Upgrade from XP OEM to Windows 7

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Ignore that pig or bear. He knows nothing about computers. The official
line is:

"Running earlier versions? If you have Windows XP or Windows 2000, you can
purchase Windows 7 Upgrade versions. But you must back up your files, clean
install, and reinstall your applications." you were correct to say: "must be
formated and Windows re-installed,"

You have better knowledge than that animal called Bear!

<http://store.microsoft.com/microsoft/Windows-Windows-7/category/102?WT.mc_id=msccomhpfeature_win7>
 
:

I think you will merely be
wasting your money, best to spend the extra and get a full retail version
and get the same end-result with the added benefit of not needing the prior
OS, IMO.
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Another non-sensical reply. People have kept CDs and old floppies every
since computers were first invented so there is no problem in "needing prior
OS". What is the point of spending more than necessary.

These pigs should be banned from these sites giving stupid advise. IMO They
seem to be drunk all the time.
 
Using an Upgrade disk to do a clean install of Win7 is *not* the same thing
as doing an In-Place Upgrade to Win7.

ANONYMOUS wrote:
 
The OP had the best strategy of doing a clean install. That is the best
strategy whenever possible to clear all the clutter that has built up.
People had the worst experience when they upgraded from Win98SE to XP. We
don't want to see that again.

By all means buy an upgrade version and save money but do a clean install.
 
ANONYMOUS said:
Another non-sensical reply. People have kept CDs and old floppies
every since computers were first invented so there is no problem in
"needing prior OS". What is the point of spending more than
necessary.

These pigs should be banned from these sites giving stupid advise.
IMO They seem to be drunk all the time.
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Good advice - but one cannot ban people like you - since you don't have the
saq to present who you are.
 
The OP already knows that he needs to do a clean install. In fact he prefers
to do a clean install if you read his responses to various posts. IMO he has
the best strategy but you seem to be going on and on about “In-Place Upgrade
to Win7â€. Are you trying to justify your cockups? If so this is not the
place for it.

Silly b@st@rd.
 
Shenan said:
Good advice - but one cannot ban people like you - since you don't have
the
saq to present who you are.
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But you can <plonk> him...at least using his current email alias.
 
XP OEM is not a valid upgrade proof for any Retail Windows 7 be it Upgrade or Full
version.

OEM to OEM yes OEM to Retail Win 7 No
 
Ryan said:
Is it possible to purchase the Windows 7 upgrade for a computer
with a Windows XP OEM license? I realize that the computer must be
formated and Windows re-installed, just wondering if XP OEM is a
valid upgrade path to version 7.

Also can I upgrade from XP Professional to Windows 7 Home, or is 7
Pro. required?
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Peter said:
XP OEM is not a valid upgrade proof for any Retail Windows 7 be it
Upgrade or Full version.

OEM to OEM yes OEM to Retail Win 7 No
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Please post supporting documentation/links for this limitation you speak of.

For pricing/etc:
http://windowsteamblog.com/blogs/wi...rogram-amp-windows-7-pricing-bring-on-ga.aspx

Want to know if you can upgrade?
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/upgrade-advisor.aspx

How to get Windows 7 (including less expensive limited time pre-ordering):
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows7/products/get
 
Peter Foldes said:
XP OEM is not a valid upgrade proof for any Retail Windows 7 be it Upgrade or Full
version.

OEM to OEM yes OEM to Retail Win 7 No
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I think you need to do more research.
 
I am by no means an expert on the topic , however , I understood that OEM
Windows did not qualify for any type of upgrade.
My understand was that it was locked to the machine it was originally
installed on , and that was it.
As I have OEM XP and I'm interested in the Upgrade Offer , I emailed MS to
ask SPECIFICALLY about OEM > WIN 7

Here is the reply. It appears to be boilerplate and doesn't address my
question directly , but if I try when I receive and my OEM XP is rejected
SOMEONE'S going to hear about it !! ( of course , the alternative would be
to use Win2K ??)

Please note , I'm not starting another thread on in-place upgrade etc...

