Too funny!

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That's a function of the server that you use, not what newsreader you
read it with. Try the server at the University of Berlin. It carries it. http://news.cis.dfn.de/
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Jack



S>Hold on a sec here, someone got ACF via OE?, errr.... how? (I've been
S>trying for months and can't get ACF in OE at all).
 
Alastair said:
Look at the guys 2nd post under this thread, and try to reply to it -
no quotes.

I am no pedant - just trying to help
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I wasn't suggesting you're pedantic and I'm sure you're trying to help.
Sorry for not expressing it better. I was commenting on the reverse
train of events, compared to their "usual" order. In the latter case, it
clearly *is* pedantics, since it doesn't apparently bother the
MS-maulers until quite late in the thread. They toss it in to try to
focus attention away from themselves, once they realise they've been
exposed as frauds/ fools. Some will even pull the covers up over their
heads by killfiling you. ;-)
 
;)
--
Jack

A> I wasn't suggesting you're pedantic and I'm sure you're trying to
A> help. Sorry for not expressing it better. I was commenting on the
A> reverse train of events, compared to their "usual" order. In the
A> latter case, it clearly *is* pedantics, since it doesn't apparently
A> bother the MS-maulers until quite late in the thread. They toss it
A> in to try to focus attention away from themselves, once they realise
A> they've been exposed as frauds/ fools. Some will even pull the
A> covers up over their heads by killfiling you. ;-)
 
I wasn't suggesting you're pedantic and I'm sure you're trying to help.
Sorry for not expressing it better. I was commenting on the reverse
train of events, compared to their "usual" order. In the latter case, it
clearly *is* pedantics, since it doesn't apparently bother the
MS-maulers until quite late in the thread. They toss it in to try to
focus attention away from themselves, once they realise they've been
exposed as frauds/ fools. Some will even pull the covers up over their
heads by killfiling you. ;-)
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No offence taken then. I just didn't (and still don't) see what OE or
MS bashing has/had to do with what I said. Only reason I mentioned OE
was because he had formatting problems and I looked and saw he used it
- would have said the same had it been Agent or whatever - with most
readers, there are configuration options ...

cheers
 
Oh I get it. You're another of the group traffic guards. OK.
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No I am not - see occasional disagreements I have had with Blinky,
John C etc...
Your opinion noted. As I said, I wouldn't think that any explanation
would have been necessary. Again, guess not.
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You will see I was not the only one confused.
AS> I am no expert on Outlook Express- as I said, might be my problem.
AS> but your's is the only post I can remember which does not wrap
AS> properly.

I don't use OEx except in the strictest definition. I use the Outlook
Newsreader with Fidolook SL. I had installed Outlook Quote-fix to try it
out and didn't realize that it would play havoc with everything. I hope
that's what the problem is anyway.
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Looks like it - this post seems fine in my newsreader.
No, I am aware of what a proper sig delimiter is. Maybe your newsreader
isn't as versatile as it should be. The root of the problem (other than
my formatting problem) is that top posting is my preference. Since I
have no desire to join the current clique here, I will continue to
exercise my preference while using the group. It's OK if you prefer to
bottom post, even though it does cause some problems for those that
don't. We'll just adjust accordingly if we want to participate in a
conversation with you. It's really not that big of a deal. I do hope
that my formatting is working correctly for you. I posted some test
messages to see if the formatting was working as it should. As far as I
can tell, it should be now, but it's hard to tell as my newsreader lets
me set it for both composing a message and reading others messages any
way that I want.
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Don't really mind top-posting, unless it gets in the way - glad you
know what a sig delimiter is - again, I don't care how you implement
your sig, but in your original post, as it was right at the top, in
replying to you it made it difficult to quote you.

I now see that you are aware of this, and were experimenting (as you
have said)
AS> Glad to help

It really is appreciated, and I hope I've solved the problem. Have a
good one.
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and you
 
That's a function of the server that you use, not what newsreader you
read it with. Try the server at the University of Berlin. It carries it. http://news.cis.dfn.de/
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Jack,

It does look like something is wrong with the placement of you sig
delimiter. Here's what this post that I'm replying to looked like
(delimited by the "====") befor I hit the reply button:

=================

That's a function of the server that you use, not what newsreader you
read it with. Try the server at the University of Berlin. It carries
it. http://news.cis.dfn.de/
--
Jack



S>Hold on a sec here, someone got ACF via OE?, errr.... how? (I've
been
S>trying for months and can't get ACF in OE at all).

