User Account Suddenly Unaccessable

[CWLee]

Are you sure, since c:\cwlee.bat is not, to my way of
thinking, "in agreement with" c:\Lee.bat

I'm only gently questioning this, and will do it however you
say.

Thanks.

====================

 

[Pegasus [MVP]]

Yes, c:\Lee.bat is the batch file you created and it is the batch file you
need to run.

 

[CWLee]

I received the same error message as before, except that it
"Cannot find the file 'c:\cwlee.bat" ... "

Could this be because step #4 is still not in agreement with
step #10?

Step #4 uses: c:\Lee.bat
Step #10 uses: c:\cwlee.bat

Thanks.

======================

 

[Pegasus [MVP]]

Instead of quibbling over spelling details, let's deal with this tiny issue
in an overall context: Whatever the name of the file created in Step 4, this
is the one you must run. You can do it via the Run box, via Explorer or via
the Command Prompt. Windows Explorer might be your best method because it is
a GUI environment where you can see what's there.

 

[CWLee]

I followed your original set of 12 instructions, changing
#10 to show the same wording after the c:\ in both cases
now being Lee.bat

This time the process seemed to proceed, and I have shown
below, between lines of ^^^ symbols, what came up on
Notepad. (It looked much neater, and easier to read, on my
wider screen than it does below, because of the narrower
margins here.)

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Volume in drive C is Local Disk
Volume Serial Number is 044C-7A08

Directory of C:\Documents and Settings

06/21/2009 02:38p <DIR> .
06/21/2009 02:38p <DIR> ..
04/10/2009 03:02a <DIR> Administrator
07/21/2005 08:20p <DIR> All Users
06/20/2009 07:12p <DIR> CWLEE
06/21/2009 02:29p <DIR> cwlee.System-3
07/21/2005 08:20p <DIR> Default User
0 File(s) 0 bytes
7 Dir(s) 6,915,694,592 bytes free
C:\Documents and Settings\cwlee.System-3\Application Data NT
AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:F
NT
AUTHORITY\SYSTEMOI)(CI)(IO)F
BUILTIN\Administrators:F
BUILTIN\AdministratorsOI)(CI)(IO)F
BUILTIN\Users:R
BUILTIN\UsersOI)(CI)(IO)(special
access

GENERIC_READ

GENERIC_EXECUTE

BUILTIN\Power
Users:R
BUILTIN\Power
UsersOI)(CI)(IO)(special access

GENERIC_READ

GENERIC_EXECUTE

Everyone:R
EveryoneOI)(CI)(IO)(special
access

GENERIC_READ

GENERIC_EXECUTE

SYSTEM-3\cwleeOI)(CI)F

C:\Documents and Settings\cwlee.System-3\Cookies NT
AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:F
NT
AUTHORITY\SYSTEMOI)(CI)(IO)F
BUILTIN\Administrators:F
BUILTIN\AdministratorsOI)(CI)(IO)F
BUILTIN\Users:R
BUILTIN\UsersOI)(CI)(IO)(special
access

GENERIC_READ

GENERIC_EXECUTE

BUILTIN\Power
Users:R
BUILTIN\Power
UsersOI)(CI)(IO)(special access

GENERIC_READ

GENERIC_EXECUTE

Everyone:R
EveryoneOI)(CI)(IO)(special
access

GENERIC_READ

GENERIC_EXECUTE

SYSTEM-3\cwleeOI)(CI)F

C:\Documents and Settings\cwlee.System-3\Desktop NT
AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:F
NT
AUTHORITY\SYSTEMOI)(CI)(IO)F
BUILTIN\Administrators:F
BUILTIN\AdministratorsOI)(CI)(IO)F
BUILTIN\Users:R
BUILTIN\UsersOI)(CI)(IO)(special
access

