Vista advantages

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Thus how to run batch and other scripts. I do not need to write script
name, I just drag it to command prompt and write some parameters and it
is faster.
I have a lot of scripts. To create users in Active directory, I paste
the new users list (sometimes there is 1000 users at one time) to the
text file than I run proper script which read line by line and create
new users in the AD. Without possibility to drag and drop I need to
write the script name and the path manually and it is really time consuming.


MarcusB
 
I don't... I was just testing it... for the 2 or 3 people who may want to
use it ;-)

When you drag an image there, it shows the complete path to the image. That
may be useful if you're writing a batch file or something..

However, in Vista and Win 7, you can copy the breadcrumb trail as text, and
paste that. Though it wouldn't include the image file name. I do use this
feature regularly.
 
More to explain. I was testing not only for myself. I am IT
administrator and we have 120 computers at our department. I was looking
for good arguments to move to the Vista. For the last 2 years we was
downgrading all new bought computers to Windows XP. I need to have
arguments to move to Vista and I have to have arguments to stay with XP.
I was testing Vista on new Fujitsu-Siemens Computers with 3.3 Ghz CPU
with 4GB RAM. For myself I was testing on new i7 CPU.
Besides better firewall I did not found any arguments for staying with
Vista. More argument I have than better.
All our computers are connected to the Active directory and all users
are loging to the domain. People are using a lot of different software.
From very text based dos programs to the very advanced windows
applications. They also use programming software like Visial Studio,
Matlab, Satistical software etc.. and standard office and mail client
software.

MarcusB
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Here's you go then, for your corporate setting:

1. There are no advantages to Vista in a corporate environment
2. There are many feature downgrades that will annoy your users
3. Older hardware (and not all that old) will be unusable
4. System performance will be greatly reduced
5. Older network hardware will be troublesome
6. Older peripherals will be unsupported
7. You'll need to retrain users
8. Your support costs/load will increase dramatically with no payback

Need any more?
 
Thank you very much

MarcusB+Bob+ said:
Here's you go then, for your corporate setting:

1. There are no advantages to Vista in a corporate environment
2. There are many feature downgrades that will annoy your users
3. Older hardware (and not all that old) will be unusable
4. System performance will be greatly reduced
5. Older network hardware will be troublesome
6. Older peripherals will be unsupported
7. You'll need to retrain users
8. Your support costs/load will increase dramatically with no payback

Need any more?
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MarcusB said:
Thank you very much
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What you do is get a Vista machine and try it in different scenarios within
the workplace, ensuring that all of the workforce gets to try it out. Then
you make your decision.

Vista works with older hardware, but not ALL older hardware. Visits to
manufacturer websites will be more rewarding than general answers here to
the effect that Vista is crap and works with nothing.

If you are needing to upgrade, you will face the same problems with Windows
7. I am sure that I read somewhere that Vista machines bought during or
after July 2009 will carry offers of upgrade to Windows 7 but I can't
remember details of the offer.
 
Alias' Ass Kicker said:
In your limited capacity. You just can't figure out how Vista works. That
frustrates you to no end. Better stick with DOS 3.1 so it doesn't tax what
little brain you have left.
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Course the hypocritical moron is posting with a computer using XP.

Alias
 
Alias' Ass Kicker said:
In your limited capacity. You just can't figure out how Vista works. That
frustrates you to no end. Better stick with DOS 3.1 so it doesn't tax what
little brain you have left.
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This from a hypocritical moron who is using XP to post.

Alias
 
Alias' Ass Kicker said:
Look who's talking.
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Someone who is using a more modern OS.
At least I am in the MS family of software.
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You have my sincere condolences
You are
using that INFERIOR Linux crap.
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Yeah, the one you have to LIE about in your LAME attempts to refute.
I am surprised that you can even post.
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This is understandable considering how little you know about Ubuntu.

Alias
 
Gordon said:
I still, after 30 years working with computers, from DOS through all
flavours of windows to Vista, UNIX, Linux, C/PM and everything WHY
anyone would even attempt to "drag" anything to a command line!!!!
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You are a low-life double agent and a slithering snake, two-face Gordon.
On one hand, you dance to a tune here in MS Vista-land as a minstrel and
carpetbagger. It's a whole different story out you with MS in COLA-land
as a minstrel and carpetbagger playing that tune.
 
MarcusB said:
More to explain. I was testing not only for myself. I am IT
administrator and we have 120 computers at our department. I was looking
for good arguments to move to the Vista. For the last 2 years we was
downgrading all new bought computers to Windows XP. I need to have
arguments to move to Vista and I have to have arguments to stay with XP.
I was testing Vista on new Fujitsu-Siemens Computers with 3.3 Ghz CPU
with 4GB RAM. For myself I was testing on new i7 CPU.
Besides better firewall I did not found any arguments for staying with
Vista. More argument I have than better.
Click to expand...

