Vista is SO SLOW

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hey peeps..

Vista is slow... there is no two ways about it... I congratulate you If
your one of the lucky ones who has it working nice with everything.

Specs for this pc - compaq laptop, 1.7 celeron, 256mb graphics, 1gig ram,
came from the shop with vista enabled etc.

So far it takes ages to do everything. Im not interested in upgrading, why
would I want to when I have a desktop pc with bout same specs along with my
buddies laptop of same specs also running XP home edition on both.... AND
BOTH BEAT THE CRAP OUTTA THIS VISTA OS ON *EVERYTHING*.

Someone explain that.. And dont mention upgrades or programs installed or
uninstalled or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos Im not
interested. I want an answer.

There have been HUGE amounts of posts about people being unhappy about
vista so Its not just me. If we can -Download- AND play -dawn of war- AND
-listen to music- on both our other machines then why not vista.

And once again dont mention upgrades or programs installed or uninstalled
or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos Im not interested.

I just hope microsoft sort this crap soon cos we pay thru the teeth for
software like this and I spent all my hard earned cash from my job buying
this and now Im skint as fek and CANNOT afford these mistakes from a
MULTIBILLIONAIR corperation.
 
AnaLoGMunKy said:
Someone explain that.. And dont mention upgrades or programs
installed or uninstalled or spyware hack crap or that they havnt
had any probs cos Im not interested. I want an answer.
Click to expand...

No, you obviously do not want an answer, the above proves it.

You just want to whine and now you have, feel better?
 
Hey Ana--

Make sure you do what it takes to make it as fast as possible. It would be
faster if you upgraded your hardware, but you can still make it run very
decently with what you have.

Speed PC and Control CPU Tips/Steps

SPEED AND CPU:

_______________

1) Trim processes you don't need in TM. Google them or "search engine of

your choice them" if you have to.

2) Go to

services.msc in run box and turn off services not needed and there are some.

SERVICE CONFIGURATION REFERENCES*

*Vista Services*

Part One

http://www.tweakvista.com/article38662.aspx

Part Two

http://www.tweakvista.com/article38664.aspx

Windows Vista Services Tweak Guide v1.0

http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=87443


3) Run System File Checker.

SFC: http://www.updatexp.com/scannow-sfc.html

In Vista run it from an elevated command prompt. Right click command on

start and run as administrator.

4) Run 3 or so spyware scans Windows Defender, , Adaware, and Spybot

5) Probably the most important for speed consistently and efficient resource

use DEFRAG with www.raxco.com or www.diskeeeper.com with 15% free space on

drive if DK and or >5% if Raxco's Perfect Disk.

http://groups.msn.com/windowsxpcentral/spyware.msnw

Download Adaware and

Spybot from here.

GOOD Overall Review for Defending Your PC:

http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/

MSFT Defense Site MSFT Security:

http://www.microsoft.com/security/default.mspx

Protect Your PC from MSFT Security:

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.mspx

MSFT Windows Defender

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx

MSFT MSRT: (Malicious Software Removal Tool)

http://www.microsoft.com/security/malwareremove/default.mspx



MSFT "Windows One Care" in Wings (AV and Spyware Scans)

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2005/may05/05-13WindowsOneCarePR.mspx

6) Unck items from msconfig start tab you don't need starting and some

won't start--peoiple who think just uncking for many are naive because there

are 12 places things can be started including several reg keys like Run Once

keys and there are serveral.

7) Turn off Messaging service--it's a security vulnerability and it slows

you

8) Defrag very often every other day actually.

9) Turn off indexing.

10) Clear TIF and %temp% files (delete) and go to safe mode to get as many

as u can.

10) Do troubleshooting with msconfig.

11) Do Clean boot with msconfig utility and search for the directions here:





Vista RTM Tweak Guide (Tweaks to Improve Performances)

http://www.google.com/search?source...,GGLJ:2006-47,GGLJ:en&q=vista+rtm+tweak+guide



1) Task Manager lists the services on the services tab in Vista.