GENERIC_READ

GENERIC_EXECUTE

BUILTIN\Power
Users:R
BUILTIN\Power
UsersOI)(CI)(IO)(special access

GENERIC_READ

GENERIC_EXECUTE

Everyone:R
EveryoneOI)(CI)(IO)(special
access

GENERIC_READ

GENERIC_EXECUTE

SYSTEM-3\cwleeOI)(CI)F

C:\Documents and Settings\cwlee.System-3\Favorites NT
AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:F
NT
AUTHORITY\SYSTEMOI)(CI)(IO)F
BUILTIN\Administrators:F
BUILTIN\AdministratorsOI)(CI)(IO)F
BUILTIN\Users:R
BUILTIN\UsersOI)(CI)(IO)(special
access

GENERIC_READ

GENERIC_EXECUTE

BUILTIN\Power
Users:R
BUILTIN\Power
UsersOI)(CI)(IO)(special access

GENERIC_READ

GENERIC_EXECUTE

Everyone:R
EveryoneOI)(CI)(IO)(special
access

GENERIC_READ

GENERIC_EXECUTE

SYSTEM-3\cwleeOI)(CI)F

C:\Documents and Settings\cwlee.System-3\Local Settings NT
AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:F
NT
AUTHORITY\SYSTEMOI)(CI)(IO)F
BUILTIN\Administrators:F
BUILTIN\AdministratorsOI)(CI)(IO)F
BUILTIN\Users:R
BUILTIN\UsersOI)(CI)(IO)(special
access

GENERIC_READ

GENERIC_EXECUTE

BUILTIN\Power
Users:R
BUILTIN\Power
UsersOI)(CI)(IO)(special access

GENERIC_READ

GENERIC_EXECUTE

Everyone:R
EveryoneOI)(CI)(IO)(special
access

GENERIC_READ

GENERIC_EXECUTE

SYSTEM-3\cwleeOI)(CI)F

C:\Documents and Settings\cwlee.System-3\NetHood NT
AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:F
NT
AUTHORITY\SYSTEMOI)(CI)(IO)F
BUILTIN\Administrators:F
BUILTIN\AdministratorsOI)(CI)(IO)F
BUILTIN\Users:R
BUILTIN\UsersOI)(CI)(IO)(special
access

GENERIC_READ

GENERIC_EXECUTE

BUILTIN\Power
Users:R
BUILTIN\Power
UsersOI)(CI)(IO)(special access

GENERIC_READ

GENERIC_EXECUTE

Everyone:R
EveryoneOI)(CI)(IO)(special
access

GENERIC_READ

GENERIC_EXECUTE

SYSTEM-3\cwleeOI)(CI)F

C:\Documents and Settings\cwlee.System-3\Recent NT
AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:F
NT
AUTHORITY\SYSTEMOI)(CI)(IO)F
BUILTIN\Administrators:F
BUILTIN\AdministratorsOI)(CI)(IO)F
BUILTIN\Users:R
BUILTIN\UsersOI)(CI)(IO)(special
access

GENERIC_READ

GENERIC_EXECUTE

BUILTIN\Power
Users:R
BUILTIN\Power
UsersOI)(CI)(IO)(special access

GENERIC_READ

GENERIC_EXECUTE

Everyone:R
EveryoneOI)(CI)(IO)(special
access

GENERIC_READ

GENERIC_EXECUTE

SYSTEM-3\cwleeOI)(CI)F

C:\Documents and Settings\cwlee.System-3\SendTo NT
AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:F
NT
AUTHORITY\SYSTEMOI)(CI)(IO)F
BUILTIN\Administrators:F
BUILTIN\AdministratorsOI)(CI)(IO)F
BUILTIN\Users:R
BUILTIN\UsersOI)(CI)(IO)(special
access