MS replied

Thank you for contacting the Microsoft Store Customer Care Team,

If I understand your request, you are asking for information about Windows
7 regarding upgrade availability. The following information should assist
you with your inquiry.

All copies of Windows 2000, XP and Windows Vista qualify for upgrade
pricing. However, Windows 2000 and XP users must perform a clean install of
Windows 7.

Please note , it does NOT say ' OEM excluded..? "
 
you can do a format and fresh install with a win7 upgrade disk. You only
have to insert your Vista or XP disk during install to verify that you own
it. And yes the Microsoft upfate will upgrade from Win 2000 or WinXP as well
as Vista according to the MS website.
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There is NO XP to WIN 7 Upgrade path at all..
 
Sparky said:
I am by no means an expert on the topic , however , I understood that
OEM Windows did not qualify for any type of upgrade.
My understand was that it was locked to the machine it was originally
installed on , and that was it.
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It is locked, that is correct. It can be upgraded, though. And the
upgrade (that is, the particular OEM XP on that particular PC that has
been upgraded to Windows 7) would be locked to that PC as well. If you
have *another* PC with another XP license, you may use your Upgrade CD
to eventually upgrade that *other* PC to Windows 7. However, in order to
do so (in compliance with the EULA), you must take Windows 7 off the
other PC.

And as many people have pointed out, "upgrading" in this sense does
*not* mean an in-place upgrade installation; you would need to perform a
Clean Install. When prompted for qualifying media, you would then insert
the Windows XP installation CD. Of course, this would be a big problem
for those whose PCs didn't come with such CDs! Borrowing someone else's
*OEM* version should work and the EULA would still be honored. Still, it
would be a hassle!
As I have OEM XP and I'm interested in the Upgrade Offer , I emailed
MS to ask SPECIFICALLY about OEM > WIN 7

Here is the reply. It appears to be boilerplate and doesn't address my
question directly , but if I try when I receive and my OEM XP is
rejected SOMEONE'S going to hear about it !! ( of course , the
alternative would be to use Win2K ??)

Please note , I'm not starting another thread on in-place upgrade
etc...
MS replied

Thank you for contacting the Microsoft Store Customer Care Team,

If I understand your request, you are asking for information about
Windows 7 regarding upgrade availability. The following information
should assist you with your inquiry.

All copies of Windows 2000, XP and Windows Vista qualify for upgrade
pricing. However, Windows 2000 and XP users must perform a clean
install of Windows 7.

Please note , it does NOT say ' OEM excluded..? "
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Why would it? "All copies" means "all copies." :-)
 
Installing MS operating systems since 3.1, 95 and so on, I digress with your
opinion. The best way is to save all personal data to external media in
that same native application file format, no windows backup. Then, do a
clean install of the new OS on the empty primary boot partition.
 
I am by no means an expert on the topic , however , I understood that OEM
Windows did not qualify for any type of upgrade.
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As far as I know, that is *not* correct.

My understand was that it was locked to the machine it was originally
installed on , and that was it.
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No, not necessarily. Two points here.


1. An OEM license ties it permanently to the first computer it's
installed on. It can never legally be moved to another computer, sold,
or given away (except with the original computer). That's a licensing
issue, not a locking one.

2. On many, but not all, OEM computers that are bought with an OEM
version of Windows pre-installed on it, that copy of Windows is
BIOS-locked to the computer and will not work on another (unless the
motherboard is identical to the original one). If you bought an OEM
copy separately, this is never an issue.

Neither of the above have anything to do with whether an OEM copy can
be upgraded.

As I have OEM XP and I'm interested in the Upgrade Offer , I emailed MS to
ask SPECIFICALLY about OEM > WIN 7

Here is the reply. It appears to be boilerplate and doesn't address my
question directly , but if I try when I receive and my OEM XP is rejected
SOMEONE'S going to hear about it !! ( of course , the alternative would be
to use Win2K ??)

Please note , I'm not starting another thread on in-place upgrade etc...

MS replied

Thank you for contacting the Microsoft Store Customer Care Team,

If I understand your request, you are asking for information about Windows
7 regarding upgrade availability. The following information should assist
you with your inquiry.

