Vista Ultimate Retail Box

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I received one from the TechBeta program (full retail) and I have MSDN. The
x86 copy is MSDN and I use it for testing VPC 2007 beta and some other minor
betas on x86. The TechBeta license is the one I am using for personal
stuff.
 
You won't see OEM editions on offer until after launch on Jan. 30 (the same
time the retail editions go on sale).
 
If you want to 'try out' both versions you can install both versions on a
dual boot but while installing do not use the product key. The install will
work for 30 days. After you have decided which one you want to use erase the
other one and then activate the good version.

Hope this helps.

Gary
 
Hi,
How do you Ghost Vista? I thought it was incompatible at least that's what I saw in the Vista Upgrade Advisor.
This program might have minor compatibility issues after upgrading to Windows Vista.
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Didn't know what "Minor Compatibility" really meant.
I am still running XP because of that and the Realtex HD ALC 882 chipset drivers. Got no sound:(
I only have the RC1 not the RTM.

Hi Paul!

Will I be able to do this on the same PC:

1. install x32
2. ghost x32 installation to an image
3. install x64
4. ghost x64 installation to an image
5. restore x32 image or x64 image to use both versions (but not at the same
time of course)

Thanks a lot!
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Have a good day,
RScotti

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You make an image file of the volume that Vista is on from the OS on which
Ghost will install, like XP86. I back up my Vista64 and XP64 from my XP86 os
each month or more often if I am doing a lot of work on Vista.
 
Thanks,
I guess I can't use it because I have only one drive I tried to put RC1 on another partition with Partition Magic but it
was a complete failure.
Than Symantec told me that they didn't recommend partitioning and putting two OS's on the C:\drive
I'll guess I have to wait till Norton comes out with an upgrade or Ghost 11:(

You make an image file of the volume that Vista is on from the OS on which
Ghost will install, like XP86. I back up my Vista64 and XP64 from my XP86 os
each month or more often if I am doing a lot of work on Vista.
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Have a good day,
RScotti

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There is no problem putting several OS's on one hard drive, but each must
have its own partition.
If you are starting from scratch, you can use the partitioning and
formatting facilities of each install CD/DVD
For each OS, create a partition the size you need for that OS and format it.
Leave the rest free space.
Install the OS, then do the same for each subsequent OS. Install in the
order released. XP (or before) then Vista

If you have XP ghosted, you should be able to make a smaller partition, as
long as it is large enough to hold the used space plus say 25% and install
XP back into the smaller partition. Then install Vista into the remaining
free space using the Vista install DVD to create and in advanced options
format the partition.
 
Hi John,
I did all that but after I installed RC1 I got an error #105 with Partition Magic which basically meant I had to
reinstall everything including making a new partition and XP was gone.
I called Symantec and really didn't get anywhere but they did say they did not recommend splitting my C:\drive.

Now I see that you can't install XP and Vista together according to Colin in this Vista newsgroup because of the XP
files going south volsnap.sys (VSS driver).

There is no problem putting several OS's on one hard drive, but each must
have its own partition.
If you are starting from scratch, you can use the partitioning and
formatting facilities of each install CD/DVD
For each OS, create a partition the size you need for that OS and format it.
Leave the rest free space.
Install the OS, then do the same for each subsequent OS. Install in the
order released. XP (or before) then Vista

If you have XP ghosted, you should be able to make a smaller partition, as
long as it is large enough to hold the used space plus say 25% and install
XP back into the smaller partition. Then install Vista into the remaining
free space using the Vista install DVD to create and in advanced options
format the partition.
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Have a good day,
RScotti

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Actually it is the other way around. The XP volsnap.sys kills Vista VSS
files. In any case, it is not a good idea on a production or primary home
system that you use for stuff you rely on.
 
Your post makes no sense, but your choice. Colin advises not to dual boot
XP and Vista because the Restore Points in Vista are deleted each time you
boot into XP. So, how many times have you used system restore, and how many
times has it worked. If you have another method of restoring in an
emergency, it may be worth it to run programs that won't run in Vista but
which you aren't ready or can't replace yet. For most people, I fully agree
and his warning should be heeded. Colin likes virtual machines and that may
very well be the way for some or even you to go.

Why would you be running Partition Magic at all, when you know it doesn't
work with Vista? What I suggested does not require any use of PM. Why
would you take any advice from Symantec, let alone from some junior flunky
who punches a few keywords in the computer and reads back the output, but
who probably knows nothing about partitioning. You would not be
partitioning your C drive. You would be creating two or more partitions on
a hard drive. (one may be CO, on the other hand it may be a different
letter in each system you boot into).

