Underwhelmed by SP1

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GT said:
All the problems you face are part of Vista. You can't properly run Vista on
laptops yet. I suggest getting XP or Linux.
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What are you talking about? I have been running Vista on a HP dv9000
Vista certified laptop for over a year and a half, with IIS7, SQL Server
2005, VS 2008 and a whole host of other application solutions running in
the background with no problems *none*, and it runs just fine.
 
Paul MontGumDropped said:
What are you talking about? I have been running Vista on a HP dv9000 Vista
certified laptop for over a year and a half, with IIS7, SQL Server 2005,
VS 2008 and a whole host of other application solutions running in the
background with no problems *none*, and it runs just fine.
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Why do you think you're PC is just fine and other people run into constant
problems with the UAs, crashes, freezes etc?
 
news.microsoft.com said:
Why do you think you're PC is just fine and other people run into
constant problems with the UAs, crashes, freezes etc?
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Well, I did an upgrade of the O/S over the pre-installed OEM version of
Vista Home Premium to the retail version of Vista Ultimate, because of
something I needed in IIS on Ultimate that HP didn't have in it. So it
may have corrected some problems of a possible bad OEM install.

I don't install anything on the computer that is not Vista compliant,
like software that is dedicated to run on XP. It is nothing but trouble
on Vista. You see, DLL(s) can come from an install package, and those
DLL(s) are dedicated to running on the XP platform. You have common
named DLL(s) that are on both platforms.

So, if a common named DLL from the XP platform supplants a common named
DLL on the Vista platform, then it can, does and will lead to trouble on
the Vista platform, as it not only breaks the software that was
installed, but it can lead to existing software that is Vista compliant
or Vista itself to start having trouble or start breaking, because many
programs are interfacing and using those common named DLL(s) on the
system. Software developers call it DLL H-E-L-L issues.

http://www.bestvistadownloads.com/
 
GT said:
All the problems you face are part of Vista. You can't properly run Vista
on
laptops yet. I suggest getting XP or Linux.
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Vista Home Premium runs fine on our laptop because it's only used to get
email when on the road, and to do a little surfing. Apparently Vista wasn't
designed to use for work or by those with kids who like the games PCs come
with these days, or who want to ad games or work ap's. Vista is only for
surfing and email... at least that's the impression I'm getting from the
regulars here. We can use our old W98 machines for that. ;-)
 
Keith B. Rosenberg said:
I have a Vista laptop doing quite well actually. I did set
Vista to maximum performance which got rid of much of
the overhead realted ot the GUI. But I also did that
on my desktop. both run about as well as XP did.
Took some doing early on, but SP1 and patches
have made a real difference.
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What "patches" did you get?
 
Paul MontGumDropped said:
Well, I did an upgrade of the O/S over the pre-installed OEM version of
Vista Home Premium to the retail version of Vista Ultimate, because of
something I needed in IIS on Ultimate that HP didn't have in it. So it may
have corrected some problems of a possible bad OEM install.

I don't install anything on the computer that is not Vista compliant, like
software that is dedicated to run on XP. It is nothing but trouble on
Vista. You see, DLL(s) can come from an install package, and those DLL(s)
are dedicated to running on the XP platform. You have common named DLL(s)
that are on both platforms.
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So, if a common named DLL from the XP platform supplants a common named
DLL on the Vista platform, then it can, does and will lead to trouble on
the Vista platform, as it not only breaks the software that was installed,
but it can lead to existing software that is Vista compliant or Vista
itself to start having trouble or start breaking, because many programs
are interfacing and using those common named DLL(s) on the system.
Software developers call it DLL H-E-L-L issues.
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I understood that and it makes sense. Why then does MS claim older programs
will run on Vista? Why weren't people warned they'd have to replace all
their peripherals and software when buying a machine with Vista as the OS?
You're talking about a considerable amount of money to replace hardware and
software when someone is using their machine for business and kids want to
add their favorite games. And no, no one uses this PC but myself but I have
friends and co-workers who must share their PC with others in the home.
Everyone has their own favorite software to add.
 
GT said:
All the problems you face are part of Vista. You can't properly run Vista
on
laptops yet. I suggest getting XP or Linux.
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Uttter nonsense. I run media mastering programs on an HP laptop. No
crashes, ever.
 
news.microsoft.com said:
Vista Home Premium runs fine on our laptop because it's only used to get
email when on the road, and to do a little surfing. Apparently Vista
wasn't designed to use for work or by those with kids who like the games
PCs come with these days, or who want to ad games or work ap's. Vista
is only for surfing and email... at least that's the impression I'm
getting from the regulars here. We can use our old W98 machines for
that. ;-)
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You are a TWIT aren't you? There are many thousands doing WORK on Vista
machines using Office applications....like me. And I get NO crashes.
 
news.microsoft.com said:
Vista Home Premium runs fine on our laptop because it's only used to get
email when on the road, and to do a little surfing. Apparently Vista
wasn't designed to use for work or by those with kids who like the games
PCs come with these days, or who want to ad games or work ap's. Vista
is only for surfing and email... at least that's the impression I'm
getting from the regulars here. We can use our old W98 machines for
that. ;-)
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You need to start being quite now, because you have no idea as to what
you are talking about, and you look very foolish.
 
