Upgrading to Vista

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I do a similar thing, except I just make an image of the drive or
partition. That way not only can I retrieve any forgotten files, I can
also just go back if I want.
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Thanks to Bob Knowlden who put everything together. I am going to get
Vista upgrade through charity software company £11.00 + VAT
so not too bad. Using notron Ghost I can make an image of XP and it
would only take 5 minutes to put it back + formatting time if needed.
Good old Fdisk bootable floppy. If I don't like it it has only cost me
£12.93UK The reason for the fresh install is if you install XP over 98
and are given the option of just upgrade parts against a complete
install and loosing all your data (but you would have backed it up
wouldn't you) , the upgrade does not work as well.
A BBC IT program Click exposed microsofts software programming
techniques. If it's not broke don't fix it. If parts of Win98 DLLS
work just make a wrapper around them to make them compatable. The BBC
said that this was just like putting atape on top of older tape etc.

But historacaly Windows XP maybe built on good solid old NT
technology, but who wrote NT, was it not IBM OS2 stolen by Microsoft
at gun point.


Desmond.
 
I do a similar thing, except I just make an image of the drive or
partition. That way not only can I retrieve any forgotten files, I can
also just go back if I want.
Click to expand...

One thing I forgot to mention but you would have to be 40 plus to know
this. MSDOS also was not writen by microsoft. That was an outside
company. Anyone remember there name? That is why the earth shifted in
1995 when Microsoft came out with Win95. Statments like
"Microsoft have never written an operating system"

Desmond.
 
Desmond said:
But historacaly Windows XP maybe built on good solid old NT
technology, but who wrote NT, was it not IBM OS2 stolen by Microsoft
at gun point.
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I thought the programmer who was at the head of the NT team was also the
person responsible for VMS?
 
Desmond said:
One thing I forgot to mention but you would have to be 40 plus to know
this. MSDOS also was not writen by microsoft. That was an outside
company. Anyone remember there name?
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Seattle Computer Products and the product was QDOS.

Hey, and I'm only 37.... does that make me an uber-geek? :)
 
Funny stuff.




David Cutler worked on both projects.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Cutler_(software_engineer)#VMS
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Microsoft have always played hardball with other companies. This is
not something that microsoft invented 5 years ago. IBM was competing
with them and they wanted to put a stop to it. As microsoft had other
software like Word excel. It was put to IBM to keep off. You do stick
to hardware and leave the software to us or you will have to write
word an excel as well. They forced IBM to back down and hand over all
the data. seing that it was better then anything they had, they
repackaged it as NT.
If David Cutler worked on both projects. That means he used to work
fot IBM. If went to work for Microsoft he could not have taken the
software with him. It belonged to IBM.
Why did IBM scrap OS2 if they had not been forced to do so.

A+ to class_A for Seattle Computer Products This also backs up what I
said
Tim Paterson (Seattle Computer Products) wrote the 86-DOS operating
system, also known as QDOS
Microsoft, seeking an operating system for the IBM PC, bought the
rights to market the system
OS/2 is a computer operating system, initially created by Microsoft
and IBM,
then later developed by IBM exclusively.

Microsoft didn't want IBM treading on there toes.
 
Desmond said:
Thanks to Bob Knowlden who put everything together. I am going to get
Vista upgrade through charity software company
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It's not an upgrade, and that's not charity.
 
In alt.comp.hardware.pc-homebuilt Desmond said:
One thing I forgot to mention but you would have to be 40 plus to know
this. MSDOS also was not writen by microsoft. That was an outside
company. Anyone remember there name? That is why the earth shifted in
1995 when Microsoft came out with Win95. Statments like
"Microsoft have never written an operating system"
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Seattle DOS ... Which was pretty much a rip-off of CP/M from Digital.
 
microsoft bought qdos, quick and dirty operating system, for $50,000.
micosoft then worked it into ms-dos. IBM wanted to buy it,
Gates wouldn't sell it to IBM,
but did cut a licensing deal with ibm. The rest
is history, as they say.

(qdos was re-worked cp/m)

being old does have some advantages, ha ha,

mike
 
Michael said:
That's similar to my setup and I too just use XP for everything. I didn't
have a problem with drivers though. Vista is pretty but it does suck.
Except for the Mahjongg game. ;)
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Maybe I'll learn something today. How do I reformat the hard drive when
in Vista? Everything I tried was blocked. No, I can't remember the
details at the moment, but that was the first thing that I tried
(reformatting).

Norton's Partition Magic does not run on Vista. Tried that. Tried using
a DOS boot disk, wouldn't let me reformat, or delete the old setup.

How? Specifically? TIA


Ed Cregger
 
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Maybe I'll learn something today. How do I reformat the hard drive when
in Vista? Everything I tried was blocked. No, I can't remember the
details at the moment, but that was the first thing that I tried
(reformatting).

Norton's Partition Magic does not run on Vista. Tried that. Tried using
a DOS boot disk, wouldn't let me reformat, or delete the old setup.

How? Specifically? TIA


Ed Cregger
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This will do it.

http://gparted.sourceforge.net/index.php

Bill
 
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Maybe I'll learn something today. How do I reformat the hard drive when
in Vista? Everything I tried was blocked. No, I can't remember the
details at the moment, but that was the first thing that I tried
(reformatting).

Norton's Partition Magic does not run on Vista. Tried that. Tried using
a DOS boot disk, wouldn't let me reformat, or delete the old setup.

How? Specifically? TIA
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Basically, it seems you are forgetting one important step, if
reformatting will not work, and that is to DELETE the partition
completely and start again.

Normally, when you install XP from disc, it asks you whether you want to
delete whatever partitions are already created. Also, when using the
DOS boot disk, it should hopefully have had FDISK on there. If so, then
you would have to remove the 'NON DOS PARTITION' first.

Once the partition has been removed you can set about re-creating a new
one from whichever O/S install you choose.
 
Peter said:
Basically, it seems you are forgetting one important step, if
reformatting will not work, and that is to DELETE the partition
completely and start again.

Normally, when you install XP from disc, it asks you whether you want to
delete whatever partitions are already created. Also, when using the
DOS boot disk, it should hopefully have had FDISK on there. If so, then
you would have to remove the 'NON DOS PARTITION' first.

Once the partition has been removed you can set about re-creating a new
one from whichever O/S install you choose.
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Fdisk. I knew I forgot something. Getting old, uh, damn, I forget what I
was going to say. <G>

Thanks.


Ed Cregger
 
Peter said:
Basically, it seems you are forgetting one important step, if
reformatting will not work, and that is to DELETE the partition
completely and start again.

Normally, when you install XP from disc, it asks you whether you want to
delete whatever partitions are already created. Also, when using the
DOS boot disk, it should hopefully have had FDISK on there. If so, then
you would have to remove the 'NON DOS PARTITION' first.

Once the partition has been removed you can set about re-creating a new
one from whichever O/S install you choose.
Click to expand...

___________


Fdisk. I knew I forgot something. Getting old, uh, damn, I forget what I
was going to say. <G>

I tried most of the variations that I could think of at the time, but I
may not have tried that one. Thanks.


Ed Cregger
 
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