Good luck.
 
OK,
I have an OEM version of XP with a three Recovery disks but the RC1 must have these partitioning program but I don't
know how to use it to create a new partition for Vista.
I also have the ERUNT program that will restore the registry I think in both programs.I can use that instead of System
Restore.

My main problem now is I have to wait for the High Definition audio Realtek ALC 882 chipset drivers
so I will have sound.Than I can do as you say.
If you tell me how to create two partitions on my drive. Never saw that option in any MS OS.
Maybe I just looked in the wrong places?

Your post makes no sense, but your choice. Colin advises not to dual boot
XP and Vista because the Restore Points in Vista are deleted each time you
boot into XP. So, how many times have you used system restore, and how many
times has it worked. If you have another method of restoring in an
emergency, it may be worth it to run programs that won't run in Vista but
which you aren't ready or can't replace yet. For most people, I fully agree
and his warning should be heeded. Colin likes virtual machines and that may
very well be the way for some or even you to go.

Why would you be running Partition Magic at all, when you know it doesn't
work with Vista? What I suggested does not require any use of PM. Why
would you take any advice from Symantec, let alone from some junior flunky
who punches a few keywords in the computer and reads back the output, but
who probably knows nothing about partitioning. You would not be
partitioning your C drive. You would be creating two or more partitions on
a hard drive. (one may be CO, on the other hand it may be a different
letter in each system you boot into).

Good luck.
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Have a good day,
RScotti

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Hi Colin,
Colin likes virtual machines and that may very well be the way for some or even you to go.
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PS:
I wish I could find a web site that explains this completely in simple terms. I might be interested in doing this.

Have a good day,
RScotti

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Download VPC 2007 beta from Microsoft Connect, install it, and read the docs
and the help file. There is also plenty to read on the VPC home page on
microsoft.com.
 
Hi Colin,
I downloaded the VPC 2007 Beta but I have an OEM version of MCE XP with a three Recovery disks and the RC1 DVD but I
don't know how to use the RC1 DVD to create a new partition for Vista.Will VPC do this?
I only have the one drive C:\ with one partition right now.

I tried Partition Magic the last time and it was a disaster.All kinds of errors like error 105 which basically had to
redo the whole partition and XP.

I haven't installed either VPC or Vista RC! yet. Not sure how to do it with the VPC?
Download VPC 2007 beta from Microsoft Connect, install it, and read the docs
and the help file. There is also plenty to read on the VPC home page on
microsoft.com.
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Have a good day,
RScotti

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I forgot that VPC 2007 beta may not install yet on MCE due to an installer
bug. There is a workaround on microsoft.public.virtualpc.

VPC is not a partitioning program. It is an application for managing
virtual machines on your Windows desktop. The idea is that you do not need
any partitions or reboots to run guest operating systems. Instead you run a
guest OS in a window on your XP or Vista desktop. You have access to both
the host desktop and the guest desktop at the same time. With enough ram
and cpu power it is possible to run several guest computers at the same
time.
 
Hi Colin,
That sounds really cool that I don't need partitions. I have the VPC newsgroup.
I did a search for MCE and only found your reply but it didn't give the workaround.
Unfortunately, MCE is not a supported host. You may well experience
problems.
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Also in one of your other reply's
No.
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Is this true for all USB devices? I have an USB external HD that I use for backups.

I forgot that VPC 2007 beta may not install yet on MCE due to an installer
bug. There is a workaround on microsoft.public.virtualpc.

VPC is not a partitioning program. It is an application for managing
virtual machines on your Windows desktop. The idea is that you do not need
any partitions or reboots to run guest operating systems. Instead you run a
guest OS in a window on your XP or Vista desktop. You have access to both
the host desktop and the guest desktop at the same time. With enough ram
and cpu power it is possible to run several guest computers at the same
time.
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Have a good day,
RScotti

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Hard drives are cheap, buy an internal one for your backups. Most good
cases these days are easy to get into and if you are worried about something
frying all your hard drives, SATA drives unplug real easily.
 
Seach on "XP Home," which is what most folks have asked about. Or "blocked"
since that is what is going on. Or simply ask the question, "How can I
install VPC 2007 beta on XP Home or MCE?" I haven't kept track of the
workaround because I use XP Pro and Vista, sorry.
 
Thanks John,
I have to check into SATA drives.
Hard drives are cheap, buy an internal one for your backups. Most good
cases these days are easy to get into and if you are worried about something
frying all your hard drives, SATA drives unplug real easily.
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Have a good day,
RScotti

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