GENERIC_READ

GENERIC_EXECUTE

BUILTIN\Power
Users:R
BUILTIN\Power
UsersOI)(CI)(IO)(special access

GENERIC_READ

GENERIC_EXECUTE

Everyone:R
EveryoneOI)(CI)(IO)(special
access

GENERIC_READ

GENERIC_EXECUTE

SYSTEM-3\cwleeOI)(CI)F

C:\Documents and Settings\cwlee.System-3\Start Menu NT
AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:F
NT
AUTHORITY\SYSTEMOI)(CI)(IO)F
BUILTIN\Administrators:F
BUILTIN\AdministratorsOI)(CI)(IO)F
BUILTIN\Users:R
BUILTIN\UsersOI)(CI)(IO)(special
access

GENERIC_READ

GENERIC_EXECUTE

BUILTIN\Power
Users:R
BUILTIN\Power
UsersOI)(CI)(IO)(special access

GENERIC_READ

GENERIC_EXECUTE

Everyone:R
EveryoneOI)(CI)(IO)(special
access

GENERIC_READ

GENERIC_EXECUTE

SYSTEM-3\cwleeOI)(CI)F

C:\Documents and Settings\cwlee.System-3\Templates NT
AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:F
NT
AUTHORITY\SYSTEMOI)(CI)(IO)F
BUILTIN\Administrators:F
BUILTIN\AdministratorsOI)(CI)(IO)F
BUILTIN\Users:R
BUILTIN\UsersOI)(CI)(IO)(special
access

GENERIC_READ

GENERIC_EXECUTE

BUILTIN\Power
Users:R
BUILTIN\Power
UsersOI)(CI)(IO)(special access

GENERIC_READ

GENERIC_EXECUTE

Everyone:R
EveryoneOI)(CI)(IO)(special
access

GENERIC_READ

GENERIC_EXECUTE

SYSTEM-3\cwleeOI)(CI)F

C:\Documents and Settings\cwlee.System-3\Application
Data\Microsoft\CryptnetUrlCache NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:F

NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEMOI)(CI)(IO)F

BUILTIN\Administrators:F

BUILTIN\AdministratorsOI)(CI)(IO)F

BUILTIN\Users:R

BUILTIN\UsersOI)(CI)(IO)(special
access

GENERIC_READ

GENERIC_EXECUTE


BUILTIN\Power Users:R

BUILTIN\Power
UsersOI)(CI)(IO)(special access

GENERIC_READ

GENERIC_EXECUTE


Everyone:R

EveryoneOI)(CI)(IO)(special
access

GENERIC_READ

GENERIC_EXECUTE


SYSTEM-3\cwleeOI)(CI)F


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

I don't know if you also want to see what appeared on the
"black screen", but it was as follows, between lines of +++
symbols.

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

Please wait . . .
Processing "C:\Documents and
Settings\cwlee.System-3\Application Data"
Processing "C:\Documents and
Settings\cwlee.System-3\Cookies"
Processing "C:\Documents and
Settings\cwlee.System-3\Desktop"
Processing "C:\Documents and
Settings\cwlee.System-3\Favorites"
Processing "C:\Documents and Settings\cwlee.System-3\Local
Settings"
Processing "C:\Documents and
Settings\cwlee.System-3\NetHood"
Processing "C:\Documents and Settings\cwlee.System-3\Recent"
Processing "C:\Documents and Settings\cwlee.System-3\SendTo"
Processing "C:\Documents and Settings\cwlee.System-3\Start
Menu"
Processing "C:\Documents and
Settings\cwlee.System-3\Templates"

+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

I hope this helps you.

Thanks again.

=================================

 

[Pegasus [MVP]]

We're getting one step closer to our goal. Here is what your reply is
telling me:
- You have two relevant profile folders:
* "c:\Documents and Settings\cwlee"
* "c:\Documents and Settings\cwlee.System-3"
- "Users" (as opposed to "Administrators") have only read-access
to these folders.
- My previous instructions to modify these permissions appear
to have failed.

