Vista Wireless Internet Connections

[Guest]

This is a known KB article isn't it?
926180 I think, I have it here..

I tried it and it clears the static IPs, but if I go back to static (after
getting a DHCP addy) I get the list of 3 or 4 static ones back.
Sometimes only after rebooting the machine.

It isn't a major issue BUT it is important for a laptop like mine where I
change IP address often, and use the IP address to determine a route thru a
network.

Ie 192.168.2.251 uses one route, 192.168.2.210 goes another.
In XP this works fine, in Vista it is very hit and miss as to which IP I
will end up with.
And this is not workable if I want to test a specific route.

But thanks for the input.

However - there is still something crooked about Vista and networking IMO.

start menu, run
nvcpa.cpl [enter]
ack the UAC prompt
right click the connectoid, properties
TCP/IPv4
in the general tab, make everything dynamic
in the alternate config tab, remove entriesand check automatic

does this clear it for you?

This is from the Vista machine on the wireless so you can see with static ip
it works ATM

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Bill>ipconfig/all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Bill-Sony
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network
Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-19-D2-6E-xxxx
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::b994:4f3:6e0a:e53d%18(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.110(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.251(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.179
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

 

[Barb Bowman]

that KB doesn't address the ones that you've removed and not
reconfigured "returning on their own".

This is a known KB article isn't it?
926180 I think, I have it here..

I tried it and it clears the static IPs, but if I go back to static (after
getting a DHCP addy) I get the list of 3 or 4 static ones back.
Sometimes only after rebooting the machine.

It isn't a major issue BUT it is important for a laptop like mine where I
change IP address often, and use the IP address to determine a route thru a
network.

Ie 192.168.2.251 uses one route, 192.168.2.210 goes another.
In XP this works fine, in Vista it is very hit and miss as to which IP I
will end up with.
And this is not workable if I want to test a specific route.

But thanks for the input.

However - there is still something crooked about Vista and networking IMO.

start menu, run
nvcpa.cpl [enter]
ack the UAC prompt
right click the connectoid, properties
TCP/IPv4
in the general tab, make everything dynamic
in the alternate config tab, remove entriesand check automatic

does this clear it for you?

This is from the Vista machine on the wireless so you can see with static ip
it works ATM

Microsoft Windows [Version 6.0.6000]
Copyright (c) 2006 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved.

C:\Users\Bill>ipconfig/all

Windows IP Configuration

Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : Bill-Sony
Primary Dns Suffix . . . . . . . :
Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No

Wireless LAN adapter Wireless Network Connection:

Connection-specific DNS Suffix . :
Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) PRO/Wireless 3945ABG Network
Connection
Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-19-D2-6E-xxxx
DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
Link-local IPv6 Address . . . . . : fe80::b994:4f3:6e0a:e53d%18(Preferred)
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.0.1(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.110(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.251(Preferred)
Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.10
DNS Servers . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.2.179
NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled

--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
Expert Zone & Vista Community Columnist
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/

 

[Guest]

Ok, I think you wrote nvcpa.cpl wrong.
But in the wireless connection settings I can make everything automatic.
And in the alt config also automatic.

I then can get a DHPC addy from one of my local APs..
When I return to a static address, the previous static addys are gone.

But when I reboot the computer all the previous statcic IPs I listed above
are BACK!

SO - somewhere they are still being remembered..

that KB doesn't address the ones that you've removed and not
reconfigured "returning on their own".

This is a known KB article isn't it?
926180 I think, I have it here..

I tried it and it clears the static IPs, but if I go back to static (after
getting a DHCP addy) I get the list of 3 or 4 static ones back.
Sometimes only after rebooting the machine.

It isn't a major issue BUT it is important for a laptop like mine where I
change IP address often, and use the IP address to determine a route thru a
network.

Ie 192.168.2.251 uses one route, 192.168.2.210 goes another.
In XP this works fine, in Vista it is very hit and miss as to which IP I
will end up with.
And this is not workable if I want to test a specific route.

But thanks for the input.

However - there is still something crooked about Vista and networking IMO.

start menu, run
nvcpa.cpl [enter]
ack the UAC prompt
right click the connectoid, properties
TCP/IPv4
in the general tab, make everything dynamic
in the alternate config tab, remove entriesand check automatic

does this clear it for you?

 

[Barb Bowman]

yeah. no V in ncpa.cpl

have you tried removing the NIC in device manager, rebooting and
setting up again after it is redetected?

Ok, I think you wrote nvcpa.cpl wrong.
But in the wireless connection settings I can make everything automatic.
And in the alt config also automatic.

I then can get a DHPC addy from one of my local APs..
When I return to a static address, the previous static addys are gone.

But when I reboot the computer all the previous statcic IPs I listed above
are BACK!

SO - somewhere they are still being remembered..

that KB doesn't address the ones that you've removed and not
reconfigured "returning on their own".

This is a known KB article isn't it?
926180 I think, I have it here..

I tried it and it clears the static IPs, but if I go back to static (after
getting a DHCP addy) I get the list of 3 or 4 static ones back.
Sometimes only after rebooting the machine.