Paul said:
You need to start being quite now, because you have no idea as to what
you are talking about, and you look very foolish.
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Just curious, how does one start being "quite"?

Alias
 
news.microsoft.com said:
I understood that and it makes sense. Why then does MS claim older
programs will run on Vista? Why weren't people warned they'd have to
replace all their peripherals and software when buying a machine with
Vista as the OS?
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No one buying a computer had to replace peripherals as the machine is
already certified to have peripherals that are compatible with Vista.

Also, MS published tools for pre-Vista machines and pre-Vista software
for the user to run and verify that the machine and the software were up
to Vista standards, which could be run on a XP machine as an example.

<http://searchsystemschannel.techtarget.com/tip/0,289483,sid99_gci1217410,00.html>
<http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-vista/get/upgrade-advisor.aspx>
<http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc749479.aspx>

I myself have a rule of thumb to not install pre-Vista compliant
software, but that doesn't mean the pre-Vista software will not run on
Vista and live happily with other Vista and pre-Vista solutions.

You're talking about a considerable amount of money to
replace hardware and software when someone is using their machine for
business and kids want to add their favorite games. And no, no one uses
this PC but myself but I have friends and co-workers who must share
their PC with others in the home. Everyone has their own favorite
software to add.
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You're talking about legacy solutions now and Vista gives solutions for
out dated legacy technology solutions.

<http://www.microsoft.com/windows/products/winfamily/virtualpc/default.mspx>
<http://windowshelp.microsoft.com/Windows/en-US/Help/bf416877-c83f-4476-a3da-8ec98dcf5f101033.mspx>

Maybe, you need to read this too, because you seem completely out of
control.

<http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/?p=785>

Do you know what your real problem is? You think Vista is XP, and like
most users that whine about Vista, you have not done your homework
concerning Vista.
 
GT said:
All the problems you face are part of Vista. You can't properly run Vista on
laptops yet. I suggest getting XP or Linux.
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I'm late to the Vista game. I bought a Compaq laptop with Vista SP1
installed two months ago. Once I turned off the annoying user account
controls I have had no further software problems. I can't speak to
hardware concerns as I haven't got anything else hooked up to the laptop
yet.

Bill
 
GT said:
All the problems you face are part of Vista. You can't properly run Vista
on
laptops yet.
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Sorry, but that's just not true. I have been running Vista on laptops for
over a year, and it runs not only properly but very well.
I suggest getting XP or Linux.
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On the other hand, Linux is just not acceptable for me because the critical
apps I need are simply not available in Linux ports. Nobody makes them,
and nobody ever will.

HTH
-pk
 
news.microsoft.com said:
I understood that and it makes sense. Why then does MS claim older
programs will run on Vista? Why weren't people warned they'd have to
replace all their peripherals and software when buying a machine with
Vista as the OS?
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Because they don't. Many apps and peripherals do work, so your use of
the word "all" is simply exaggeration.

This situation isn't any different at all to the release of XP, or of other
major Windows versions before it.

And it isn't that different from releases of Mac OS's, either.

HTH
-pk
 
Ken Blake said:
Thanks for the kind words, Lang.





That's a good question, and I don't know the answer. I only have 2GB
here, so can't even readily look around to see where, if you have 2GB,
the actual amount of available memory (*around* 3.1GB, but it can be
as much as 3.5GB or so, depending on what hardware is installed) is
displayed.

Hopefully someone else knows, and will answer.
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Hi Blakey
Remember me "Vangellis" I was the guy who said microsoft had a new operating
system "just around the corner" about 4-6 weeks ago, and you said I was
talking rubbish. yea right..... lol
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/
Vangellis
(forget all the letters after my name, I dont want to make you look too much
of a fool)- MVP lol, your just a learner boy
 
Remember me "Vangellis" I was the guy who said microsoft had a new
operating
system "just around the corner" about 4-6 weeks ago, and you said I was
talking rubbish. yea right..... lol
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windows-7/
Vangellis
(forget all the letters after my name, I dont want to make you look too
much
of a fool)- MVP lol, your just a learner boy
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No, I don't remember you. It's highly unlikely that I said you were talking
"rubbish," since "rubbish" is a word I hardly ever use.

However, if 4-6 weeks ago, you said "Microsoft had a new operating system
'just around the corner,' " what you said was very much wrong. Yes, Windows
7 will be the next version of Windows. No, it's *not* "just around the
corner." Take a look at
http://www.microsoft.com/web/content.aspx?id=microsoft-makes-windows-7-name-final
which states "when it is released to the market--a date currently pegged as
late 2009 or early 2010."

Also realize that "late 2009 or early 2010" is not a promised date, it's an
estimated sate. Based on what's occurred in the past, estimates like this
are much more likely to be too early than accurate.

At any rate, Microsoft is on the on the record for saying that it's at least
a year from now. That's hardly anything like "just around the corner" even
now, let alone 4-6 weeks ago.
 
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