The next step consists of setting appropriate permissions once more,
this time with a batch file in order to avoid typographical errors.
Following the previously issued instructions, I would like you to
create the batch file c:\Lee2.bat. It should have the following lines:
@echo off
set prof=c:\Documents and Settings
set cryp=Application Data\Microsoft\CryptnetUrlCache
net user > c:\test.txt
cacls "%prof%\cwlee" /e /t /r Users 1>>c:\test.txt 2>>&1
cacls "%prof%\cwlee.System-3" /e /t /r Users 1>>c:\test.txt 2>>&1
cacls "%prof%\cwlee" /e /t /g CWLee:F 1>>c:\test.txt 2>>&1
cacls "%prof%\cwlee.System-3" /e /t /g CWLee:F 1>>c:\test.txt 2>>&1
cacls "%prof%\cwlee\%cryp%" >> c:\test.txt
cacls "%prof%\cwlee.System-3\%cryp%" >> c:\test.txt
notepad c:\test.txt

And here are the overall steps:
1. Reboot the machine.
2. Log on as Administrator.
3. Create c:\Lee2.bat
4. Run c:\Lee2.bat. It will show you the contents of c:\test.txt when
finished.
5. Paste some of the contents of c:\test.txt into your reply. Cut out the
repetitive stuff - I'm interested in the first few lines and the error
messages, if any.
6. Reboot the machine.
7. Log on as CWLee.
8. Click Start / Run
9. Type the three letters cmd
10. Click the OK button
11. Type this command and press Enter:
set user
12. Report the value of "Userprofile".

 

[CWLee]

Summary: I ran the new command, no error messages, and have
shown portions below, as you requested. Was unable to log
on as CWLee, with an error message (shown below) similar to
before.

First part: I ran the batch command, and the result was a
very long display - something like 300 pages. I have shown
below, between lines of ### symbols, the first 20+ lines,
20+ lines from near the middle, and the final 20+ lines.
Those three portions are separated by lines of ^^^ symbols.

###############################

User accounts for \\SYSTEM-3

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------
administrator cwlee Guest
The command completed successfully.

processed dir: c:\Documents and Settings\CWLEE
processed dir: c:\Documents and Settings\CWLEE\Application
Data
processed dir: c:\Documents and Settings\CWLEE\Cookies
processed dir: c:\Documents and Settings\CWLEE\Desktop
processed dir: c:\Documents and Settings\CWLEE\Favorites
processed dir: c:\Documents and Settings\CWLEE\Local
Settings
processed dir: c:\Documents and Settings\CWLEE\My Documents
processed dir: c:\Documents and Settings\CWLEE\NetHood
processed file: c:\Documents and Settings\CWLEE\normal.doc
processed file: c:\Documents and Settings\CWLEE\NTUSER.DAT
processed file: c:\Documents and
Settings\CWLEE\ntuser.dat.LOG
processed file: c:\Documents and Settings\CWLEE\ntuser.ini
processed file: c:\Documents and Settings\CWLEE\ntuser.pol
processed dir: c:\Documents and Settings\CWLEE\PrintHood
processed dir: c:\Documents and Settings\CWLEE\Recent
processed dir: c:\Documents and Settings\CWLEE\SendTo
processed dir: c:\Documents and Settings\CWLEE\Start Menu
processed dir: c:\Documents and Settings\CWLEE\Templates
processed dir: c:\Documents and Settings\CWLEE\Application
Data\ACD Systems
processed dir: c:\Documents and Settings\CWLEE\Application
Data\Active Disk
processed dir: c:\Documents and Settings\CWLEE\Application
Data\Adobe
processed file: c:\Documents and Settings\CWLEE\Application
Data\AdobeDLM.log