================

Note that some of the message that you are quoting as "S>" is after
the sig delimiter.
 
Alan said:
I wasn't suggesting you're pedantic and I'm sure you're trying to
help. Sorry for not expressing it better. I was commenting on the
reverse train of events, compared to their "usual" order. In the
latter case, it clearly *is* pedantics, since it doesn't apparently
bother the MS-maulers until quite late in the thread. They toss it in
to try to focus attention away from themselves, once they realise
they've been exposed as frauds/ fools. Some will even pull the covers
up over their heads by killfiling you. ;-)
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No freeware their............

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lsj7

It may be true that you can't fool all the people all the time, but you
can fool enough of them to rule a large country.
________will durant
 
You're right, of course. I should have qualified my subject and post as
to what I was referring too. I guess that I take some things for granted
that I shouldn't. It was meant to be whimsical in a serious sort of way.
I really didn't mean to be experimenting, it just happened. I had my
settings configured with Fidolook and they were different than the
default settings of Outlook Quote-fix. I thought that I could use either
or when doing NGs. Fidolook is my preference. But...it seems that OL Q-F
launches with the Outlook part of the system unless specifically set not
to. The end result was conflicting settings that neither program could
deal with so all settings were just ignored. Outlook Quote-fix may be a
good program for Outlook newsreader users but it is no where near as
powerful or configurable as Fidolook, so out it goes. Thanks for
pointing out the problem in the courteous, non-contentious way that you
did. I probably wouldn't have realized that a problem existed if you
hadn't. As for the text that I quote not showing up in your reply, It's
set not to. Fidolook allows for users to set it to work with either
USENET style (Greeting>>Sig>>Original message) or Fidolook style
(Greeting>>Original message>>Sig). I have it set for USENET style.
--
Jack

AS> On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 07:21:48 -0500, "Jack D. Russell, Sr."
AS>
AS> No I am not - see occasional disagreements I have had with Blinky,
AS> John C etc...
AS>>
AS> You will see I was not the only one confused.
AS>
AS> Looks like it - this post seems fine in my newsreader.
AS>
AS> Don't really mind top-posting, unless it gets in the way - glad you
AS> know what a sig delimiter is - again, I don't care how you
AS> implement your sig, but in your original post, as it was right at
AS> the top, in replying to you it made it difficult to quote you.
AS>
AS> I now see that you are aware of this, and were experimenting (as
AS> you have said)
AS>
AS> and you
AS> --
AS> Alastair Smeaton
 
Yes, see my reply to AS. My reader was set for USENET style. That
places my sig after my reply, not after what I quoted. It's set for
Fidolook style on this post...The sig at the bottom after the complete
message. I would think that others would prefer the USENET style, as it
saves them from having to eliminate the quoted text from the reply.
Since my newsreader automatically ignores the greeting, sig, and
formatting of the post that I'm replying to and formats the post
according to my wishes regardless of the OPs formatting instructions, I
don't always see any formatting errors, missing quotes, etc. Perhaps
I'll try this format for a while and see if any complaints arise. Wanna
bet someone won't like it this way either.;) Heck, I'm surprised that
one of the control freaks hasn't complained about my X-face yet.Thanks,
Vic. Have a good one.




VD> On Sat, 1 Nov 2003 07:28:58 -0500, RE: Re: Re: Too funny! "Jack
VD>
VD> Jack,
VD>
VD> It does look like something is wrong with the placement of you sig
VD> delimiter. Here's what this post that I'm replying to looked like
VD> (delimited by the "====") befor I hit the reply button:
VD>
VD> =================
VD>
VD> That's a function of the server that you use, not what newsreader
VD> you read it with. Try the server at the University of Berlin. It
VD> carries it. http://news.cis.dfn.de/
VD> --
VD> Jack
VD>
VD> been
S>> trying for months and can't get ACF in OE at all).
VD> ================
VD>
VD> Note that some of the message that you are quoting as "S>" is after
VD> the sig delimiter.
VD>
 