2) Type services.msc in run box and using the list of services, click the

service and you'll get a description of services.

3) There is a list here of the default services and a description>>click

"default settings for services" in the left pane.

http://technet2.microsoft.com/Windo...afb8-43ce-b39d-50e6d5b89bf81033.mspx?mfr=true



4) To view service dependencies

1.

Open Services.

2.

In the details pane, right-click the service that you want to view

dependencies for, and then click Properties.

3.

Click the Dependencies tab.

4.

To view services that are associated dependencies of the selected service,

in the list on the Dependencies tab, click the plus sign next to the

service.

Many of the services but not all in Vista are the same as in XP, so in that

context:

http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/services.htm


Also see the extremely helpful site:

Black Viper's Service List

http://www.dead-eye.net/WinXP Services.htm


Black Viper's Site (Many of the same services in Vista)

http://www.dead-eye.net/WinXP Services.htm


http://www.z123.org/techsupport/xpservices.htm


http://www.geocities.com/ziyadhosein/xpserv1.htm


http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php

This will be helpful

http://web.archive.org/web/20041128084144/www.blackviper.com/WinXP/servicecfg.htm

______________________________________________________________________________________________

How to troubleshoot by using the System Configuration utility in Windows XP

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310560/

Resources for troubleshooting startup problems in Windows XP

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308041/

How to perform advanced clean-boot troubleshooting in Windows XP

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;316434

How to perform a clean boot in Windows XP

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353/

How to Disable a Service or Device that Prevents Windows from Starting

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310602/



Also ck out these references:

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,5155,00.asp



http://www.speedupyourcomputer.windowsreinstall.com/index.htm

and

http://www.extremetech.com/search_r...=how+to+speed+windows+xp&filterapp=&site=4P.S.



Defragging with a decent defrag every day will make a huge dent inefficient

resource/CPU use.

Perfect Disk has a 5 month full functionality trial on now for Windows

Vista.

Good luck,

CH
 
AnaLoGMunKy said:
There have been HUGE amounts of posts about people being unhappy about
vista so Its not just me.
Click to expand...

Because people like me who have taken advantage of the WEI and now my Vista
runs like lightning and of course I am not going to waste my time going
around posting how great it is and most people who are happy with Vista knew
what to do and now that is up to you. YOUR CALL!!!
 
No one seems to get this....so think hard:

Companies like Dell and HP are selling underpowered crap with only Vista as
an option. The reputation of the OS is sinking on this simple fact.

Chad Harris said:
Hey Ana--

Make sure you do what it takes to make it as fast as possible. It would
be faster if you upgraded your hardware, but you can still make it run
very decently with what you have.

Speed PC and Control CPU Tips/Steps

SPEED AND CPU:

_______________

1) Trim processes you don't need in TM. Google them or "search engine of

your choice them" if you have to.

2) Go to

services.msc in run box and turn off services not needed and there are
some.

SERVICE CONFIGURATION REFERENCES*

*Vista Services*

Part One

http://www.tweakvista.com/article38662.aspx

Part Two

http://www.tweakvista.com/article38664.aspx

Windows Vista Services Tweak Guide v1.0

http://www.msfn.org/board/index.php?showtopic=87443


3) Run System File Checker.

SFC: http://www.updatexp.com/scannow-sfc.html

In Vista run it from an elevated command prompt. Right click command on

start and run as administrator.

4) Run 3 or so spyware scans Windows Defender, , Adaware, and Spybot

5) Probably the most important for speed consistently and efficient
resource

use DEFRAG with www.raxco.com or www.diskeeeper.com with 15% free space on

drive if DK and or >5% if Raxco's Perfect Disk.

http://groups.msn.com/windowsxpcentral/spyware.msnw

Download Adaware and

Spybot from here.

