Vista Victims of the world unite...

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Send a powerful message to Microsoft that you will not tolerate
trash products of "beta" quality = vista

Return your copy of vista and ask for a refund now.
If it came preinstalled with your PC, demand the ventor to change it to XP,
Just as you should demand a replacement if a hardware was malfunctioning,
the same applies to the OS.

thank you
 
No offence, but I personally like vista better then XP. With the added security features, it keeps my children safe and allows them to go to bed at a decent hour. I don't use to many old programs, so I have not had the issues others have had. The wife and I really like the search features. Makes finding things a lot easier.

With that in mind, I think I will keep my copy of Vista Ultimate.

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Jason
Windows Vista RTM
MS Office 2007 RTM
Send a powerful message to Microsoft that you will not tolerate
trash products of "beta" quality = vista

Return your copy of vista and ask for a refund now.
If it came preinstalled with your PC, demand the ventor to change it to XP,
Just as you should demand a replacement if a hardware was malfunctioning,
the same applies to the OS.

thank you
 
Jason said:
No offence, but I personally like vista better then XP. With the added
security features, it keeps my children safe and allows them to go to
bed at a decent hour.
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No offense, but how does Vista allow your children to go to bed at a
decent hour?

Also, don't be fooled into thinking that Vista is safe. No OS is
completely safe. Vendors aren't writing security programs for Vista just
to kill time.

Alias
 
No offense, but how does Vista allow your children to go to bed at a
decent hour?
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You haven't used Vista at all have you? In Ultimate, the parental
controls allow you to set when a user account can use the PC.
Also, don't be fooled into thinking that Vista is safe. No OS is
completely safe. Vendors aren't writing security programs for Vista just
to kill time.
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No, they're writing them to take advantage of the stupid.
 
Or the children get bored to death because no game is compatible...
and solitaire is booorrrring... lol

good trick to get you sleepy.. give you the ultimate boring thing to do...

aha thats why perhaps they called it ultimate?

:-)
 
Conor said:
You haven't used Vista at all have you? In Ultimate, the parental
controls allow you to set when a user account can use the PC.
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And then Vista puts the kids to bed? Does it also give them a bath?
No, they're writing them to take advantage of the stupid.
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LOL! Even the free ones like Avast! and AVG? Are you saying that
Microsoft included Defender with Vista just to waste your time and the
One Care is not for Vista but just to get your money?

Are you also saying you use no third party firewall and have no anti
virus on your Vista machines?

Alias
 
Send a powerful message to Microsoft that you will not tolerate
trash products of "beta" quality = vista

Return your copy of vista and ask for a refund now.
If it came preinstalled with your PC, demand the ventor to change it to XP,
Just as you should demand a replacement if a hardware was malfunctioning,
the same applies to the OS.

thank you
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Caveat Emptor.

When MS has never released an OS that worked 'out of the box' why did you
think this one would be different?
 
nick said:
Send a powerful message to Microsoft that you will not tolerate
trash products of "beta" quality = vista

Return your copy of vista and ask for a refund now.
If it came preinstalled with your PC, demand the ventor to change it to XP,
Just as you should demand a replacement if a hardware was malfunctioning,
the same applies to the OS.

thank you
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If you need help for how to get your OEM to take vista back, see these
links:

http://www.netcraft.com.au/geoffrey/toshiba.html
http://www.networkworld.com/news/2006/110706-dell-windows.html

Also, I hope Dell has changed it's policy on taking returns for OEM
preinstalled windows because I believe it states in the Vista OEM EULA
that OEMs are required to take returns:

http://www.linuxworld.com/news/2006/110806-dell-windows-refund.html

Good luck all!

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http://protectfreedom.tripod.com/kick.html

Most recent idiotic quote added to KICK (Klassic Idiotic Caption Kooks):
"DRM is not added to anything in Vista."

"Good poets borrow; great poets steal."
- T. S. Eliot
 
I don't think this can be done with software. Once it's open It's yours. If this were the case of returns. Buy it, Copy It, Write down the ser number, Install it, Take it back, A free OS. No way.

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http://www.eggheadcafe.com
 
I don't think this can be done with software. Once it's open It's yours. If this were the case of returns. Buy it, Copy It, Write down the ser number, Install it, Take it back, A free OS. No way.

EggHeadCafe.com - .NET Developer Portal of Choice
http://www.eggheadcafe.com
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According to the first paragraph of the MS EULA, once you've accepted the
EULA it's yours - if you refuse, you're due a refund.
 