You're right, of course. I should have qualified my subject and post as
to what I was referring too. I guess that I take some things for granted
that I shouldn't. It was meant to be whimsical in a serious sort of way.
I really didn't mean to be experimenting, it just happened. I had my
settings configured with Fidolook and they were different than the
default settings of Outlook Quote-fix. I thought that I could use either
or when doing NGs. Fidolook is my preference. But...it seems that OL Q-F
launches with the Outlook part of the system unless specifically set not
to. The end result was conflicting settings that neither program could
deal with so all settings were just ignored. Outlook Quote-fix may be a
good program for Outlook newsreader users but it is no where near as
powerful or configurable as Fidolook, so out it goes. Thanks for
pointing out the problem in the courteous, non-contentious way that you
did. I probably wouldn't have realized that a problem existed if you
hadn't. As for the text that I quote not showing up in your reply, It's
set not to. Fidolook allows for users to set it to work with either
USENET style (Greeting>>Sig>>Original message) or Fidolook style
(Greeting>>Original message>>Sig). I have it set for USENET style.
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Just to round this off - I clicked reply, and got the above - your
reply quoted, but not what *you* quoted.

This seems fine to me - the way you had it set up before, clicking
reply gave me nothing but a blank sheet - had to cut and paste to give
some context to what I was saying.

Cheers
 
Fidolook allows for users to set it to work with either
USENET style (Greeting>>Sig>>Original message) or Fidolook style
(Greeting>>Original message>>Sig). I have it set for USENET style.
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Does Fidolook actually call placing the sig above quoted text
'USENET style' or was that your own phrase to describe the setting?
 
Perhaps I'll try this format for a while and see if any complaints
arise. Wanna bet someone won't like it this way either.;)
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As long as you are top-posting and using non-standard quote indictors,
you'll get legit complaints.
 
Thanks. I'll run like this for awhile and see what happens.


AS> On Sun, 2 Nov 2003 06:50:06 -0500, "Jack D. Russell, Sr."
AS>
AS> Just to round this off - I clicked reply, and got the above - your
AS> reply quoted, but not what *you* quoted.
AS>
AS> This seems fine to me - the way you had it set up before, clicking
AS> reply gave me nothing but a blank sheet - had to cut and paste to
AS> give some context to what I was saying.
AS>
AS> Cheers
 
Yes, It's Fidolook's terminology. Not mine.


Q> Does Fidolook actually call placing the sig above quoted text
Q> 'USENET style' or was that your own phrase to describe the setting?
Q>
 
Complaints? OK. Legit? Your opinion. Isn't it great that we aren't all
the same?;)

Q> As long as you are top-posting and using non-standard quote
Q> indictors, you'll get legit complaints.
Q>
 
Jack said:
Complaints? OK. Legit? Your opinion. Isn't it great that we aren't all
the same?;)

Q> As long as you are top-posting and using non-standard quote
Q> indictors, you'll get legit complaints.
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It's not *always* great to be different - conforming to a set of rules
is sometimes helpful to all - automobile traffic flows more smoothly
if everyone drives on the right or everyone drives on the left . . .

In Usenet posts flow more smoothly if the conventions of a newsgroup are
followed . . .

JMO :)

Susan
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It's not *always* great to be different - conforming to a set of
rules is sometimes helpful to all - automobile traffic flows
more smoothly if everyone drives on the right or everyone drives
on the left . . .

In Usenet posts flow more smoothly if the conventions of a
newsgroup are followed . . .

JMO :)
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And a good one. As opposed to "*I* prefer to do it this way" or "This
way is easier for *me.*"
 
lsj7 said:
No freeware their............
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HTH
 
Jack D. Russell said:
Complaints? OK. Legit? Your opinion. Isn't it great that we aren't all
the same?;)
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While you, in your top-posting way blithely display your total
ignorance of or lack of regard for long-established conventions that
have nothing whatever to with "opinion" but which exist, by common
consent, to make it easier for the rest of the world to co-exist and ot
communicate intelligibly. _That's_ why I have no further interest in
continuing to try to read your ass-backwards, self-absorbed drivel.
"Jack Russell", indeed; in name, at least, you risk insulting a highly
intelligent breed.
 
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