Vista on 2nd harddrive

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I> Um ... Pulling the power-plug often doesn't work, in my experience.
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I should just add that on my setup one HDD is IDE and the other is SATA so
there is no master/slave issue to deal with.
 
2) Removable HD tray ("mobile rack", "HD caddy", etc.)

I have a Kingwin mobile rack installed in one of the 5 1/2"
peripheral slots, and I can slide in a tray containing any
bootable OS.
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I have one of those but it is made by LianLi. Only probelm is that my
current computer case is too short to use it with as it kncks the PSU and
it is IDE and I am now using both IDE and SATA.
 
Frank McCoy said:
It doesn't; and doesn't care.
The motherboard though, has cabling and/or termination
problems if not:
A. Full cable-select.
B. Full MASTER / SLAVE with both drives in place.

It didn't use to be this way, until they went to the new wide
cables with twice as many conductors in the same space for
IDE.

All of a sudden the termination got really picky.
Before that, you could have a drive be MASTER or SLAVE,
and anywhere on the cable; and the IDE controller would see
it just fine.

Not now any more.
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Every time that I have done an OS installation it was with
one jumpered hard drive on a 2-device 80-wire IDE cable.
There was no need for there to be another jumpered HD
on the cable. And the standard scenario for an OS
installation is with the HD at the end of the cable and
jumpered as Master. I see no reason for there to be a
device at each available connector. Give it another try on
your system (you don't have to activate the installation).

*TimDaniels*
 
In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt Pipboy said:
No you don't, just pullig the power means it is the same as no HDD
connected at all. Same as when I power off my external USB HDD's, once
there is no powerer the OS and bios don't see any HDD. I should know as I
am running my PC setup this way right now with Vista and XP on their own
HDD's with no multi boot menu needed.
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All I can say in reply is, "It didn't work for ME when I tried it.
;-{
Both the BIOS and Windows XP install kept complaining when I did so.
I think on one iteration I got as far as the first reboot before it
couldn't find the right drive to boot from; as the other drive just
being connected without being powered up confused the issue.

Since I'd spent over an hour getting that far, as you can imagine I was
a bit pissed that my "simple solution" didn't work.

I really really *really* thought the same thing you do.
Only: It didn't work worth shit.
 
In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt Pipboy said:
I should just add that on my setup one HDD is IDE and the other is SATA so
there is no master/slave issue to deal with.
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Sata is different.
There I'm pretty sure you can disconnect the cable, unplug the drive, or
whatever. IDE is finicky.
 
I believe it's included on the Vista disk.

Frank McCoy said:
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So ... Where does one get ahold of a copy of this utility; and how much
does it cost? Also, where does one find the specs?

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Geez,what happened to the good old dual(multi) boot I used sucessfully for
years with 98SE and W2Kpro? Anyway,I've decided to stick to 2kpro until I
upgrade.I usually upgrade mobo,CPU vid card evey 1.5 years or so.Next time
will have to include memory as well.I don't want to have to pay for Vista
again then.In the meantime I'll have Vista waiting on the shelf
 
don't look said:
Geez,what happened to the good old dual(multi) boot I used
sucessfully for years with 98SE and W2Kpro?
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Windows XP.

Some say you can play all the games on Windows 2000 or whatever, but
the point is whether one operating system can run your programs. If
so, you don't need to dual boot.
 
Frank said:
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Hmmmm.
AFAICT, Vista Boot Pro just edits the BCEDIT file on the main drive.
Doesn't do *squat* about how Vista (or Win-XP) will screw up a working
boot drive, so it won't boot except with the Vista OS already in
place.

It just allows you to select boot options on the Vista drive.
I see nothing (in the information anyway) about where it will repair
drives with their boot sectors already blown away by Vista or XP.
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bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzztttt!!! wrong answer!

when one grows weary of vista's bullshit, boot pro can and will return the
original drive to the ntldr.

been there, done that, got the t-shirt.


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alt.os.windows-xp


you aint from around here, are ya' boy
 
John said:
Windows XP.

Some say you can play all the games on Windows 2000 or whatever, but
the point is whether one operating system can run your programs. If
so, you don't need to dual boot.
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true, very true. dual booting can become a royal pain in the arse!


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resident redneck alt.os.windows-vista
alt.os.windows-xp


you aint from around here, are ya' boy
 
In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt "sbb78247"
bzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzztttt!!! wrong answer!

when one grows weary of vista's bullshit, boot pro can and will return the
original drive to the ntldr.

been there, done that, got the t-shirt.
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Perhaps ... But their advertised specs don't say that.
A shame if you have to BUY the program to find out whether such a
function is supported. The general assumption would be: If it doesn't
say so, then don't expect something not advertised."

From what I read, it doesn't do anything that BCEDIT (that comes with
Vista) won't do. So, by their own claims, if Boot Pro can do it, so can
BCEDIT. The advantage being ease-of-use (which I'll admit isn't an
inconsequential advantage; Windows being notorious for having crappy
utilities).

I see nothing about BCEDIT being capable of doing such either.
Hell, Windows XP craps all over any attached boot-disk when installing.
Where are the utilities for undoing THAT?
(I presume they exist. Just don't know what to even go looking for.)
 
Windows XP.

Some say you can play all the games on Windows 2000 or whatever, but
the point is whether one operating system can run your programs. If
so, you don't need to dual boot.
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But Windows XP *doesn't* run all of my programs. ;-{
Some won't even run under Win-98SE.
However, with Win-98 I at *least* can boot a DOS floppy and then run
from the hard-drive. XP doesn't even allow booting to DOS.

Hell, it won't run a lot of my old *Windows* programs that ran just fine
for many years. ;-{

OTOH, it doesn't seem to crash as badly or as often as previous Windows.
It also doesn't hang with memory packed full nearly as often either.
(Note: "Nearly as often"; not "Never".) ;-{
That's not just because I have 1 gig in now, either.
It was better even with only 512meg.

All-in-all, I think I slightly prefer XP; though I'm still mad about
being forced into buying it by lack-of-support. However, I'm still
pissed (and will BE pissed) by the fact that *every* "upgrade" kills a
large fraction of programs I've used and run for years. Most especially
some of the more useful tools. I suppose <Sigh.> that I should go out
and hunt up more modern varieties that work under the newer operating
systems ... or, write my own that aren't so OS-sensitve.

Games however, some *wonderful* games that were quite entertaining
sometimes, never seem to make it.

Yeah, go ahead: Say, "Computers shouldn't be used for mere games."
Tell that to the people making the most money with computers these days.
 
John Doe said:
Windows XP.

Some say you can play all the games on Windows 2000 or whatever, but
the point is whether one operating system can run your programs. If
so, you don't need to dual boot.
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Windows 2000 w/sp4 works perfectly fine for any game or app I've thrown at
it.Been playing games on it for 3 years or so.Besides,if I could have
afforded XP I would have bought a copy.(disabled,fixed income),
 
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