According to the first paragraph of the MS EULA, once you've accepted the
EULA it's yours - if you refuse, you're due a refund.
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Correction: once you accept, the license is yours and the money is theirs
- you never own the software.
 
Ronnie Vernon MVP said:
Kevin and Ray

This is mis-information. Microsoft has a 45 day no questions asked refund
policy. It doesn't matter if the box was opened and the software was
installed or not.

Microsoft North American Retail Product Refund Guidelines:
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/productrefund/refund.asp
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Well, I for one am certainly going to find out.
I already returned BOTH my copies as per the instructions on this page.

However, this Product Returns webpage only IMPLIES a 45-day "no questions
asked" policy

"...All software and hardware products that you purchased in the United
States or Canada (North America) come with a Microsoft 45-Day Money-Back
Guarantee. Microsoft will refund your purchase price subject to policy
guidelines and warranty and license agreement provisions...."

There it is.... the gotcha.
"...subject to policy guidelines and warranty and license agreement
provisions..."
Translation: "the Return Policy is actually defined in the EULA, and not on
this web page."

See how Microsoft works? read on.

Case in point - getting people to buy this to begin with.
"Do your homework" they say - make sure your system is compatible - use the
HCL and the UA (Upgrade Advisor).
What they DON'T tell people is both these tools are seriously flawed.
In my case I have [4] separate pieces of mainstream hardware that the UA
said were "fine".
What the UA didn't say was that there are no drivers.
Microsoft says this is the vendors fault.
The vendors say it is Microsoft's fault.
Guess who gets stuck holding the bag?

The UA declares unsupported hardware as being "fine", since even if there
are no drivers, MS knew about it in advance, therefore it "works as
expected", which is MS double-speak for "it won't work"

Catching on yet? there's more...

Software? same shit --exactly--.
There's the "Certified for Windows Vista" List, then there's the "Works with
Windows Vista" List.
The first one pretty much states, rather "certifies" that it will work in
Vista, while the second
only IMPLIES that it MIGHT. See the difference?

Seeing a pattern yet?
Hats off to the boys in marketing.
 
Send a powerful message to Microsoft that you will not tolerate
trash products of "beta" quality = vista

Return your copy of vista and ask for a refund now.
If it came preinstalled with your PC, demand the ventor to change it to XP,
Just as you should demand a replacement if a hardware was malfunctioning,
the same applies to the OS.
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What if you've got Vista and it's working as well or better than XP
(as in my case)?

Does that still make one a victim?

And what is a "ventor"?
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No offence, but I personally like vista better then XP. With the added security features, it keeps my children safe and allows them to go to bed at a decent hour. I don't use to many old programs, so I have not had the issues others have had. The wife and I really like the search features. Makes finding things a lot easier.

With that in mind, I think I will keep my copy of Vista Ultimate.
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No offense, but I personally like word-wrap done right.

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Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
NOTICE: In-Newsgroup (and therefore off-topic) comments on my sig will
be cheerfully ignored, so don't waste our time.
 
Also, don't be fooled into thinking that Vista is safe. No OS is
completely safe.
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Agreed. Just don't let your Linux buddies hear you saying that.
They'll start pounding their chests proclaiming Linux is completely
safe.

I'm one of the few Linux lovers who doesn't hesitate to proclaim Linux
isn't a "wonderful" as it's advocates would have you believe.

But as I like to say.......

Every OS sucks.

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Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
NOTICE: In-Newsgroup (and therefore off-topic) comments on my sig will
be cheerfully ignored, so don't waste our time.
 
Kevin and Ray

This is mis-information. Microsoft has a 45 day no questions asked refund
policy. It doesn't matter if the box was opened and the software was
installed or not.

Microsoft North American Retail Product Refund Guidelines:
http://www.microsoft.com/mscorp/productrefund/refund.asp
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If you want 730 day no-questions-asked refund you'll have to purchase
your software at Costco.

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Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
NOTICE: In-Newsgroup (and therefore off-topic) comments on my sig will
be cheerfully ignored, so don't waste our time.
 
I don't think this can be done with software. Once it's open It's yours. If this were the case of returns. Buy it, Copy It, Write down the ser number, Install it, Take it back, A free OS. No way.

EggHeadCafe.com - .NET Developer Portal of Choice
http://www.eggheadcafe.com
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It can be done if you buy it at Costco.
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Scott http://angrykeyboarder.com

A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
NOTICE: In-Newsgroup (and therefore off-topic) comments on my sig will
be cheerfully ignored, so don't waste our time.
 
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