USB works only in SAFE Mode

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Mark said:
At some stage my USB system has decided to work correctly BUT only in safe
mode.

I found by accedent that if I put large files onto any of my USB devices
when I got to work that they were full of crc errors etc or would not open
correctly. For that matter good files put on at work would end up with the
problem if i transfered them on to my HD via USB connections.

A quick test has been to move a known movie file around and I found that if
I run my home system in SAFE mode files being put or retrieved using USB
devices no longer get corrupted.

HELP, I can't find out what is causing the problem...
Click to expand...

When finished, fix your clock. You're one day ahead of the
rest of the world.
 
Been there done that :-)

Short run or direct connection into the USB ports. Device manager looks
fine and have reinstalled etc etc etc a number of times. Have also re
applied SP2.

Still no goo in normal mode, however when I boot to safe mode every thing
looks the same but now the files do not get corrupted when I move them about
via the USB ports.

It happens on ALL the ports front and rear so I am sure that it has to be a
driver some where and not just a faulty hub.

Date is now fixed.... Sorry issue with Time zones and a reinstall.
 
USB 2 (High Speed) is capable of only around 25+ Megabytes/Sec
transfer rate. You should ensure that your devices are not set to use
Write behind caching ( Policy for Speed ).

Check your System Event log for errors:
Click Start, Run ( type ) EventVwr.Msc [Enter]

Also, USB sub-systems depend on the Chipset driver package.
If not updated recently, would be worth installing.

I'd also add the System Environment Variable,
DevMgr_Show_NonPresent_Devices
& set it's value = 1
Then open Device Manager, Click View - tic/check "Show Hidden
Devices". Make sure you have no "Other" category and then remove
all Phantom entries ( Shown grayed Out ) in the following:
1.) USB
2.) Storage Volumes
3.) Disk Drives
 
R. McCarty said:
USB 2 (High Speed) is capable of only around 25+ Megabytes/Sec
transfer rate. You should ensure that your devices are not set to use
Write behind caching ( Policy for Speed ).
Done

Check your System Event log for errors:
Click Start, Run ( type ) EventVwr.Msc [Enter]

Clean
Also, USB sub-systems depend on the Chipset driver package.
If not updated recently, would be worth installing.

Done

I'd also add the System Environment Variable,
DevMgr_Show_NonPresent_Devices
& set it's value = 1
Then open Device Manager, Click View - tic/check "Show Hidden
Devices". Make sure you have no "Other" category and then remove
all Phantom entries ( Shown grayed Out ) in the following:
1.) USB
2.) Storage Volumes
3.) Disk Drives
Click to expand...
Done.. No change... In safe mode it all work OK, but in normal mode the
errors on ant files being moved across the USB system is unusable.. Where
to from here ?
 
Check two parameters of the USB hardware:
1.) Controller - Advanced (TAB) Bandwidth Used
2.) HUB - Power (TAB) Check total mA used (500 mA Max)

Mark said:
R. McCarty said:
USB 2 (High Speed) is capable of only around 25+ Megabytes/Sec
transfer rate. You should ensure that your devices are not set to use
Write behind caching ( Policy for Speed ).
Done

Check your System Event log for errors:
Click Start, Run ( type ) EventVwr.Msc [Enter]

Clean
Also, USB sub-systems depend on the Chipset driver package.
If not updated recently, would be worth installing.

Done

I'd also add the System Environment Variable,
DevMgr_Show_NonPresent_Devices
& set it's value = 1
Then open Device Manager, Click View - tic/check "Show Hidden
Devices". Make sure you have no "Other" category and then remove
all Phantom entries ( Shown grayed Out ) in the following:
1.) USB
2.) Storage Volumes
3.) Disk Drives
Click to expand...
Done.. No change... In safe mode it all work OK, but in normal mode the
errors on ant files being moved across the USB system is unusable.. Where
to from here ?
Click to expand...
 
Bandwith is 10% and 20% can not find Power tab ? The USB's are all
standard built into the MOB. This is not an external hub.

It all works in SAFE mode but not Normal mode, what else can I look for ?

Frustrated :-(

R. McCarty said:
Check two parameters of the USB hardware:
1.) Controller - Advanced (TAB) Bandwidth Used
2.) HUB - Power (TAB) Check total mA used (500 mA Max)

Mark said:
R. McCarty said:
USB 2 (High Speed) is capable of only around 25+ Megabytes/Sec
transfer rate. You should ensure that your devices are not set to use
Write behind caching ( Policy for Speed ).
Done

Check your System Event log for errors:
Click Start, Run ( type ) EventVwr.Msc [Enter]

Clean
Also, USB sub-systems depend on the Chipset driver package.
If not updated recently, would be worth installing.

