VB.Net is overtaking C#

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Hello,

CJ Taylor said:
I think it would be a lot more powerful if it could
compile Javabyte code which was platform indpendent.
Basically, a .NET version of Java (combine both Java libraries
and .NET).

Who needs Java byte code? Who needs Java?
Which I know this isn't possible right now because .NET only
runs on Windows machines, but hell, the Mono project is
coming along pretty well, or gnunetgtk or whatever its called have
finished like 40% of the framework so far. I mean, they have the
C# and VB compilers done for Unix so why not integrate this with
the Java libraries...

AFAIK Remotesoft (http://www.remotesoft.com/) develops a tool for bringing
..NET and Java together.
 
Hi,

I found it strange but I don't read it anywhere. It seems if everybody
forget that there are millions of ASP web programmers who use vb.script to
make server side webpages. Now they have the change to make better and real
good solid OO serverside web programs, what is possible with the VB.net
language. (Also with C# that has a simple entree for the client side
programmer of the web (javascript) but I think that the serverside
programmers uses more VB.script).

Cor
 
Herfried:

I hope you are kidding. If not, I respectfully disagree. You can't
possibly say that anything Petzold has written 'sucks'. At worst someone
can say they didn't like it, but he's the man, been the man, continues to be
the man. What about Jeffrey Richter's solo .NET book? You can't say that
sucks too? What about John Robbins Debugging Book? What about Mueller's
Book? He couldn't write half of that deals with unsafe code.


I may have given the impression that I think C# is better, nothing could be
further from the truth. But each language has its advantages, and I think
partisans of either side have a little too much time on their hands.

However, something tells me you were just goofing on me and I just made a
jacka33 out of myself.

Either way..I already cried uncle, I was wrong.

:-) ''''And for penance, I will never, ever, ever get into a discussion
that includes C# and VB.NET in the same paragraph.
 
Hello,

Cor said:
I found it strange but I don't read it anywhere. It seems if
everybody forget that there are millions of ASP web
programmers who use vb.script to make server side webpages.

Programmers <> Web Programmers

;-)
 
I will agree with one cavaet. Option Strict should be on by default. I
have been in x hundred numbers of arguments with VB6 programmers who won't
type their code and Pound their Spoons of their baby seats about the loss of
Variant. I could get my puppy to eat broccoli easier than convincing them
of not using Variant.

IMHO, VB got the whole unfair reputation b/c it let developers write stuff
(ie be productive) at the expense of writing code. Most professional
programmers didn't opt for this route but Many, too many did. There are
still too many of these folks. As far as MS goes..they are't embracing
VB.NET (their developers) b/c of 1) most of their developers are used to
C++/C and 2) A lot of code would need to be unsafe 3) They don't like cats
who espouse variant data type virtues calling them their peers <just kidding
on #3>

I have noticed though, that when I read MSDN, I don't see any advertisements
bragging about either 100% Visual Basic .NET or 100% .NET..it's always 100%
Managed Code in C#.

I think in the end, I think the nuances balance out. But when it's all said
and done, VB.NET isn't going to erase C# or Vice Versa. They are both here
to stay.

Cheers,

Bill
 
But the last few months, its geting much more traffic.

While that might be true, I also feel that the signal-to-noise ratio
has dropped here lately.



Mattias
 
Hi,

I found it strange but I don't read it anywhere. It seems if everybody
forget that there are millions of ASP web programmers who use vb.script to
make server side webpages. Now they have the change to make better and real
good solid OO serverside web programs, what is possible with the VB.net
language. (Also with C# that has a simple entree for the client side
programmer of the web (javascript) but I think that the serverside
programmers uses more VB.script).

Cor

Someone hit the nail on the head! A lot of web developers only have
experience with ASP, VBScript, Javascript, etc. Which of the two
languages do you think they will prefer? I have already seen former
C++ guys that have been doing web development for the last 5 years
gravitate with a heavy bias toward VB.Net.

Just think of all the people that have done VBScript or VBA over the
last 5-6 years... They are going to be like ducks in water with
VB.Net.
 
Herfried K. Wagner said:
Hello,



According to Microsoft, VB.NET is "The most productive tool for building
.NET-connected applications".

The roadmap is fairly clear; VB.NET will be "dumbed down" with more
automation to reduce the amount of time it takes to complete common
programming tasks and C# will evolve to include more advanced language
features.

Also, the fact that the VB.NET newsgroup is getting full doesn't necessarily
mean that it is overtaking C#, mearly that people are having more problems
with it! ;-)
 
Hello,

Ed Crowley said:
The roadmap is fairly clear; VB.NET will be "dumbed down"
with more automation to reduce the amount of time it takes
to complete common programming tasks and C# will evolve
to include more advanced language features.

I don't think so. Advanced language features will, according to the
roadmap, included in VB.NET too.
 
Herfried K. Wagner said:
Hello,



I don't think so. Advanced language features will, according to the
roadmap, included in VB.NET too.

Yes, but not as advanced as those being introduced to C#. I believe it is
Microsoft's intention to keep C# at the "bleeding edge" of the .NET
languages.
 
Hello,

Ed Crowley said:
Yes, but not as advanced as those being introduced to C#. I
believe it is Microsoft's intention to keep C# at the "bleeding
edge" of the .NET languages.

;-)
 
We all know that VB.NET is the best language ever.

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: Herfried:
:
: I hope you are kidding. If not, I respectfully disagree. You can't
: possibly say that anything Petzold has written 'sucks'. At worst someone
: can say they didn't like it, but he's the man, been the man, continues to
be
: the man. What about Jeffrey Richter's solo .NET book? You can't say that
: sucks too? What about John Robbins Debugging Book? What about Mueller's
: Book? He couldn't write half of that deals with unsafe code.
:
:
: I may have given the impression that I think C# is better, nothing could
be
: further from the truth. But each language has its advantages, and I think
: partisans of either side have a little too much time on their hands.
:
: However, something tells me you were just goofing on me and I just made a
: jacka33 out of myself.
:
: Either way..I already cried uncle, I was wrong.
:
: :-) ''''And for penance, I will never, ever, ever get into a discussion
: that includes C# and VB.NET in the same paragraph.
: : > Hello,
: >
: > > Yeah, but Francesco did all of the coding.
: > >
: > > Petzold's book does not suck! The words Petzold and suck
: > > shouldn't even be allowed to be used in a sentence..not
: > > even like I just did ;-).
: >
: > If the book is not written in VB.NET, it _sucks_.
: >
: > SCNR
: >
: > --
: > Herfried K. Wagner
: > MVP · VB Classic, VB.NET
: > http://www.mvps.org/dotnet
: >
: >
:
:
 
¤
¤ >But the last few months, its geting much more traffic.
¤
¤ While that might be true, I also feel that the signal-to-noise ratio
¤ has dropped here lately.
¤

Time for a Discussions group?


Paul ~~~ (e-mail address removed)
Microsoft MVP (Visual Basic)
 
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