The rest of the stuff you're talking about is the eye-candy.

http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc709691.aspx
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/network/WFP.mspx

I want to bring your attention to Address Space Load Randomization,
which was taken from OpenBSD.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Address_space_layout_randomization
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/2007.04.vistakernel.aspx

I want to bring your attention to Longhorn, as Vista is Longhorn with a
lot of reversed engineered Linux and OpenBSD in it as MS brought Unix
and tore it a part.

http://www.plex86.org/linux/Hotmail-Platform-is-Hosted-on-Unix-88.html

1) Vista is a closed by default O/S with a lot of protected areas of the
O/S.

2) It uses UAC and as long as UAC is enabled, one is never an user admin
with full admin rights when running on the Internet, as they are only a
Standard user with Standard user rights until privileged escalation is
required to full-admin-rights.

The full-admin-rights are only for the moment of privileged escalation
and then admin user is returned to a Standard user. UAC mitigates damage
as something such as a malware runs under the context of user rights. If
the rights of the admin-user is Standard user rights as admin-user, this
mitigates damage that can be done.

3) Vista is using reversed engineered Linux and FreeBSD code in the O/S
kernel to better protect itself, such as ASLR and many other things to
better protect the O/S.

4) A lot more software is being developed for Vista that only requires
Standard user rights to execute on Vista, unlike its predecessors.

5)Vista is the best protected workstsion version of the NT based O/S(s)
to date.
 
MarcusB said:
More to explain. I was testing not only for myself. I am IT
administrator and we have 120 computers at our department. I was looking
for good arguments to move to the Vista. For the last 2 years we was
downgrading all new bought computers to Windows XP. I need to have
arguments to move to Vista and I have to have arguments to stay with XP.
I was testing Vista on new Fujitsu-Siemens Computers with 3.3 Ghz CPU
with 4GB RAM. For myself I was testing on new i7 CPU.
Besides better firewall I did not found any arguments for staying with
Vista. More argument I have than better.
All our computers are connected to the Active directory and all users
are loging to the domain. People are using a lot of different software.
From very text based dos programs to the very advanced windows
applications. They also use programming software like Visial Studio,
Matlab, Satistical software etc.. and standard office and mail client
software.
Click to expand...
More to explain. I was testing not only for myself. I am IT
Click to expand...
administrator and we have 120 computers at our department. I was looking
for good arguments to move to the Vista. For the last 2 years we was
downgrading all new bought computers to Windows XP. I need to have
arguments to move to Vista and I have to have arguments to stay with XP.
I was testing Vista on new Fujitsu-Siemens Computers with 3.3 Ghz
Click to expand...
CPU with 4GB RAM. For myself I was testing on new i7 CPU.
Besides better firewall I did not found any arguments for staying
Click to expand...
with Vista. More argument I have than better.

The rest of the stuff you're talking about is the eye-candy.

<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc709691.aspx>
<http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/network/WFP.mspx>

I want to bring your attention to Address Space Load Randomization,
which was taken from OpenBSD.

<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/magazine/2007.04.vistakernel.aspx>

I want to bring your attention to Longhorn, as Vista is Longhorn with a
lot of reversed engineered Linux and OpenBSD in it as MS brought Unix
and tore it a part.

<http://www.plex86.org/linux/Hotmail-Platform-is-Hosted-on-Unix-88.html>

1) Vista is a closed by default O/S with a lot of protected areas of the
O/S.

2) It uses UAC and as long as UAC is enabled, one is never an user admin
with full admin rights when running on the Internet, as they are only a
Standard user with Standard user rights until privileged escalation is
required to full-admin-rights.

The full-admin-rights are only for the moment of privileged escalation
and then admin user is returned to a Standard user. UAC mitigates damage
as something such as a malware runs under the context of user rights. If
the rights of the admin-user is Standard user rights as admin-user, this
mitigates damage that can be done.

3) Vista is using reversed engineered Linux and FreeBSD code in the O/S
kernel to better protect itself, such as ASLR and many other things to
better protect the O/S.

4) A lot more software is being developed for Vista that only requires
Standard user rights to execute on Vista, unlike its predecessors.

5)Vista is the best protected workstsion version of the NT based O/S(s)
to date.
 
MarcusB said:
Thank you very much
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Thank you very much? The man is a loon, and he has not used Vista in a
business setting of any type, count on it.

He's got XP in his garage, and he thinks he is an expert's expert.

I have been in companies that use Vista. If you do your homework, you
will not have any problems with Vista.
 
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