It isn't a major issue BUT it is important for a laptop like mine where I
change IP address often, and use the IP address to determine a route thru a
network.

Ie 192.168.2.251 uses one route, 192.168.2.210 goes another.
In XP this works fine, in Vista it is very hit and miss as to which IP I
will end up with.
And this is not workable if I want to test a specific route.

But thanks for the input.

However - there is still something crooked about Vista and networking IMO.

:

start menu, run
nvcpa.cpl [enter]
ack the UAC prompt
right click the connectoid, properties
TCP/IPv4
in the general tab, make everything dynamic
in the alternate config tab, remove entriesand check automatic

does this clear it for you?

--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
Expert Zone & Vista Community Columnist
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/

 

[Guest]

a) I did as you said and DHCP an addy. The static addies went.
BUT on reboot I now have FOUR !!!!

b) I have already tried removing the wireless adaptor in device manager (one
of the first things I tried) and rebooting...

I'm a bit stumpted...

Cheers.

 

[Barb Bowman]

well, since there is a KB that refers to this without stating it is
a bug, it's unlikely there is a transparent solution. if it were me,
I'd go hunting in the registry for addresses and see what I could
find. If I elected to edit the registry, I'd export the key(s)
before doing any surgery.

a) I did as you said and DHCP an addy. The static addies went.
BUT on reboot I now have FOUR !!!!

b) I have already tried removing the wireless adaptor in device manager (one
of the first things I tried) and rebooting...

I'm a bit stumpted...

Cheers.

--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
Expert Zone & Vista Community Columnist
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/

 

[Guest]

Ok, thanks.

But

a) if I find these IP addresses in the reg, and delete them, unless I delete
the key that causes them to be remembered they will reappear as I use them
again

b) needle in a haystack comes to mind !

c) I should not really have to regedit at this level....

d) however I may have a look and see what the IPs are related to, which may
give a clue as to what is causing this retention of static IPs .... note as I
say that XP copes with this changing of IPs fine.

e) I am still convinced there is something seriously wrong with Vista here...

 

[Guest]

HERE are the reg entries with the IP addresses....
IF I just delete the IPs I assume they will just come back...
(I HAVE ADDED the IP after each Reg entry just to make it clear)


HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces\{00D5505C-3868-4932-B7E3-EC9770628814}

IP 192.168.2.191

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces\{1C948BDB-6672-4D66-9B7C-40EBEBE9B007}

IP 192.168.1.44

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces\{571CEAE7-7374-465A-9A98-27CAC2F5489B}

IP 169.254.140.55

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces\{6B0FA674-6334-4A09-8269-F551C04A04AC}

IP 192.168.0.110

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces\{9E585C02-CA06-44A9-A73C-E458D469AA33}

IP 192.168.2.193

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces\{DE43C166-9EA4-4420-A721-DD64710855D5}

IP 192.168.2.252

Does this provide any clues please?

 

[Barb Bowman]

These would not be static IPs - did you actually set up these
addresses?

I'm more inclined to think this is related to
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/928233/en-us

HERE are the reg entries with the IP addresses....
IF I just delete the IPs I assume they will just come back...
(I HAVE ADDED the IP after each Reg entry just to make it clear)


HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces\{00D5505C-3868-4932-B7E3-EC9770628814}

IP 192.168.2.191

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces\{1C948BDB-6672-4D66-9B7C-40EBEBE9B007}

IP 192.168.1.44

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces\{571CEAE7-7374-465A-9A98-27CAC2F5489B}

IP 169.254.140.55

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces\{6B0FA674-6334-4A09-8269-F551C04A04AC}

IP 192.168.0.110

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces\{9E585C02-CA06-44A9-A73C-E458D469AA33}

IP 192.168.2.193

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\Tcpip\Parameters\Interfaces\{DE43C166-9EA4-4420-A721-DD64710855D5}

IP 192.168.2.252

Does this provide any clues please?

--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
Expert Zone & Vista Community Columnist
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/

 

[Guest]

Actually except the 169 addy I set up all these as static in the connection
parameters.

SO HOW do I get the computer to FORGET them!!

 

[Barb Bowman]

if it were ME, I'd go way back to a restore point before I started
configuring statics. Then I'd edit the registry for the DHCP
broadcast fix.

If THAT didn't work,

I'd set a restore point, then I'd export these one at a time, and
then I'd delete them. Then I'd delete the NIC in device manager, do
a cold shut down, and power on again.

I don't guarantee that this will work or that your computer won't
self destruct in 10 seconds, but...

Actually except the 169 addy I set up all these as static in the connection
parameters.

SO HOW do I get the computer to FORGET them!!

--

Barb Bowman
MS Windows-MVP
Expert Zone & Vista Community Columnist
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/expertzone/meetexperts/bowman.mspx
http://blogs.digitalmediaphile.com/barb/

 

[Guest]

Good plan..

BUT .. as I said, I use static IPs to determine thew route over a network
(of routers).

Thus one of the first things I did was configure static IPs ;-))

There must be (either now or in the future) some way to stop Vista
remembering statics .... XP copes with it.

Maybe I will try the DHCP reg fix but ...............