Vista is SO SLOW

[Robert Firth]

I wouldn't say that it is Microsoft that is to blame or doing the shoving.
It is the OEM/system builders that are equiping these machines that way, and
hardware manufacturers that are not writing proper drivers. Nothing
Microsoft can do about that but make the OS mainstream and force (throught
the powers of consumer demand) hardware manufacturers to make their hardware
and software compatible.

It's the drive for cheap computers that moves consumers (and OEMs) to
underpowered computers.

Robert Firth
http://www.winvistainfo.org

 

[DefecTalisman]

Well put, ok no install or uninstall. Try fixing your registry. Or even
support from the place you bought the machine... Vista shouldn't run any
slower, maybe a few teething problems and compatibility issues. My top also
came with vista and when I installed a few wrong programs it slowed down a
whole load. System restore to the 1st point made and it was sorted. I was
more carful with what I choose to install. Rather be ahead of the crowd...
Use the latest and learn from its defects. This way you are forced to know
what you are doing.

Otherwise use XP and in a year or so when there is little out there for it
you will be posting, Eish where can find this for the OLD xp or how come XP
doesn't have support for this... etc...

 

[mikeyhsd]

whine all you want.
it is REQUIRED that you upgrade to the latest drivers for your system.
like it or not.
celeron is now known for being a FAST processor.



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hey peeps..

Vista is slow... there is no two ways about it... I congratulate you If
your one of the lucky ones who has it working nice with everything.

Specs for this pc - compaq laptop, 1.7 celeron, 256mb graphics, 1gig ram,
came from the shop with vista enabled etc.

So far it takes ages to do everything. Im not interested in upgrading, why
would I want to when I have a desktop pc with bout same specs along with my
buddies laptop of same specs also running XP home edition on both.... AND
BOTH BEAT THE CRAP OUTTA THIS VISTA OS ON *EVERYTHING*.

Someone explain that.. And dont mention upgrades or programs installed or
uninstalled or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos Im not
interested. I want an answer.

There have been HUGE amounts of posts about people being unhappy about
vista so Its not just me. If we can -Download- AND play -dawn of war- AND
-listen to music- on both our other machines then why not vista.

And once again dont mention upgrades or programs installed or uninstalled
or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos Im not interested.

I just hope microsoft sort this crap soon cos we pay thru the teeth for
software like this and I spent all my hard earned cash from my job buying
this and now Im skint as fek and CANNOT afford these mistakes from a
MULTIBILLIONAIR corperation.

 

[Dave Cox]

My machine is neither underpowered nor slow with Vista.
I just don't like having the accelerator in the trunk and the
gearshift in the wheelwell.
Vista is getting a bad reputation because it was poorley designed,
not because it is sold on underpowered machines.

Can you elaborate on why you think it's poorly designed? Other then
"accelerator in the trunk and the gearshift in the wheelwell".
All that statment says to me is you think Vista is different and you
have issues not accepting that fact.

I personally find the new UI extremely intuitive and simple to
navigate. what ever I need to look for I just type it in search and
it always shows up. IE7 works (I did have an issue with Flash but
have since found the fix)I like the new Windows Explorer and the
dynamic tool bars and buttons that change accordingly to the folder
types. I like the Navigation options, the new user folder structure
is so much easier to navigate and manage especially with Public
foldres. Networking between two Vista machines was painless. Office
2007 works without any issues that I have come across.

UAC was different but once I took the time to read about it and why
it is there I accepted it. It's only one or two damn clicks of the
mouse for crying out loud! if and now WHEN it happens which is very
rare now I have all my software installed. People that are trying to
install yesterday's software on tommorows Operating System and bitch
because it doesn't work like it use to just amazes me.

Have I had issues? Sure I've had, mainly display problems with
nvidia drivers, But I don't blame Microsoft for that. Nvidia needs to
get off their ass and make decent Vista compatable drivers.

Why did I change to Vista? I just like new experiences to me XP was
old and boring. Had I used my PC to make a living on would I have
upgraded at this time? Hell NO! anyone who just thought they would
upgrade a business machine thinking it would make them more
productive this early in the game no matter what OS it is is a fool.


Is Vista slower then XP on the same system of today? Sure it is but
then again Microsoft had tommorows hardware in mind when they made
Vista. If you think there are a lot of people whinning today about
their old hardware not working on Vista just look ahead a couple of
years and see what would be said if Microsoft hadn't looked
forward now " Microsoft sucks they knew hardware changes fast why
didn't they write code to take advantage of it " Now that would be
something to bitch about.