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

processed file: c:\Documents and
Settings\cwlee.System-3\Favorites\Links\T-Travel\Arrangements\Transportation\Z-Other\Greyhound
Lines, Inc..url
processed file: c:\Documents and
Settings\cwlee.System-3\Favorites\Links\T-Travel\Arrangements\Transportation\Z-Other\Olympic
Peninsula - Travel - Ferries.url
processed file: c:\Documents and
Settings\cwlee.System-3\Favorites\Links\T-Travel\Arrangements\Transportation\Z-Other\Provincial
Ferry Schedule.url
processed file: c:\Documents and
Settings\cwlee.System-3\Favorites\Links\T-Travel\Arrangements\Transportation\Z-Other\TripPlanner
- Your Trip.url
processed file: c:\Documents and
Settings\cwlee.System-3\Favorites\Links\T-Travel\Arrangements\Transportation\Z-Other\Welcome
Aboard BC Ferries.url
processed file: c:\Documents and
Settings\cwlee.System-3\Favorites\Links\T-Travel\Arrangements\Z-Other\Costa
Rica Tour.url
processed file: c:\Documents and
Settings\cwlee.System-3\Favorites\Links\T-Travel\Arrangements\Z-Other\Lindblad
Expeditions Contact Us.url
processed file: c:\Documents and
Settings\cwlee.System-3\Favorites\Links\T-Travel\Arrangements\Z-Other\Lindblad
Expeditions Expedition Reports Page.url
processed file: c:\Documents and
Settings\cwlee.System-3\Favorites\Links\T-Travel\Arrangements\Z-Other\The
Alaska-BC Whale Foundation.url
processed file: c:\Documents and
Settings\cwlee.System-3\Favorites\Links\T-Travel\Places\Embassy
of Papua New Guinea in the Americas.url

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

processed file: c:\Documents and
Settings\cwlee.System-3\Start
Menu\Programs\NetObjects\NetObjects Fusion 5.0 Readme.lnk
processed file: c:\Documents and
Settings\cwlee.System-3\Start
Menu\Programs\NetObjects\NetObjects Fusion 5.0.lnk
processed file: c:\Documents and
Settings\cwlee.System-3\Templates\amipro.sam
processed file: c:\Documents and
Settings\cwlee.System-3\Templates\lotus.wk4
processed file: c:\Documents and
Settings\cwlee.System-3\Templates\powerpnt.ppt
processed file: c:\Documents and
Settings\cwlee.System-3\Templates\presenta.shw
processed file: c:\Documents and
Settings\cwlee.System-3\Templates\quattro.wb2
processed file: c:\Documents and
Settings\cwlee.System-3\Templates\sndrec.wav
c:\Documents and Settings\cwlee\Application
Data\Microsoft\CryptnetUrlCache NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:F

BUILTIN\Administrators:F

SYSTEM-3\cwleeOI)(CI)F

c:\Documents and Settings\cwlee.System-3\Application
Data\Microsoft\CryptnetUrlCache NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEM:F

NT AUTHORITY\SYSTEMOI)(CI)(IO)F

BUILTIN\Administrators:F

BUILTIN\AdministratorsOI)(CI)(IO)F

BUILTIN\Power Users:R

###############################

When I restarted the computer, and tried to log on as CWLee,
I received the following 2 error messages:

#1:
"Windows cannot copy file C:\Documents and Settings\Default
User\Application Data\Microsoft\CryptnetUrlCache to location
C:\Documents and Settings\cwlee.SYSTEM-3.000\Application
Data\Microsoft\CryptnetUrlCache\
Contact your network administrator.

DETAIL - Access is denied.

#2:
Windows cannot log you on because the profile cannot be
loaded. Contact your network administrator.

DETAIL - Access is denied.

OK, back to you, with my continuing thanks.

==========================

 

[Pegasus [MVP]]

It appears that we're running round in circles, without making any real
progress. This is probably because I'm not aware of some peculiarity on your
machine. I see these options for you:
a) You live with the problem.
b) You reload Windows, allowing the disk to be formatted in the process.
c) You start a new thread in an attempt to attract some other respondent's
attention who may be able to resolve your problem.
c) You give me direct access to your machine so that I can see things with
my own eyes.