Done

I'd also add the System Environment Variable,
DevMgr_Show_NonPresent_Devices
& set it's value = 1
Then open Device Manager, Click View - tic/check "Show Hidden
Devices". Make sure you have no "Other" category and then remove
all Phantom entries ( Shown grayed Out ) in the following:
1.) USB
2.) Storage Volumes
3.) Disk Drives
Click to expand...
Done.. No change... In safe mode it all work OK, but in normal mode the
errors on ant files being moved across the USB system is unusable..
Where to from here ?
Been there done that :-)

Short run or direct connection into the USB ports. Device manager
looks fine and have reinstalled etc etc etc a number of times. Have
also re applied SP2.

Still no goo in normal mode, however when I boot to safe mode every
thing looks the same but now the files do not get corrupted when I move
them about via the USB ports.

It happens on ALL the ports front and rear so I am sure that it has to
be a driver some where and not just a faulty hub.

Date is now fixed.... Sorry issue with Time zones and a reinstall.
Hi,

Try the steps here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/310575

--
Best of Luck,

Rick Rogers, aka "Nutcase" - Microsoft MVP

Windows help - www.rickrogers.org

At some stage my USB system has decided to work correctly BUT only in
safe mode.

I found by accedent that if I put large files onto any of my USB
devices when I got to work that they were full of crc errors etc or
would not open correctly. For that matter good files put on at work
would end up with the problem if i transfered them on to my HD via
USB connections.

A quick test has been to move a known movie file around and I found
that if I run my home system in SAFE mode files being put or
retrieved using USB devices no longer get corrupted.

HELP, I can't find out what is causing the problem...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
 
Are you in a time machine or something? Your OP was from the 27th, and now
your posting from the 26th.
Welcome to the blocked sender list.
 
May be he did that because he wants his message at top...

--
Ayush [ Be ''?'' Happy ]
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: Are you in a time machine or something? Your OP was from the 27th, and now
: your posting from the 26th.
: Welcome to the blocked sender list.
:
: : > At some stage my USB system has decided to work correctly BUT only in safe
: > mode.
: >
: > I found by accedent that if I put large files onto any of my USB devices
: > when I got to work that they were full of crc errors etc or would not open
: > correctly. For that matter good files put on at work would end up with
: > the problem if i transfered them on to my HD via USB connections.
: >
: > A quick test has been to move a known movie file around and I found that
: > if I run my home system in SAFE mode files being put or retrieved using
: > USB devices no longer get corrupted.
: >
: > HELP, I can't find out what is causing the problem...
: >
: >
: >
:
:
 
May be he did that because he wants his message at top...

--
Ayush [ Be ''?'' Happy ]
Click to expand...

For any query, search > www.Google.com
Want to know about a term > http://en.wikipedia.org

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: Are you in a time machine or something? Your OP was from the 27th, and now
: your posting from the 26th.
: Welcome to the blocked sender list.
:
: : > At some stage my USB system has decided to work correctly BUT only in safe
: > mode.
: >
: > I found by accedent that if I put large files onto any of my USB devices
: > when I got to work that they were full of crc errors etc or would not open
: > correctly. For that matter good files put on at work would end up with
: > the problem if i transfered them on to my HD via USB connections.
: >
: > A quick test has been to move a known movie file around and I found that
: > if I run my home system in SAFE mode files being put or retrieved using
: > USB devices no longer get corrupted.
: >
: > HELP, I can't find out what is causing the problem...
: >
: >
: >
:
:
 
Very likely, that's why he was blocked.

Ayush said:
May be he did that because he wants his message at top...

--
Ayush [ Be ''?'' Happy ]
Click to expand...

For any query, search > www.Google.com
Want to know about a term > http://en.wikipedia.org

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: Are you in a time machine or something? Your OP was from the 27th, and
now
: your posting from the 26th.
: Welcome to the blocked sender list.
:
: : > At some stage my USB system has decided to work correctly BUT only in
safe
: > mode.
: >
: > I found by accedent that if I put large files onto any of my USB
devices
: > when I got to work that they were full of crc errors etc or would not
open
: > correctly. For that matter good files put on at work would end up
with
: > the problem if i transfered them on to my HD via USB connections.
: >
: > A quick test has been to move a known movie file around and I found
that
: > if I run my home system in SAFE mode files being put or retrieved
using
: > USB devices no longer get corrupted.
: >
: > HELP, I can't find out what is causing the problem...
: >
: >
: >
:
:
Click to expand...
 
It all works in SAFE mode but not Normal mode, what else can I
look for ?
Click to expand...

