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Guest
I lost my product key for rc1 and i am wondering if there is any way i can
get a new one because at microsoft they won't give me one.
get a new one because at microsoft they won't give me one.
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Dale
How much money have you got and do you have a PayPal account?
Dale
Dale
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Harry Ohrn
Not funny ;-)
Harry Ohrn MS MVP [Shell\User]
Harry Ohrn MS MVP [Shell\User]
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Harry Ohrn
Microsoft won't give you a new key for RC1 because Vista is no longer a
beta. There are no beta keys available once a product has been released to
manufacturing. You will need to wait until Vista is available for purchase.
beta. There are no beta keys available once a product has been released to
manufacturing. You will need to wait until Vista is available for purchase.
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Guest
money? I got the product key from microsoft when they were first giving out
beta 2 and now i want to use it on rc1 but i lost it and i need a new one and
no srry i don't have a pay pal account.
beta 2 and now i want to use it on rc1 but i lost it and i need a new one and
no srry i don't have a pay pal account.
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Dale
Oh, come on. Where's your sense of humor? 
I thought I had found a way to pay for my $400 Ultimate Retail license of
Vista - and in exchange for a time-limited 2-generation-old beta with no
video playback capability.
Dale
I thought I had found a way to pay for my $400 Ultimate Retail license of
Vista - and in exchange for a time-limited 2-generation-old beta with no
video playback capability.
Dale
Harry Ohrn said:
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Jack
Not only not funny but also stinky stupid!
Why does OP need to have a PayPal account??????????
You do not need one to pay out money!
Jack
Why does OP need to have a PayPal account??????????
You do not need one to pay out money!
Jack
Harry Ohrn said:
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Jack
Try Vista key generator
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Dale
He does to send me money. I don't take credit cards.
Dale
Dale
Jack said:
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Harry Ohrn
Yeah that ought to get him a sh*t load of trojans.
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Harry Ohrn
hahaha
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Harry Ohrn MS MVP [Shell/User]
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Harry Ohrn MS MVP [Shell/User]
Dale said:Oh, come on. Where's your sense of humor?
I thought I had found a way to pay for my $400 Ultimate Retail license of
Vista - and in exchange for a time-limited 2-generation-old beta with no
video playback capability.
Dale
Harry Ohrn said:
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Mike Hall - MS MVP Windows Shell/User
Harry
It may get the local repair shop some business too..
It may get the local repair shop some business too..
Harry Ohrn said:
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Frank Saunders, MS-MVP OE/WM
Danny said:
That's OK. The final will be out in a little over three weeks.
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Colin Barnhorst
SIW should give it to you in RC1 x86. Look under Software/Secrets on the
left pane.
http://www.gtopala.com/siw_download.html
left pane.
http://www.gtopala.com/siw_download.html
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Colin Barnhorst
Of course, that assumes RC1 is running. If you are not running RC1 I know
of no way to recover the key except from the email at the time you enrolled
for the download. If RC1 was mailed to you the pk is in the folder.
of no way to recover the key except from the email at the time you enrolled
for the download. If RC1 was mailed to you the pk is in the folder.
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Janet Chen
you don't need a product key, do the Chinese way,
download the Final Release Vista,
install the Business or Enterprise edition,
then activate against a online KMS server.
you then have a perfect working Vista (not even required a lousy crack)
download the Final Release Vista,
install the Business or Enterprise edition,
then activate against a online KMS server.
you then have a perfect working Vista (not even required a lousy crack)
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MICHAEL
If you are going to steal- why even worry about
KMS servers in China?
The more diabolical and clever way, is to use the
virtual KMS server. That just blows my mind how
quickly that method came out. Yes, it is stealing.
But sure as hell is slick. Wrong, and yet, creative.
All the WGA and activation crap accomplished nothing, and
done before Vista even officially retails- in the blink of an eye.
Of course, KMS only works for Business and Enterprise.
For those Ultimate lovers, there's the new "never activate"
crack, good for 32bit and 64bit. They found a way to stop
signed driver enforcement in the 64 versions. Amazing.
Perhaps, the guys over at VistaBootPro (ProNetworks)
need to take a look at the tiny crack, cause they keep
saying they are "working" on a version that will disable
driver enforcement.
Microsoft sure has put a significant amount of time
and resources in *trying* to prevent an "insignificant"
part of Windows sales from being adversely affected.
They haven't accomplished a thing. Oh the irony of it all.
-Michael
KMS servers in China?
The more diabolical and clever way, is to use the
virtual KMS server. That just blows my mind how
quickly that method came out. Yes, it is stealing.
But sure as hell is slick. Wrong, and yet, creative.
All the WGA and activation crap accomplished nothing, and
done before Vista even officially retails- in the blink of an eye.
Of course, KMS only works for Business and Enterprise.
For those Ultimate lovers, there's the new "never activate"
crack, good for 32bit and 64bit. They found a way to stop
signed driver enforcement in the 64 versions. Amazing.
Perhaps, the guys over at VistaBootPro (ProNetworks)
need to take a look at the tiny crack, cause they keep
saying they are "working" on a version that will disable
driver enforcement.
Microsoft sure has put a significant amount of time
and resources in *trying* to prevent an "insignificant"
part of Windows sales from being adversely affected.
