learn to read.

Also been around.

WRONG! Shadow copy is a feature of W2K3. Not XP. XP can use W2K3's shadow
copy while networked. Vista uses it all on it's own.

Only in the Aero GUI, not in classic mode. In 3D mode it significantly
slows thme down and thus slows the user down.

1. Duh! Of course it's only in Aero.
2. It absolutely does NOT slow it down. In the case of poor drivers, yes.
Otherwise no.

Not new.

XP does not have virtual folders or instant search, David Spencer Hines!
You are wrong again.

.....I'm done with that. All you're doing is rebutting with, "not new."
What a genius you are!

 

[Steve K.]

Do you see the word smoothing in my post? Where is it? What the
hell are you talking about? Learn to read.

Because I know what Vista uses you twit, and it's the same damn thing.

WRONG! Shadow copy is a feature of W2K3. Not XP. XP can use W2K3's
shadow copy while networked. Vista uses it all on it's own.

I said "Also been around", not "Also been around in XP"... learn to
read. You even COMPLETELY contradict yourself saying "Shadow copy is a
feature of W2K3", so clearly not "WRONG!", and in fact made my point for
me.

1. Duh! Of course it's only in Aero.
2. It absolutely does NOT slow it down. In the case of poor drivers,
yes. Otherwise no.

Poor drivers? Most are still in BETA for starters. And if you think the
3D GUI uses LESS resources then you really need to start learning about
how computers work.

XP does not have virtual folders or instant search, David Spencer
Hines! You are wrong again.

I havenot bene wrong yet. I said "Not new", and this is true. Many third
party applications have been available that do this far better than
Vista. Credit for Vista for trying though.

....I'm done with that. All you're doing is rebutting with, "not
new." What a genius you are!

And you keep missing the point and stumbling on your self, and even
prove my points for me. What a genius you are!

 

[Justin]

Because I know what Vista uses you twit, and it's the same damn thing.

If you're so dimwitted that you don't understand what a NEW FONT is then
there is no point in talking to you.

I said "Also been around", not "Also been around in XP"... learn to

In that case, you're just a damn fool. If you can't stay within scope of
the topic then, again, there is no point in talking to you. You're just
making things up to prove your own point. Vista versus XP, not Vista versus
ALL OTHER OSs even none client ones.

Poor drivers? Most are still in BETA for starters. And if you think the 3D
GUI uses LESS resources then you really need to start learning about how
computers work.

Who said less resources? Again, learn to read. Why are you making things
up? Why do you consitantly put additional words into a conversation? We
discussed SLOWER. Not more resources. Go back and read.

I havenot bene wrong yet. I said "Not new", and this is true. Many third
party applications have been available that do this far better than Vista.
Credit for Vista for trying though.

Again, read above. Vista versus XP. If you want to have a Vista versus
Linux or Mac conversation then knock yourself out.

And you keep missing the point and stumbling on your self, and even prove
my points for me. What a genius you are!

Not really, read above. Vista versus XP. Oh, and please either use your
own words or properly quote me!

From your buddy Saran:

"...what Vista really is. a Bloated step up (or
down) from XP with extras thrown in just to make people like yourself
think it's a brand new OS."

So again, Vista versus XP. Let us know when you're done wiping the egg off
your face.

Troll on....

 

[Conor]

Like hell it is.

Go int oclassic mode. Look around at all the carry overs (some dialogs
and screens go as far back as Win 3.x.) The Aero Glass is just an
eloborate skin, akin to WinBlinds on XP. Add to that extra DRM and a few
extras like gadets and that's all there is to it.

Stop kidding yourself as to what Vista really is. a Bloated step up (or
down) from XP with extras thrown in just to make people like yourself
think it's a brand new OS.

Deep down it isn't much more of a leap from XP/2003 then XP was from
2000. New GUI and other perks (and quirks.)

Now go do some homework, retard, about how the OS operates at low
level.

 

[Conor]

You sir, are a blind ignorant fool if you think there is anything truly
new and revolutionary in Vista. Some of us in the IT field who work with
such systems, serviceing them and performing many deep down technical
tasks actually know what we are talking about, unlike you, the average
pawn of Redmond.

So if you're so ****ing clever...

Why don't some XP programs function correctly in Vista? Why don't XP
drivers work in Vista? Why did nearly all antivirus applications need
to be rewritten?

 

[Conor]

'Sorry, I'd go with an OS, such as XP or 2003, that actually runs full
open throttle on dual or more core hardware, rather than just
"'adequately' -PC World"

ROFLMFAO. Someone who quotes Pissy World as a defence of their
argument instantly loses all credibility.

 

[Alias]

ROFLMFAO. Someone who quotes Pissy World as a defence of their
argument instantly loses all credibility.

Is there *anyone* for whom you don't have an insult handy?

Alias

 

[Justin]

Stay on topic alias. Either contribute or zip it.

 

[Alias]

Stay on topic alias.

I am.

Either contribute

I did.

 

[Justin]

Stay on topic alias. Either contribute or zip it.

 

[Alias]

Stay on topic alias. Either contribute or zip it.

Got a reading comprehension problem? I already addressed this.

Alias

 

[Justin]

You addressed it with your usual BS.

Now, stay on topic alias. Either contribute or zip it.

 

[Alias]

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