Vista Price UK v USA

  • Thread starter Thread starter Basil
  • Start date Start date
"on which that the British government feels you should
pay retail tax twice?"
Has nothin to do with them feelin that we should pay tax twice at all.
What it is is they insist that we HAVE to pay VAT on goods.
Already having paid tax when it was paid for in the states does not come
into it because we never paid that tax to them in this country.
That is what it is about.
They take money from us(tax)if we buy inside the EU(included in the price)
AND if we buy from outside the EU then the tax that was added on purchase to
whatever country was NOT paid to this one.
So they force us to pay tax on something that we got from another country.
They do not like us being able to buy from outside the EU where the tax may
be less, and in anyway goes to that country and so they make us pay a tax
that is for inside the EU on goods got outside the EU.
I don't like being told what to do when it comes to buying from outside the
EU but there is nothin I can do about it.
DVD's and CD's from the states are taxed on gettin into the UK.
Sure you could copy said disks and label them anything you wanted.........
and then you could get customs deciding that you are up to no good....
 
The irony is, it's probably cheaper to buy an MSDN subscription and get
Vista free than to buy a Full Retail Vista licence!
 
Nero said:
"on which that the British government feels you should
pay retail tax twice?"
Has nothin to do with them feelin that we should pay tax twice at all.
What it is is they insist that we HAVE to pay VAT on goods.
Already having paid tax when it was paid for in the states does not come
into it because we never paid that tax to them in this country.
That is what it is about.
They take money from us(tax)if we buy inside the EU(included in the price)
AND if we buy from outside the EU then the tax that was added on purchase to
whatever country was NOT paid to this one.
So they force us to pay tax on something that we got from another country.
They do not like us being able to buy from outside the EU where the tax may
be less, and in anyway goes to that country and so they make us pay a tax
that is for inside the EU on goods got outside the EU.
I don't like being told what to do when it comes to buying from outside the
EU but there is nothin I can do about it.
DVD's and CD's from the states are taxed on gettin into the UK.
Sure you could copy said disks and label them anything you wanted.........
and then you could get customs deciding that you are up to no good....
Click to expand...

Bummer. This discussion makes me recall that there *are* still some good
reasons to be thankful I live in the U.S. of A.
 
Nero said:
IF anyone buys ANYTHING from outside the EU then VAT is payable by law.
Click to expand...

You mean if my son or daughter sends me a t-shirt or a tie for Xmas, I'm
going to get taxed again? Please, pull the other one. I know a lot of
people who have entered the EU and none of them were charged a VAT or
Import tax on the shirt they we wearing. Have you?

Alias
 
| Bummer. This discussion makes me recall that there *are* still some good
| reasons to be thankful I live in the U.S. of A.
|
| --
| Daze

The ONLY good reasons for being an American that I can discern from this discussion is that we do
not have a VAT and our sales tax is generally 50% or less than the UK Vat, and usually things bought
and shipped from out of one's state are entirely tax free. Plus, I have never had any package
opened by the US Postal Service. Even the cigarettes I buy over the internet and are shipped to me
intra-state to avoid the enormous NY State and NYC taxes are never opened.

However, I fear that this 233% premium that UK residents will pay will only increase their
perception of American arrogance. OK, maybe a 5 to 10% premium MIGHT be acceptable, but $700
dollars for an OS is totally outrageous

I would really like to know WHY Microsoft is doing this. And the VAT doesn't even seem that
relevant.

DCR
 
"You mean if my son or daughter sends me a t-shirt or a tie for Xmas, I'm
going to get taxed again? "
IF it comes thru UK customs and ALL mail coming into the UK Does.
IF the shirt or tie is "hidden"in with some other things and CUSTOMS decide
to open it then they can decide that YOU have to pay VAT and any other
charges they choose.
 
AND they CAN open anything they want.
Alias said:
You mean if my son or daughter sends me a t-shirt or a tie for Xmas, I'm
going to get taxed again? Please, pull the other one. I know a lot of
people who have entered the EU and none of them were charged a VAT or
Import tax on the shirt they we wearing. Have you?

Alias
Click to expand...
 
Whatever anyone from the states chooses to think about not having to pay VAT
on goods that anyone buys, gets sent over, or any other way, ALL goods got
outside of the EU ARE subject to VAT and import duty.
The fact that any tax was paid in whatever country does NOT exuse them from
VAT and whatever other charges.
Same goes for anyone........
Sure, I was in NC and Ga, and TN two years in a row and I paid for stuff
that is taxable by law over here when bringing it in to the UK.
I had the choice of mailing to myself over here and hoping it never got
checked ..........
taking all price tags, labels, packaging away and making out I had taken it
over to start with...
or declare it as I came thru customs.
 
I have stuff shipped/mailed over from NC a lot and not once has it been
opened by US postal service.
When it comes into the UK it is a different matter.
1, over here they do not like us being able to buy cheaper(sometimes)from
the states and pay no VAT.
2, I buy my Lee jeans and Wranglers from the states and stand to have to pay
tax and whatever once it enters the UK and IF made to pay import on it then
my $30 jeans end up costing me hell of a lot more.
IF I could buy the exact same Lee jeans here then they would cost me around
£60!!!
So, there it is........rip off Britain.
 