Since it works in safe mode and not normal mode, consider that there
may be a program running on your machine that somehow interferes with
the normal operation. Try running the "msconfig" application:
Start --> Run --> msconfig
Begin by going to the "startup" tab and disabling everything. Reboot
and if the USB is OK, then enable a few at a time (with a reboot
inbetween) until you find the problem application.

Good Luck,
John
 
Dave said:
Very likely, that's why he was blocked.

Ayush said:
May be he did that because he wants his message at top...

--
Ayush [ Be ''?'' Happy ]
Click to expand...
For any query, search > www.Google.com
Want to know about a term > http://en.wikipedia.org

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: Are you in a time machine or something? Your OP was from the 27th, and
now
: your posting from the 26th.
: Welcome to the blocked sender list.
:
: : > At some stage my USB system has decided to work correctly BUT only in
safe
: > mode.
: >
: > I found by accedent that if I put large files onto any of my USB
devices
: > when I got to work that they were full of crc errors etc or would not
open
: > correctly. For that matter good files put on at work would end up
with
: > the problem if i transfered them on to my HD via USB connections.
: >
: > A quick test has been to move a known movie file around and I found
that
: > if I run my home system in SAFE mode files being put or retrieved
using
: > USB devices no longer get corrupted.
: >
: > HELP, I can't find out what is causing the problem...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...

Or maybe he noticed his error and corrected it.
 
John Wunderlich said:
Since it works in safe mode and not normal mode, consider that there
may be a program running on your machine that somehow interferes with
the normal operation. Try running the "msconfig" application:
Start --> Run --> msconfig
Begin by going to the "startup" tab and disabling everything. Reboot
and if the USB is OK, then enable a few at a time (with a reboot
inbetween) until you find the problem application.

Good Luck,
John
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have you reapplied your motherboard drivers (updated) ?
 
I've casting an eye down through this thread, and a couple of things
occurred to me.

Any hardware additions or changes just prior to your problem ?
.....Pc type ? ...traditional type system box ? ...IDE / RAID ???
....80 core ribbons vs data corruption on 40 core when using ATA66mhz and
higher ?

....you mentioned "front and rear" USB ports, ...e.g. front ones connected to
a pin header on motherboard that could be shared with a USB socket at case
rear / near parallel port ?

If installed, have you tried removing motherboard chipset IDE Bus Master
drivers ? ...and using just the IDE drivers that XP finds in its' driver
database ?

regards, Richard
 
And Jo Said;

Joe said:
Dave said:
Very likely, that's why he was blocked.

Ayush said:
May be he did that because he wants his message at top...

--
Ayush [ Be ''?'' Happy ]
For any query, search > www.Google.com
Want to know about a term > http://en.wikipedia.org

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: Are you in a time machine or something? Your OP was from the 27th, and
now
: your posting from the 26th.
: Welcome to the blocked sender list.
:
: : > At some stage my USB system has decided to work correctly BUT only
in safe
: > mode.
: >
: > I found by accedent that if I put large files onto any of my USB
devices
: > when I got to work that they were full of crc errors etc or would
not open
: > correctly. For that matter good files put on at work would end up
with
: > the problem if i transfered them on to my HD via USB connections.
: >
: > A quick test has been to move a known movie file around and I found
that
: > if I run my home system in SAFE mode files being put or retrieved
using
: > USB devices no longer get corrupted.
: >
: > HELP, I can't find out what is causing the problem...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...

Or maybe he noticed his error and corrected it.
Click to expand...

Thanks... With all the re patching and updates including the BIOS, I guess
I did not notice, and then corrected as soon as I was made aware.

Not intentional and still have problems.

Mark
 
1: Giga-byte MOB K8NS Ultra 939
2: Updated drivers applied
3: msconfig run and disabled everything and re boot

STILL Corrupting

4: Re boot in safe mode with every thing disabled and it works!!!
5: So in safe mode regardless of services etc it works.

Fired up an old working VM (clean XP SP1) and same problem ???

Now I am confused....

It this a hardware problem ie. Faulty MOB ?
 
Mark,

Curious....what USB type is being used at home compared to work (i.e. USB
1.0, 1.1, 2.0) and what USB type periphial devices and cables are being
used?

Nospam
 
At some stage my USB system has decided to work correctly BUT only in safe
mode.

I found by accedent that if I put large files onto any of my USB devices
when I got to work that they were full of crc errors etc or would not open
correctly. For that matter good files put on at work would end up with the
problem if i transfered them on to my HD via USB connections.

A quick test has been to move a known movie file around and I found that if
I run my home system in SAFE mode files being put or retrieved using USB
devices no longer get corrupted.

HELP, I can't find out what is causing the problem...
 
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