Option d) is conditional to the machine having access to the Internet. If
you're interested in discussing this option further, drop a line to
(e-mail address removed).

Sorry for not being able to resolve this issue in the normal way.

 

[CWLee]

"It appears that we're running round in circles, without
making any real progress. This is probably because I'm not
aware of some peculiarity on your machine."

Yes, it does seem that way - I'm very frustrated too.
Before I address the options you presented, I have a couple
of comments/questions which may help me, or you, or others
approach this situation.

A. From the 300+ pages of stuff I read (only a small part
of which was sent to you, at your request), it appears that
the information about my preferences, icons, styles,
settings, etc. (I'll use the word "tastes" to refer to that
collection) are still stored on the computer. Right?

B. Assuming you agree with the above, the problem then
seems to be getting my user account (cwlee) to
access/recognize/incorporate those "tastes". Right?

C. Can you think of a way to "transfer" those "tastes"
either to the Administrator account, or to a newly created
user account with a new name?

D. Are there any sharing options/permissions anywhere which
the Administrator account has access to which would allow
access to those "tastes"?

Any other brief exposition of the situation that you can
provide to me? I'm thinking of a description that I might
use with someone much more technically competent than I am -
someone who might try a fresh approach. Also if you could
describe in a general way what approaches you tried, and
why/how they failed, it might help another person solve the
mystery.

You wrote:

"I see these options for you:
a) You live with the problem.
b) You reload Windows, allowing the disk to
be formatted in the process.
c) You start a new thread in an attempt to attract
some other respondent's attention who may
be able to resolve your problem.
d) You give me direct access to your machine
so that I can see things with my own eyes."

First, in comparing options a) and b), I assume that with b)
I would lose all the "tastes"-related information, all the
other software that I've added over the years, and all the
updates to the OS and other software incorporated over the
years. I would be, basically, starting out with a clean
slate. Between those two options, it seems best to me to go
with a), in case someday a way is found to reestablish my
user account with all of its "tastes".

With respect to option c), I don't think I'll find someone
else of your calibre and standing in a newsgroup who would
want to take on this problem. The fact that there have been
no other suggestions or contributions posted in the
newsgroup reinforces that belief with me.

With respect to option d), you wrote: "Option d) is
conditional to the machine having access to the Internet. If
you're interested in discussing this option further, drop a
line to (e-mail address removed)."

I shall email you, at that address, to talk about this some
more.

Lastly, you wrote: "Sorry for not being able to resolve
this issue in the normal way." We are both sorry that the
problem is still there; nevertheless I believe you went well
above and beyond the call of duty to assist me. I'm very
thankful for your efforts.

Best regards.

===========================

 

[CWLee]

Pegasus,

Possible new clues for you. Using Windows Explorer, under
the C drive, Documents and Settings, there are these five
folders:

Administrator
All Users
CWLEE
cwlee.System-3
Default User

Most, but not all, of the next level folders under CWLEE and
cwlee.System-3 seem to be the same or very similar.

Hoping this brings you an Eureka! moment.

 

[Buffalo]

Pegasus,

Possible new clues for you. Using Windows Explorer, under
the C drive, Documents and Settings, there are these five
folders:

Administrator
All Users
CWLEE
cwlee.System-3
Default User

Most, but not all, of the next level folders under CWLEE and
cwlee.System-3 seem to be the same or very similar.

Hoping this brings you an Eureka! moment.

I hope so too.
Buffalo

 

[Pegasus [MVP]]

*** See below.

A. From the 300+ pages of stuff I read (only a small part of which was
sent to you, at your request), it appears that the information about my
preferences, icons, styles, settings, etc. (I'll use the word "tastes" to
refer to that collection) are still stored on the computer. Right? *** Yes.

B. Assuming you agree with the above, the problem then seems to be
getting my user account (cwlee) to access/recognize/incorporate those
"tastes". Right? *** Yes.