In MHO Vista is getting a bad rap because people are making unfounded
claims against it when 98 % of the time it is their own inablility
to adjust to something new or their rush to jump into Vista without
taking the time to see if what they already have (Hardware/software)
is up to Vistas demands.

Should Microsoft have done a better job explaining that Vista is a
new breed and been more upfront about why they made changes to the
UI and why it requires so much horsepower? Most definately! But we
do have to take responsibilty for our own actions. If anyone jumped
on Vistas bandwagon without first doing some simple reading and
researching Vistas new UI and hardware requirements it's no ones
fault but thier own.



Dave

 

[Jon]

Why did I change to Vista? I just like new experiences to me XP was
old and boring.

I'd go along with that.

Worth installing if only to escape the repetitiveness of
windowsxp.general.......

........although I suspect there'll be a few more thousand enquiries on how
to add an item to Vista's 'Sendto' menu, before the year is out.

 

[Adam Albright]

"Companies like Dell and HP are selling underpowered..."
Exactly the same thing happened when Windows XP was released.
It seems the new operating system always has a "sinking" reputation
until the next is released.

Total nonsensical statement. Oh wait, it's only Jupiter, that's the
only kind he ever makes.

MVP = Mostly valueless Poster

 

[PvdG42]

Celerons are slow with any operating system. People who have good
performance are NOT using these processors.

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Absolutely. Cheap, underpowered laptop with a bad CPU and insufficient
memory. That 256 meg video is SHARED, not dedicated.

 

[Guest]

Hmm.. seems like I opened a can of worms last night, then woke up to find
it still squirming. Lol.....

First off..... XP did have lots wrong with it and there were forums just
like these with ppl saying shtuff like this... and now look, they sorted it.
It needs ppl saying its not working to get them actually earning their money
and release some damn updates that improve the system. I really hope that in
a couple of years they will have sorted this problem with vista and it will
run better than XP..... BUT ITS NOW THAT COUNTS. Im not in the next year and
I dont want to upgrade. Maybe I should have done my homework and got better
job and wife and 2 kids and BMW and so have money to upgrade, but I didnt,
and neither do the majority of the world. Climb off your high horse.

Second... I didnt want opinions on how to clear my startup progs etc.
although thanks as you were trying to help. I am whining and said congrats if
yours works fine... All I seem to get on these forums Is 90% Idiots saying
some sarcastic crap. How about you take the insults away from being personal
and try to form a community telling microsoft that vista just isnt ready yet
(for most ppl).

Third... Celeron isnt THIS slow so its not the power of the laptop. I
remember having a really cak computer all those years ago and running some
games I tried on this and it just doesnt work. If vista needs that much power
then its NOT READY and they should not be selling it to ppl for general use.
Vista WILL become the next OS used same way as 95, 98, XP and all the niggly
bits between. But not yet. I will await yet more piles of crap in reply with
the occasional diamond in the rough. i.e. what val said about the power as
that was something different.. I checked and its not that.... and to Will_s
I say the reason I posted and said dont give answers on the various issues is
cos IV TRIED these things. I want answers like vals or support of ppl who are
in similar situations not from fools looking to jab a finger.

What I would prefer in reply is if ppl have constructive criticism or good
progs that work with vista. Maybe also some info on some dude saying "yeah
but I saw an article saying Microsoft are working hard to sort and there is
an update out in august which sorts lots of these issues" (im dreaming here
methinks). Otherwise Im gonna take this back and get XP home until vista
works properly. I will keep you posted on this progress.

And be warned... all Idiots will be laughed at with much hillarity and
rolling around on the floor with much merryment. yarp... The munky has
spoken....

 

[Richard Urban]

Sorry to inform you but a Celeron ***IS*** that slow, due to the lack of a
proper on-die cache.

Celeron is the cheapest of the cheap. No computer has ever given a good
write up of a Celeron.

You get what you pay for.

***YOU*** got what you paid for. Now you have to live with it.

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

 

[Paul Smith]

Go and return your PC, and buy a better PC. The cheapest systems will
always perform terribly, that's why they're cheap.

--
Paul Smith,
Yeovil, UK.
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
http://www.windowsresource.net/

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[Frank]

Total nonsensical statement. Oh wait, it's only Jupiter, that's the
only kind he ever makes.