They haven't accomplished a thing. Oh the irony of it all.
-Michael
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Alias
MICHAEL said:
Oh yes they have. Myself, for example. I am looking into Linux and
never, in my wildest dreams, did I think I would be doing that.
Alias
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Mike C.
Actually, this method involved does nothing against WGA--as WGA is seperate
to activation. It is true that WGA will trigger a deactivation in some
cases, but it is always true that it will trigger a deactivation. The KMS
allows you to reactivate the OS, but it will not bypass the WGA required to
download the file you were intending to download.
None of this is to prevent the "hardcore" pirates, that is, the people that
are going to pirate it for themselves. The problem stems in the usage of
pirated software as a business. Microsoft and other companies KNOW people
are going to crack and bypass their protections, it's not built for that and
you can clearly see this through the usage of the keyserver. It's to help
prevent piracy where it really matters:
1. Consumers who are getting ripped off with pirated copies of Windows by
local PC shops. Having worked technical support for over a year, I had found
a couple of people who, at the least, claimed they had no idea but when I
would help them get Windows Defender WGA would say the copy of Windows
wasn't genuine. Some of these people really do not know, and this protects
them. The problem then comes in do they really care...they usually don't
until you mention that they probably got charged for it anyway and the
person that installed it all ripped them off.
2. Mass distributors of pirated software. There are "legitimate" businesses
that exist where mass amounts of pirated software is sold. They don't really
exist too much in the US (though they do exist), but the markets in other
worlds for this are huge. Asia is by far the largest market of pirated
anything, not just computer software. We're talking clothing, shoes,
software, games, even computer memory and other things. And the clothing is
actually made to look like the "real thing", and sold as the "real thing",
but it is not the real thing. Software is even easier to do this because
it's simple duplication. Of course, one can argue the original product
pricing plays a large part in this. Simply put, most of the places where
this occurs people can't really afford the massive amounts of $ asked of
them. Even spending $50 on Windows, which to us would seem like an absolute
bargin, is difficult for them. Much of the pirated stuff is sold extremely
cheap, and it's often times the only way these people will ever have the
software.
It's not intended or designed to stop individual users from saying "I want
to pirate my Windows", although it most certainly does make it far more
difficult than in previous years.
to activation. It is true that WGA will trigger a deactivation in some
cases, but it is always true that it will trigger a deactivation. The KMS
allows you to reactivate the OS, but it will not bypass the WGA required to
download the file you were intending to download.
None of this is to prevent the "hardcore" pirates, that is, the people that
are going to pirate it for themselves. The problem stems in the usage of
pirated software as a business. Microsoft and other companies KNOW people
are going to crack and bypass their protections, it's not built for that and
you can clearly see this through the usage of the keyserver. It's to help
prevent piracy where it really matters:
1. Consumers who are getting ripped off with pirated copies of Windows by
local PC shops. Having worked technical support for over a year, I had found
a couple of people who, at the least, claimed they had no idea but when I
would help them get Windows Defender WGA would say the copy of Windows
wasn't genuine. Some of these people really do not know, and this protects
them. The problem then comes in do they really care...they usually don't
until you mention that they probably got charged for it anyway and the
person that installed it all ripped them off.
2. Mass distributors of pirated software. There are "legitimate" businesses
that exist where mass amounts of pirated software is sold. They don't really
exist too much in the US (though they do exist), but the markets in other
worlds for this are huge. Asia is by far the largest market of pirated
anything, not just computer software. We're talking clothing, shoes,
software, games, even computer memory and other things. And the clothing is
actually made to look like the "real thing", and sold as the "real thing",
but it is not the real thing. Software is even easier to do this because
it's simple duplication. Of course, one can argue the original product
pricing plays a large part in this. Simply put, most of the places where
this occurs people can't really afford the massive amounts of $ asked of
them. Even spending $50 on Windows, which to us would seem like an absolute
bargin, is difficult for them. Much of the pirated stuff is sold extremely
cheap, and it's often times the only way these people will ever have the
software.
It's not intended or designed to stop individual users from saying "I want
to pirate my Windows", although it most certainly does make it far more
difficult than in previous years.
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Mike Jester
The problem is that you have to reactivate every 180days, per the volume
licensing agreements. Just because they've deactivated the 'phone home'
feature of the KMS server doesn't give the clients a permanent activation.
Will the Vista installation recognize the VMware image as being the same KMS
server, so it can just reactivate properly? I'm not sure it's really going
to work all that well, you may have to build the original KMS server image
back up to 25 clients by reinstalling Vista on another computer 25 times.
Remember, VMware activated installations don't count toward the KMS server
minimum required for activation count.
Either way, I wouldn't touch that stuff with a ten foot pole.
licensing agreements. Just because they've deactivated the 'phone home'
feature of the KMS server doesn't give the clients a permanent activation.
Will the Vista installation recognize the VMware image as being the same KMS
server, so it can just reactivate properly? I'm not sure it's really going
to work all that well, you may have to build the original KMS server image
back up to 25 clients by reinstalling Vista on another computer 25 times.
Remember, VMware activated installations don't count toward the KMS server
minimum required for activation count.
Either way, I wouldn't touch that stuff with a ten foot pole.