Tricks to jumpstart generic ink carts?

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The numbers are not the whole story....especially if all that "savings"
means a whole lot of trouble and hassle ...

How about if the damn refills even work or not eh???

What good is any savings if you can't print trouble-free -exactly the same-
as you can with factory carts?



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Of course!!!!!!! Uni as always goes right to the root of the issue.....

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Well that is what you say....most everyone that has tried refilling or
generic carts from Staples or Walmart has regretted it.

I don't like paying $35 for $.10 worth of ink but hey I want smooth trouble
free printing and for me HP carts is all I'll use.

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CWatters said:
Well that's a load of crap.

I have an HP that is used mainly for text work. It's seen nothing but
refills for nearly 4 years and still gives first class results. Definitly
cheaper.
When I used to refill my HP cartridges, I found that they were unreliable
after about 4 cycles. The electrical contacts didn't work well anymore.
 
I don't like paying $35 for $.10 worth of ink but hey I want smooth trouble
free printing and for me HP carts is all I'll use.

I'm using HP carts and refilling them myself. I very rarely have a problem -
no more frequency than when I used new HP carts.

The only real problem is the risk of making a mess :-)
 
Marvin Margoshes said:
When I used to refill my HP cartridges, I found that they were unreliable
after about 4 cycles. The electrical contacts didn't work well anymore.

I find the HP carts last about two years before some thing goes wrong. The
Black I refill through the heads but the colour is refilled by needle and
syringe. Two of us share the printer which is used every day.
 
On my very old Cannon black BJ200e printer, I refilled the carts (BJ-06 I
think) dozen of times with success each time.

I refilled the black cart on my 895Cse many times with success too, but
always bought the color cart as these cartridges were fairly large and
lasted a long time for my useage.

Now, I have a HP 7660 Photosmart, and filled the black cart OK, and the
color cart I blocked a cyan nozzle some how, but it is very acceptable until
I get to buy another new one sometime.

This definitely is a savings in $$.

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Charlie said:
Of course!!!!!!! Uni as always goes right to the root of the issue.....

Certainly, Charlie. Some people are pleased with substandard quality.
They don't mind using generic inks, but they also don't mind reprinting
their image/photo over and over, due to premature fading.

:-)

Uni
 
Well that is what you say....most everyone that has tried refilling or
generic carts from Staples or Walmart has regretted it.

I don't like paying $35 for $.10 worth of ink but hey I want smooth trouble
free printing and for me HP carts is all I'll use.

I have been using HP cartridges which I have refilled numerous times.
The inks I use are specific to the particular cartridge. I don't
expect generic inks to work when there are different inks available
for each cartridge type. I have recently bought a refurbished HP 5160
which has more memory and capability than my existing printer as it
uses the same ink to refill the cartridges as the old one

DT
 
Certainly, Charlie. Some people are pleased with substandard quality.
They don't mind using generic inks, but they also don't mind reprinting
their image/photo over and over, due to premature fading.

What about those who want to refill their black carts
Its either that or get a 2nd job to pay for carts when text printing
(or buy a laser)
 
Well that's a load of crap.

I have an HP that is used mainly for text work. It's seen nothing but
refills for nearly 4 years and still gives first class results. Definitly
cheaper.

Refilling HP cartridges is safe because once the head clogs you do
what you would have done earlier otherwise: Buy a new original
cartridge that you can refill again several times.

The same with Epson (head built into printer) gives you the chance to
update the printer hardware :-) 'cause the print head may be more
expensive than the next generation printer.

With regard to image quality and UV resistance some brands of refills
are better than original inks.

Michael
 
Except the cartridges supplied with the new printer are usually contain
a fraction of the ink that a new cartridge does. It really is a sorry
little scam, but I don't know what can be done about it. I found
refilling cartridges a filthy waste. Buying another, much cheaper brand
is a real lottery, but if you can find one that works well for you is
probably the best solution.
In the last 5 or 10 years, owning a computer has moved from an expensive
hobby, to an almost essential part of life. Most of the hardware in that
time has improved in speed and usability by orders of magnitude, and at
the same time the price has drop to a tiny fraction of its cost just a
few years ago. This is a reflection of the economies of scale... it is
far more costly to produce each item that sells a few thousand than it
is to manufacture an item that sells millions.
There are however 2 areas of computers that don't reflect this trend...
printer ink and software. While many other items are sold at a price
that reflects the reduced cost of production, these are sold on the
basis of what the traffic will bear.

There are more items that follow the same policy: Shaving blades and
vacuum cleaner bags.

Where you can not avoid buying original brand supplies you will
shortly find the suppliers hand direcly in your purse.

Michael
 
the printers.


Some printer manufacturers just about do. My daughter bought a cheapie for
her kids, paid $39. It came with a full set of cartridges, one black and
one color. The replacement cartridges cost $61 ($29 blk, $32 color). Geez,
for that, it'd be cheaper to buy a brand new printer every time she needs
ink!

Do it - and sell the empty printers on ebay, some fool will buy them.

Michael
 
her kids, paid $39. It came with a full set of cartridges, one black and
one color. The replacement cartridges cost $61 ($29 blk, $32 color). Geez,
for that, it'd be cheaper to buy a brand new printer every time she needs
ink!>>>>


Done this many times. Epson uses full cart with new printers, so if you find a
deal on a sub $50 Epson, just upgrade your printer.
 
CWatters said:
I find the HP carts last about two years before some thing goes wrong. The
Black I refill through the heads but the colour is refilled by needle and
syringe. Two of us share the printer which is used every day.

Thats a clever idea - filling the black cart through the print head.
Is there any special precaution to take to avoid damaging the head?
Also, how do you tell when you've pumped in enough ink - assuming the
cart wasnt empty initially?
 
Thats a clever idea - filling the black cart through the print head.
Is there any special precaution to take to avoid damaging the head?

The JQ Refill kit I have comes with a holder for the cart....

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This has a rubber seal to protect the head. You fit the cart in the holder
and connect a syringe. First you suck out all the air and any remaining ink.
Then you fill the syringe and reconnect it. It seems to be important to fill
the cart a slowly as possible but that's the only precaution. The cart spec
says 42ml but I usually refill it with about 20ml. Carts refilled like this
do seem to wear out eventually but last me about two years.

Best advice I ever got was to put some plastic down under the newspaper.
Inkjet ink is quite capable of going through a whole newspaper and staining
the table underneath!
 
My experience has been that cartridges tend to die more because of a
lack of use rather than extended use. Once they clog, the don't want
to open up. I've soaked them for days, blasted them with compressed
air, etc. It's all a stop-gap once they clog. Occasionally I get
lucky and one works again for a while.
 
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