GOOD Overall Review for Defending Your PC:

http://defendingyourmachine.blogspot.com/

MSFT Defense Site MSFT Security:

http://www.microsoft.com/security/default.mspx

Protect Your PC from MSFT Security:

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/protect/default.mspx

MSFT Windows Defender

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/spyware/software/default.mspx

MSFT MSRT: (Malicious Software Removal Tool)

http://www.microsoft.com/security/malwareremove/default.mspx



MSFT "Windows One Care" in Wings (AV and Spyware Scans)

http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/press/2005/may05/05-13WindowsOneCarePR.mspx

6) Unck items from msconfig start tab you don't need starting and some

won't start--peoiple who think just uncking for many are naive because
there

are 12 places things can be started including several reg keys like Run
Once

keys and there are serveral.

7) Turn off Messaging service--it's a security vulnerability and it slows

you

8) Defrag very often every other day actually.

9) Turn off indexing.

10) Clear TIF and %temp% files (delete) and go to safe mode to get as many

as u can.

10) Do troubleshooting with msconfig.

11) Do Clean boot with msconfig utility and search for the directions
here:





Vista RTM Tweak Guide (Tweaks to Improve Performances)

http://www.google.com/search?source...,GGLJ:2006-47,GGLJ:en&q=vista+rtm+tweak+guide



1) Task Manager lists the services on the services tab in Vista.

2) Type services.msc in run box and using the list of services, click the

service and you'll get a description of services.

3) There is a list here of the default services and a description>>click

"default settings for services" in the left pane.

http://technet2.microsoft.com/Windo...afb8-43ce-b39d-50e6d5b89bf81033.mspx?mfr=true



4) To view service dependencies

1.

Open Services.

2.

In the details pane, right-click the service that you want to view

dependencies for, and then click Properties.

3.

Click the Dependencies tab.

4.

To view services that are associated dependencies of the selected service,

in the list on the Dependencies tab, click the plus sign next to the

service.

Many of the services but not all in Vista are the same as in XP, so in
that

context:

http://www.mvps.org/winhelp2002/services.htm


Also see the extremely helpful site:

Black Viper's Service List

http://www.dead-eye.net/WinXP Services.htm


Black Viper's Site (Many of the same services in Vista)

http://www.dead-eye.net/WinXP Services.htm


http://www.z123.org/techsupport/xpservices.htm


http://www.geocities.com/ziyadhosein/xpserv1.htm


http://www.pacs-portal.co.uk/startup_content.php

This will be helpful

http://web.archive.org/web/20041128084144/www.blackviper.com/WinXP/servicecfg.htm

______________________________________________________________________________________________

How to troubleshoot by using the System Configuration utility in Windows
XP

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310560/

Resources for troubleshooting startup problems in Windows XP

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/308041/

How to perform advanced clean-boot troubleshooting in Windows XP

http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;316434

How to perform a clean boot in Windows XP

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310353/

How to Disable a Service or Device that Prevents Windows from Starting

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310602/



Also ck out these references:

http://www.extremetech.com/article2/0,1558,5155,00.asp



http://www.speedupyourcomputer.windowsreinstall.com/index.htm

and

http://www.extremetech.com/search_r...=how+to+speed+windows+xp&filterapp=&site=4P.S.



Defragging with a decent defrag every day will make a huge dent
inefficient

resource/CPU use.

Perfect Disk has a 5 month full functionality trial on now for Windows

Vista.

Good luck,

CH
Click to expand...
 
Check in your power plan that the CPU isn't being unnecessarily throtled
down.

Control Panel/ Power Options/ Change Plan Settings/Change Advanced power
Settings/Processor Power Management

On my Compaq, the default was processor Maximum state at 50%, on battery or
PLUGGED IN! Thanks, HP/Compaq, for picking a dumb setting.

Val
 
Also turn Aero OFF if it is on....

Val said:
Check in your power plan that the CPU isn't being unnecessarily throtled
down.