C. Can you think of a way to "transfer" those "tastes" either to the
Administrator account, or to a newly created user account with a new name?

*** This involves editing the registry, which I'm reluctant
*** to do in view of your limited PC experience.

D. Are there any sharing options/permissions anywhere which the
Administrator account has access to which would allow access to those
"tastes"? *** No.

Any other brief exposition of the situation that you can provide to me?
I'm thinking of a description that I might use with someone much more
technically competent than I am - someone who might try a fresh approach.
Also if you could describe in a general way what approaches you tried, and
why/how they failed, it might help another person solve the mystery.

*** The only requirement is to set appropriate permissions
*** for the CWLee profile folder. In the hands of an experienced
*** person this takes less than two minutes.

You wrote:

"I see these options for you:
a) You live with the problem.
b) You reload Windows, allowing the disk to
be formatted in the process.
c) You start a new thread in an attempt to attract
some other respondent's attention who may
be able to resolve your problem.
d) You give me direct access to your machine
so that I can see things with my own eyes."

First, in comparing options a) and b), I assume that with b) I would lose
all the "tastes"-related information, all the other software that I've
added over the years, and all the updates to the OS and other software
incorporated over the years. I would be, basically, starting out with a
clean slate. Between those two options, it seems best to me to go with
a), in case someday a way is found to reestablish my user account with all
of its "tastes". *** Correct.

With respect to option c), I don't think I'll find someone else of your
calibre and standing in a newsgroup who would want to take on this
problem. The fact that there have been no other suggestions or
contributions posted in the newsgroup reinforces that belief with me.

*** There are probably two reasons for this:
*** a) These days there is little traffic in Win2000 groups.
*** b) Other potential repondents, who no doubt follow this
*** thread, work along similar lines and have no desire
*** to duplicate my work. When prompted they might
*** step forward.

 

[Pegasus [MVP]]

Pegasus,

Possible new clues for you. Using Windows Explorer, under the C drive,
Documents and Settings, there are these five folders:

Administrator
All Users
CWLEE
cwlee.System-3
Default User

Most, but not all, of the next level folders under CWLEE and
cwlee.System-3 seem to be the same or very similar.

Hoping this brings you an Eureka! moment.

Not really. What you observe is the result of the command
xcopy /s /h /c /d "c:\Documents and Settings\CWLee\*.*" . . .
which you ran at my request many posts ago.

Here are my comments in response to the issues you raised in
the note you sent directly to me:

1. Without access to my previous user account, I will
have to set up, for the first time, the Administrator account
with internet access.

*** Access to the Internet is independent of the account.
*** You only need to duplicate most of the IP address
*** settings that you already have on your other PC.

2. Without access to my previous user account, I will
have to set up, again for the first time, the Administrator
account with OE to send/receive email. *** EMail is not required.

3. My internet connection is via dial-up, and it may be
that what you have in mind requires a faster speed.

*** Having a dial-up connection makes for a painfully
*** slow connection but it's not a show-stopper.

4. I will be leaving the USA in about x days. <snip>
I would have no way of reestablishing a phone connection to the internet
once it was broken after I leave. *** Point taken.

All things considered, my guess is we probably can't make
much, if any, progress on this until I return in August.

Your thoughts please.

*** You call the shots. If you have concerns about the
*** process then I recommend you postpone it until
*** until you're not under pressure and/or you ask a
*** computer-savvy friend to assist you. Keep in mind
*** that to resolve this problem would take him less
*** than two minutes.

 

[CWLee]

Pegasus,

Thanks again for your continuing assistance.

You wrote, in your most recent two posts, that:

"The only requirement is to set appropriate permissions for
the CWLee profile folder. In the hands of an experienced
person this takes less than two minutes."

(and)

"you ask a computer-savvy friend to assist you. Keep in mind
that to resolve this problem would take him less than two
minutes."

