Vista doesn't print to an old HP Deskjet 870Cse printer (parallelconnection)...

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Yes, PCMCIA parallel port cards are available, and yes they are
significantly more expensive!

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...PA=0&Description=pcmcia+parallel+port&x=0&y=0


Also, seeing as we're now talking about a laptop, there are docking
stations that have an assortment of ports, either replicated from the
laptop or extra ports.

However, given that it's a laptop, buy a new printer.
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Yeah, a new printer indeed after seeing that price (not with taxes
either). She can just skip all that mess and get a new printer for that
price. :) She doesn't even have a job (looking for one and can't even
print--poor her). :(
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In host based printing, all of the image formation is done in the host
computer .... the only thing sent to the printer is an array of dots
(pixels) to print. Conversion of both text and graphics into the raster
image (pixel dots) is done in the computer, while in more conventional
printing, this is done in the printer.
 
Interesting, so basically it's like software vs. hardware for
performance. How can one tell if the printer is host-based or not? I
wonder if my Hewlett Packard Photosmart 8450 printer (USB) is a
host-based too. Same for other printers I used: HP Epson 785 EPX, old
SuperNEC 860(?), etc.


In host based printing, all of the image formation is done in the host
computer .... the only thing sent to the printer is an array of dots
(pixels) to print. Conversion of both text and graphics into the raster
image (pixel dots) is done in the computer, while in more conventional
printing, this is done in the printer.
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I got an e-mail reply from Belkin finally, and it is confirmed Vista
won't work with it:

"Hi Ant ,

Thank you for contacting Belkin Technical Support.

We understand that are facing a problem to take a print windows vista.

To resolve the issue,please follow the below instruction

This product doesn`t support windows vista and we don`t have any drivers
for this product. We have a driver for 2000, Xp, 98SE.

If you need further assistance please feel free to write back to us and
we will be happy to assist you.

Ant, if you have any other questions or problems you may also call us
toll free at 800-223-5546 (Extn. 21). Alternatively, call us on 310 898
1100 Ext. 21.

Regards,

Vincent Connors
Belkin Technical Support"


Hello.

I have an old college friend who has a fairly new Gateway computer from
April/May 2007. It came with Windows Vista. She has a printing problem
with her old HP Deskjet 870Cse printer (parallel connection).

She bought a Belkin USB Parallel Printer Adapter (part number F5U002v1).
She says the box doesn't say Vista support. Is this a problem? I don't
think it is since it is just a cable adapter.

When she tries to print, Vista saves as a XPS file and not send to the
printer. I read that XPS is like PDF. It sounds like Vista doesn't have
her printer connected (asked her to check -- I hope she knows how to
find it).

http://h10032.www1.hp.com/ctg/Manual/bpd04246.pdf for the PDF manual.

Based on
http://h10025.www1.hp.com/ewfrf/wc/...8543&lc=en&cc=us&dlc=en&product=61012&lang=en
... Vista knows about this printer so no downloaded driver needed.

I am helping her through e-mails since she isn't close by for me to visit.

Any ideas? Thank you in advance. :)
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Ant said:
Interesting, so basically it's like software vs. hardware for performance.
How can one tell if the printer is host-based or not? I wonder if my
Hewlett Packard Photosmart 8450 printer (USB) is a host-based too. Same
for other printers I used: HP Epson 785 EPX, old SuperNEC 860(?), etc.
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None of the HP Photosmart printers are host based. HP host based inkjet
printers included the DeskJet 820, 1000 and all of the 700 series DeskJets.

Regards,
Bob Headrick, MS MVP Printing/Imaging
 
None of the HP Photosmart printers are host based. HP host based inkjet
printers included the DeskJet 820, 1000 and all of the 700 series DeskJets.
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Ah. How about other brands like Epson, old SuperNEC 870 (laser), etc.?
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In host based printing, all of the image formation is done in the host
computer .... the only thing sent to the printer is an array of dots
(pixels) to print. Conversion of both text and graphics into the raster
image (pixel dots) is done in the computer, while in more conventional
printing, this is done in the printer.
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What doesnt make sense is, how does this make the use of an alternative port
like USB or ethernet less effective for these host printers???? Since the
image should already have been formed in the PC using its resources, why isnt
it just sending the prinout thru the requested port? All the hard work has
already been done!!!!!
 
Not so much hardware vs. software as WHICH hardware .... a CPU in the PC
or a CPU in the printer. There is no easy way to tell if a given
printer is host based.
 
The software in the printer driver (the HP driver) does not see the USB
port as the parallel port that it is looking for. I don't think the
fact that it's host-based, per se, is part of the problem. It's a
matter of how the software in the driver works to send the data to the
printer.
 
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