Nero said:
"You mean if my son or daughter sends me a t-shirt or a tie for Xmas, I'm
going to get taxed again? "
IF it comes thru UK customs and ALL mail coming into the UK Does.
IF the shirt or tie is "hidden"in with some other things and CUSTOMS decide
to open it then they can decide that YOU have to pay VAT and any other
charges they choose.
Click to expand...

Not sure about the UK, but in Spain, I receive packages from people with
a green slip on the outside saying what's in it and how much it's worth.
I'm not talking about sneaking something in. I am talking about making a
legal, personal purchase such as software for my PC or a shirt to put on
my back. I am not talking about buying 100 Levis or 100 copies of XP and
reselling them, for which, naturally, I would need an import/export
license and pay import duty and VAT when I sold the imported product. I
think you are confusing the two.

Not that I don't believe you. It's just that I don't believe you. Got an
official reference?

Alias
 
NO, I am NOT confusing it at all.
Just think whatever you want.................
fekkin knowitall.
CUSTOMS can do what they like whenever they like regardless of a stupid
label saying what is inside.
There are people who put one thing on the label and what is inside is
different........
THAT is why customs can and WILL open ANYTHING they want.
You gey YOUR fekkin facts right.
Fek you and your postal service ecaftnuc!!
 
Nero said:
NO, I am NOT confusing it at all.
Just think whatever you want.................
fekkin knowitall.
Click to expand...

No reason to be insulting.
CUSTOMS can do what they like whenever they like regardless of a stupid
label saying what is inside.
Click to expand...

My point is that they don't do it.
There are people who put one thing on the label and what is inside is
different........
Click to expand...

That's sneaking it in, not something I do.
THAT is why customs can and WILL open ANYTHING they want.
You gey YOUR fekkin facts right.
Click to expand...

Still waiting for your proof.
Fek you and your postal service ecaftnuc!!
Click to expand...

Like I said, there is no reason to be insulting.

Alias
 
I live in the UK and i'm going to buy the OEM ultimate version, the rules are
you have to buy a peice of pc hardware with it E.G. memory, hard drive, cpu,
gpu etc.
I'm waiting to buy new pc parts and build my pc myself, so i can buy the OEM
as i'm buying a peice of hardware (i'm actually buying more than one).
If you already have a PC and want to buy vista than i would still get the
OEM version, why don't you buy a new peice of hardware so you can get it,
like a memory stick, these dramaticially increse performance.
So, in short get the OEM, it's cheaper and all you need to do is buy a peice
of pc hardware with it, this is very usefull if your're buying a new pc or
just upgrading, as both will allow you to buy the cheaper version with all
the fetures of the retail product which is currentlly £369.
Just go to
http://www.overclockers.co.uk/search_results.php?sortby=&groupid=33&string=Vista
where the ultimate OEM version (64-bit) is only £135.11 inc vat.
 
Since the main difference (except 1 transfer) is the direct Microsoft
support, kind of tells you they are expecting a huge number of support calls
with the retail version. Hope the OEM's are prepared for the calls too.
 
Hi, I've pre-ordered the OEM version of Vista from overclockers.co.uk and I
queried about purchasing hardware and received this reply:

"Dear Chris Catt,

Thank you for your webnote. You would not need to buy a item of hardware to
be able to purchase Windows Vista OEM."

As I have purchased several items from them recently, spend well in excess
of £1000, I wonder if they are taking that into account...
ChrisC
 
Hi,

they wouldent take in to account any previous harware purches's, i dont know
why overclockers say you dont need to buy a peice of hardware as if you reed
this it says somthing different

PLEASE NOTE : The OEM agreement for SOFTWARE DISTRIBUTION.

If the individual software license is a desktop operating system (including
Windows XP Media Center Edition), we grant you a nonexclusive right to
distribute individual software licenses; provided that each one is
distributed with either (a) a fully assembled computer system or (b) a
nonperipheral computer hardware component.

A “fully assembled computer system†means a computer system consisting of at
least a central processing unit, a motherboard, a hard drive, a power supply,
and a case.
A “nonperipheral computer hardware component†means a component that will be
an integral part of the fully assembled computer system on which the
individual software license will be installed.

Regards,

Conor.
 
I thought the OEM version was limited to installation on one PC and
couldn't be transfered at all . . . ?
 
Conor said:
Hi,

they wouldent take in to account any previous harware purches's, i dont know
why overclockers say you dont need to buy a peice of hardware as if you reed
this it says somthing different

PLEASE NOTE : The OEM agreement for SOFTWARE DISTRIBUTION.

If the individual software license is a desktop operating system (including
Windows XP Media Center Edition), we grant you a nonexclusive right to
distribute individual software licenses; provided that each one is
distributed with either (a) a fully assembled computer system or (b) a
nonperipheral computer hardware component.

A “fully assembled computer system†means a computer system consisting of at
least a central processing unit, a motherboard, a hard drive, a power supply,
and a case.
A “nonperipheral computer hardware component†means a component that will be
an integral part of the fully assembled computer system on which the
individual software license will be installed.

Regards,

Conor.
Click to expand...

That's been changed and the hardware requirement has been dropped.
Obviously Overclockers hasn't gotten the word. I know this to be true
because I just purchased a generic OEM version of XP Pro from NewEgg and
they sold it to me without any hardware whatsoever.

I have also bought a copy of a Spanish and an English generic OEM in
Spain and didn't have to buy hardware with it.

Alias
 
Back
Top