Do I understand that what you mention above involves
"editing the registry" which you are "reluctant to do in
view of your limited PC experience."?

If you can recommend a good book on the subject, perhaps
I'll find that book and take it with me on my upcoming trip.
Maybe I can learn whatever it takes to use this two minute
approach to fixing the problem.

Thanks again.

=============================

 

[Pegasus [MVP]]

*** See below.

Pegasus,

Thanks again for your continuing assistance.

You wrote, in your most recent two posts, that:

"The only requirement is to set appropriate permissions for the CWLee
profile folder. In the hands of an experienced person this takes less than
two minutes."

(and)

"you ask a computer-savvy friend to assist you. Keep in mind that to
resolve this problem would take him less than two minutes."

Do I understand that what you mention above involves "editing the
registry" which you are "reluctant to do in view of your limited PC
experience."?

*** No, permissions are set at a file/folder level, not in the registry.

If you can recommend a good book on the subject, perhaps I'll find that
book and take it with me on my upcoming trip. Maybe I can learn whatever
it takes to use this two minute approach to fixing the problem.

*** Terribly sorry but I can't. Most of what I know I learnt
*** by various means other than books:
*** - Training courses
*** - From colleagues.
*** - "On the job" training.
*** I even wonder if it is worth your while trying to acquire
*** these skills. They are a system administrator's skill and
*** a home user would need them very rarely - which means
*** that he would forget them quickly due to lack of practice.
*** Just because I could fix your problem in two minutes does
*** not mean that you could learn these skills in two minutes . . .
***
*** If you still wish to go ahead, start a new thread in this
*** newsgroup and crosspost it to microsoft.public.windowsxp.general.
*** You could choose a subject such as "Basics of NTFS permissions
*** and how to set them".

Thanks again.

*** You're welcome.

 

[CWLee]

" ... permissions are set at a file/folder level, not in the
registry."

Are those what you later refer to in your phrase "Basics of
NTFS permissions ... "?

Are those permissions all set in various screens that are
available to me, if I can find them, deep under headings
like tools, properties, options, etc? If so, after logging
on as Administrator, what programs would I open to start
searching for those screens?

You suggest crossposting the proposed new thread to
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general and I wonder if readers
there would question why I'm posting a Windows-2000
question, since the title of the newsgroup implies it is for
Windows-XP. While I can certainly handle nasty comments
directed to me, I'd rather not offend people by violating
the norms.

While I'll be able to access my email while traveling, I
have not yet found a way to check newsgroups from public
computers, so I'll wait until I return to post the new
thread. In the meantime I'll do a search on the topic of
"Setting NTFS permissions".

Thanks again.

==========================

 

[Pegasus [MVP]]

" ... permissions are set at a file/folder level, not in the registry."

Are those what you later refer to in your phrase "Basics of NTFS
permissions ... "? *** Yes.

Are those permissions all set in various screens that are available to me,
if I can find them, deep under headings like tools, properties, options,
etc? If so, after logging on as Administrator, what programs would I open
to start searching for those screens?

*** You can set them at a Command Prompt with
*** cacls.exe or in a GUI environment while in Windows
*** Explorer under the "Properties" of each folder.

You suggest crossposting the proposed new thread to
microsoft.public.windowsxp.general and I wonder if readers there would
question why I'm posting a Windows-2000 question, since the title of the
newsgroup implies it is for Windows-XP. While I can certainly handle
nasty comments directed to me, I'd rather not offend people by violating
the norms.

*** Good point. Since NTFS issues are identical in the two
*** OSs, you can preempt such responses by saying "I'm
*** crossposting my query in a WinXP newsgroup in the
*** hope of attracting more replies".

While I'll be able to access my email while traveling, I have not yet
found a way to check newsgroups from public computers, so I'll wait until
I return to post the new thread. In the meantime I'll do a search on the
topic of "Setting NTFS permissions".

Thanks again.

*** Good luck!