All copies of Windows 2000, XP and Windows Vista qualify for upgrade
pricing. However, Windows 2000 and XP users must perform a clean install of
Windows 7.

Please note , it does NOT say ' OEM excluded..? "
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I'm not a Microsoft employee, but that's my understanding too, and I
would have said essentially the same thing.
 
Sparky said:
I am by no means an expert on the topic , however , I understood that OEM
Windows did not qualify for any type of upgrade.
My understand was that it was locked to the machine it was originally
installed on , and that was it.
As I have OEM XP and I'm interested in the Upgrade Offer , I emailed MS to
ask SPECIFICALLY about OEM > WIN 7

Here is the reply. It appears to be boilerplate and doesn't address my
question directly , but if I try when I receive and my OEM XP is rejected
SOMEONE'S going to hear about it !! ( of course , the alternative would
be to use Win2K ??)

Please note , I'm not starting another thread on in-place upgrade etc...

MS replied

Thank you for contacting the Microsoft Store Customer Care Team,

If I understand your request, you are asking for information about Windows
7 regarding upgrade availability. The following information should assist
you with your inquiry.

All copies of Windows 2000, XP and Windows Vista qualify for upgrade
pricing. However, Windows 2000 and XP users must perform a clean install
of Windows 7.

Please note , it does NOT say ' OEM excluded..? "


news:[email protected]...
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That is correct. Also, a clean install can be done two ways.
You can install in the existing Win2k or XP partition, where it
will wipe the existing OS, or you can clean install Win 7 on a
different drive or partition. A clean install is preferrable to
an in place upgrade installation, but does require more effort
in reinstalling applications etc. Also, all the accumulated garbage
is gone.
 
"2. Although many people will tell you that formatting and installing cleanly is always the best way
to go, I disagree. Unlike with previous versions of Windows, an upgrade to XP or later versions of
Windows replaces almost everything, and usually works very well."
Windows itself, yes. But the problem is often with all the programmes that have been added, and the
associated registry entries.

If the PC is working well (boots up quickly, isn't sluggish, taking into account the PC spec) then
upgrading seems reasonable. If not, I recommend a clean install.


Never upgrade any OS. Always purchase the full version. I am not talking
exclusively about XP/Vista/7 but from Windows 95 onwards
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That's *terrible* advice, from two points of view:

1. The Upgrade version of any Windows is less expensive than the Full
Version, and therefore should be bought in preference to it when you
can.

It depends on what versions of Windows you are coming from and going
to, but in general the Upgrade version *can* do a clean installation.
For example, with XP, the requirement to use an upgrade version is to
*own* a previous qualifying version's installation CD, not to have it
installed. When setup doesn't find a previous qualifying version
installed, it will prompt you to insert its CD as proof of ownership.
Just insert the previous version's CD, and follow the prompts.
Everything proceeds quite normally and quite legitimately.

2. Although many people will tell you that formatting and installing
cleanly is always the best way to go, I disagree. Unlike with previous
versions of Windows, an upgrade to XP or later versions of Windows
replaces almost everything, and usually works very well.

My recommendation is to at least try the upgrade, since it's much
easier than a clean installation. You can always change your mind and
reinstall cleanly if problems develop.

However, don't assume that doing an upgrade relieves you of the need
to backup your data, etc. before beginning. Before starting to
upgrade, it's always prudent to recognize that things like a sudden
power loss can occur in the middle of it and cause the loss of
everything. For that reason you should make sure you have backups and
anything else you need to reinstall if the worst happens.
 
WaIIy said:
Why in the world would you do that?

The software is the same, full version or "upgrade".

I would expect watching where you keep your XP CD is worth a hundred
bucks or so.
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My experience and that demonstrated over and over in newsgroups and forums
such as this is that people *will not* do this for one reason or another.
Not always on purpose, but it's just something else to go wrong.

Usually when they 'upgrade' or 'purchase an upgrade version' - they do so on
the advice of someone else or just because it is less expensive and may not
even understand that they need to keep the media.

Save $100, spend it later for most. heh
 
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