MVP = Mostly valueless Poster

There he goes again!
Open with an insult!
You're out of control georgie boy. You need to step away from your
computer and get control of yourself.
Your worthless bandwidth sucking gibberish will no longer be tolerated
in this ng.
Frank

 

[Richard Urban]

See where YOUR processor is on this list. It barely makes the bottom.

http://www.systemshootouts.org/processors.html

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

 

[Guest]

Sorry but your wrong in a few ways and right in others.

I agree the performance is not amazing but Iv used other lower end
celerons in the past and games and dvd's work fine you just cant pump em up
to a decent graphics etc... this thing wont run properly...

It takes ages to open a notepad document or just as long to open the game.
I even put the halo demo on with all specs at lowest then all specs at
highest and it ran EXACTLY the same. Surly if the system just couldnt handle
it then at higher specs it would either not run or run even SLOWER. but it
doesnt. Why cant you understand its not the specs. I bet u when I get em to
put XP home on it will run the game just fine.

This OS is not ready. If I need a high end computer to run the same progs,
old and new, on a vista OS then I think value for money (which is important
to those without much) is not being had with the current OS. I am not keen on
microsoft and would like to learn to use linux but microsoft have offered the
most friendly and easy to use OS till vista. That will change when vista gets
an overhaul just like previous incarnations of windows have.

All of you who say "well you get what you payed for etc.." just come out
sounding snobbish basicly saying "I have more money than u, deal with
it"..... I sincerely hope you dont mean it in that way and I try to think
the best of ppl but I accept some peeps really dont care and seem to browse
forums with the sole aim of putting people down. I hope it makes their lives
truly better and does them some good (like running into a lamppost).
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Go and return your PC, and buy a better PC. The cheapest systems will
always perform terribly, that's why they're cheap.

--
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Yeovil, UK.
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
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[Paul Smith]

It takes ages to open a notepad document or just as long to open the game.

Then the system is not suitable for the purposes of which it was sold and
should be returned, and either replaced or fixed.

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Yeovil, UK.
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User.
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[Guest]

I kind of agree but there are things Microsoft can do. If Vista isnt up to
scratch AND suppliers are selling pc's that are not good enough then sounds
like they both have a responsibility to correct that problem. What is going
to happen is Microsoft will improve vista and suppliers will be as crap as
ever. But im not using vista on this machine when XP will run better. When
the standard of pc's rise to fit vista and vista becomes (which it will) more
compatable THEN I'll buy a new pc. Till then XP all the way as its now stable
and been out for years so has been tweaked by MS.

 

[Alun Harford]

Sorry but your wrong in a few ways and right in others.

I agree the performance is not amazing but Iv used other lower end
celerons in the past and games and dvd's work fine you just cant pump em up
to a decent graphics etc... this thing wont run properly...

It takes ages to open a notepad document or just as long to open the game.
I even put the halo demo on with all specs at lowest then all specs at
highest and it ran EXACTLY the same.

Sounds to me like your hard drive is spinning down to save power, and
you're having to wait for it to spin back up. Check your power settings.

Alun Harford

 

[Bill Yanaire]

So you fall into the 90% Idiot category? You can afford a BMW and you have
a Celeron? Don't think so (BMW of course)

Maybe your Monkey needs spanking

 

[TheEnemyWithin]

Celerons are slow with any operating system. People who have good
performance are NOT using these processors.

This is incorrect. The last celerons had the same base as pentium 4, only
the cache was different.
The real reasons for the downplay of celerons are 2.

1) A bad history with older celerons that were indeed slower
2) Its all about marketing (its too complicated to get into this now)


I have done a comparison a while back between normal pentiums and celerons
of the same speed...

the difference was minimal

for example a celeron at 2600mhz was faster than a pentium 4 at 2400mhz

 

[Guest]

1- Ill have you know I spank my munky daily.
2- I dont have a BMW thats what I was saying.
3- What the hell is your point, looks like your one of the 90% I was talking
about.

 

[Adam Albright]

There he goes again!
Open with an insult!
You're out of control georgie boy. You need to step away from your
computer and get control of yourself.
Your worthless bandwidth sucking gibberish will no longer be tolerated
in this ng.
Frank

You have problems with facts don't you Frank. You sound more and more
like Justin every day. Are you really Justin? Odd that you've been
flapping your gums non stop and suddenly the idiot known as Justin has
disappeared. Come clean Frankie.