Control Panel/ Power Options/ Change Plan Settings/Change Advanced power
Settings/Processor Power Management

On my Compaq, the default was processor Maximum state at 50%, on battery
or PLUGGED IN! Thanks, HP/Compaq, for picking a dumb setting.

Val
Click to expand...
 
Celerons are slow with any operating system. People who have good
performance are NOT using these processors.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)
 
"Companies like Dell and HP are selling underpowered..."
Exactly the same thing happened when Windows XP was released.
It seems the new operating system always has a "sinking" reputation
until the next is released.
 
No. I bought computers from companies for a laboratory at that time. When
XP came out, only computers *completely* functional and efficient with the
product were sold.

Now we have computers that are being sold that are completely
under-equipped.
 
THEN THE COMPUTERS SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN SOLD!!!!!!!!


Richard Urban said:
Celerons are slow with any operating system. People who have good
performance are NOT using these processors.

--


Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)
Click to expand...
 
Do you really think that these buyers are going "oh! I made a mistake with
my hardware)"? NO. They are trashing Microsoft and the OS.

Microsoft shot itself in the foot here...they had control and now have lost
it.


Telstar said:
THEN THE COMPUTERS SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN SOLD!!!!!!!!
Click to expand...
 
Finally, as a Microsoft user for over twenty years, this really, really does
strike me as a shove it down your throat approach.
 
AnaLoGMunKy said:
hey peeps..

Vista is slow... there is no two ways about it... I congratulate you If
your one of the lucky ones who has it working nice with everything.

Specs for this pc - compaq laptop, 1.7 celeron, 256mb graphics, 1gig ram,
came from the shop with vista enabled etc.
Click to expand...

1.7 celeron ..... well if you cant see it then thats it
So far it takes ages to do everything. Im not interested in upgrading, why
would I want to when I have a desktop pc with bout same specs along with
my
buddies laptop of same specs also running XP home edition on both.... AND
BOTH BEAT THE CRAP OUTTA THIS VISTA OS ON *EVERYTHING*.
Click to expand...

then keepXP
Someone explain that.. And dont mention upgrades or programs installed or
uninstalled or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos Im
not
interested. I want an answer.
Click to expand...

So you only want an answer if it suits you
There have been HUGE amounts of posts about people being unhappy about
vista so Its not just me. If we can -Download- AND play -dawn of war- AND
-listen to music- on both our other machines then why not vista.
Click to expand...


You dont see huge amounts of posts in the XP forums about people been happy
with XP but you see heaps of posts about people having problems. That must
mean that XP is a horrible system
And once again dont mention upgrades or programs installed or uninstalled
or spyware hack crap or that they havnt had any probs cos Im not
interested.
Click to expand...

Well why bother posting here
I just hope microsoft sort this crap soon cos we pay thru the teeth for
software like this and I spent all my hard earned cash from my job buying
this and now Im skint as fek and CANNOT afford these mistakes from a
MULTIBILLIONAIR corperation.
Click to expand...

Well you didnt do your homework did you
 
My machine is neither underpowered nor slow with Vista.
I just don't like having the accelerator in the trunk and the gearshift in
the wheelwell.
Vista is getting a bad reputation because it was poorley designed, not
because it is sold on underpowered machines.

Telstar said:
No one seems to get this....so think hard:

Companies like Dell and HP are selling underpowered crap with only Vista
as an option. The reputation of the OS is sinking on this simple fact.
Click to expand...
 
I make sure to turn off all the fancy slide out menus, shadowing, etc etc
etc.
Don't ever "let Windows decide" what is best for your machine.
I prefer to configure for best performance.
right click my computer>properties
click advanced system settings
tell the User Access Control nag me to death screen, yes, it's really,
really, really me.
on advanced tab, performance section, click settings
click in the 'adjust for best performance' circle, click apply.
wait for it to apply your settings.
at the bottom of the control panel/system & maintenance/system screen (which
is what should show after you close advanced settings)
click performance
click indexing options
turn indexing off
your machine should now run faster.
 
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