the password is recognised, yet login stops

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Bob I said:
I think you are looking for "Soon" or "near future", as in "I will be
reinstalling W2K soon."
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I like the turn the discussion took. :-)
Actually when I was writing "I was about to reinstall" I was going to do it
immediately and already started preparations by backing up some data.
Waiting for copying to complete I checked this NG and suspended
reinstalling only because the chanse to restore w2k suddenly popped up
here. Is "Soon" or "near future" more appropriae this this situation?
 
aa said:
Thanks, Now I am equipped with theory to proceed.

I will explore

Win2000 hive.

I understand that disk drive letters on one OS have nothing to do with
disk
drive letters on another OS on the same computer.
Yet I wonder how come resizing partitions with Partition Magic on XP
affected w2k so badly.
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I've seen this happen before. It is perhaps the result of the partitioning
software creating a new Volume-ID (the one you see when you run mountvol.exe
at the Command Prompt). When Windows starts the first time, it believes that
this is a new volume and it assigns a free drive letter. If this is correct
then the fault lies with PQ Magic (which is *not* supported by Microsoft,
same as all other partition managers).
 
aa said:
I like the turn the discussion took. :-)
Actually when I was writing "I was about to reinstall" I was going to do it
immediately and already started preparations by backing up some data.
Waiting for copying to complete I checked this NG and suspended
reinstalling only because the chanse to restore w2k suddenly popped up
here. Is "Soon" or "near future" more appropriae this this situation?
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In this case I think "I am making preparations to reinstall" would
identify the time frame more closely.
 
aa said:
This options is pre-set to 300.
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This option is really two options. If the checkbox is checked, then the
number you have here is the maximum number that will be read at a time. If
the checkbox is unchecked, then ALL will be read.
Does the number of headers mean number of subjects or number of messages?
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I don't know exactly what it means. I just know that unchecking the
checkbox solved my problem of missing messages in a thread a few years back.

-Paul Randall
 
I had to be out for rwo days, now am back to proceed with this prob.
But before starting playnig with the register I would like to back all the
data. But before backing up I wanted to run full virus-check with cureit and
this is going to be a several hours task. I therefore wanted to work on
another system block, but for that system block I have only one monitor from
an old win98 comp which does not work properly with that system block - I
have started another thread on it
 
Pegasus said:
You may be able to log into
~~~ Windows by copying userinit.exe to ?:\WinNT\system32 where
~~~ ?: represents each and every partition you have on your hard disk.
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I have WinNT\system32 on one partition only, but I have two more partition,
one with XP and another with no OS, just data. So before I can copy
userinit.exe I need to create an empty folder WinNT; then create empty
folder system32 and tonly then copy userinit.exe into system32 - is that
what u mean? Or I need to copy the whole WinNT including all files and
subfolders?
 
aa said:
I have WinNT\system32 on one partition only, but I have two more
partition,
one with XP and another with no OS, just data. So before I can copy
userinit.exe I need to create an empty folder WinNT; then create empty
folder system32 and tonly then copy userinit.exe into system32 - is that
what u mean? Or I need to copy the whole WinNT including all files and
subfolders?
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Literally follow my instruction ":by copying userinit.exe to
?:\WinNT\system32".
I said nothing about any other files.
 
Pegasus said:
Literally follow my instruction ":by copying userinit.exe to
?:\WinNT\system32".
I said nothing about any other files.
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Sorry, Pegasus, your instruction cannot be followed literally. The
Instruction instructs to copy userinit.exe to WinNT\system32 on EVERY
partition and I do not have WinNT\system32 on every partition - so before
copying I do have to create empty WinNT\system32 on those partitions, don't
I?

I would better understand if I knew how login goes on. Do u mean that w2k
looks for WinNT\system32\userinit.exe on a wrong partition, so rather then
re-direct him to the right partition, I deliver userinit.exe to that wrong
place for him.
My concern is that earlier you said that it is not just userinit.exe, it a
lot of other OS files are involved in the process. Thereore offering just
userinit.exe might not satisfy him.
 
aa said:
Sorry, Pegasus, your instruction cannot be followed literally. The
Instruction instructs to copy userinit.exe to WinNT\system32 on EVERY
partition and I do not have WinNT\system32 on every partition - so before
copying I do have to create empty WinNT\system32 on those partitions,
don't
I? Yes.

I would better understand if I knew how login goes on. Do u mean that w2k
looks for WinNT\system32\userinit.exe on a wrong partition, so rather then
re-direct him to the right partition, I deliver userinit.exe to that wrong
place for him. Yes.

My concern is that earlier you said that it is not just userinit.exe, it a
lot of other OS files are involved in the process. Thereore offering just
userinit.exe might not satisfy him.
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This is why I wrote "It may work". However, there is no point in copying
other files. If you still cannot logon then this would be because certain
registry pointers.

I recommend you take a more relaxed attitude about the whole thing.
Creating a folder/subfolder on some partitions and copying a single file
there is far, far less intrusive than resizing partitions. Just stop
worrying
and get on with the job!
 
Just tried to create WinNT\system32 on my logical disk - the one with no
OS, but WINNT/system32 was already there !!!???
The contents was a strange one: no files but one folder WBEM having two
other folders Logs and MOF
MOF contained two folders called bad and good, both empty

Logs contained three text files:
wbemcore.log
WinMgmt.log
wmiadap.log

wbemcore.log has the folloing records:
(Sat Oct 03 13:20:56 2009) : Core physically unloaded! // this seem to
coinside with the time the problem happens
(Tue Oct 06 15:43:19 2009) : Core physically unloaded!
(Wed Oct 14 17:25:06 2009) : Core physically unloaded!
(Thu Oct 15 19:49:24 2009) : Core physically unloaded! //this seems to be
the time of the last attempt to login to w2k

WinMgmt.log has records like this
(Sat Oct 03 13:20:56 2009) : core is being shut down by WinMgmt.exe, it
returned 0x0
with time stamps matching those in wbemcore.log

WinMgmt.log has records like this
(Sat Oct 03 13:13:39 2009) : CWMIBroker::HandleConnectServerFailure connect
to namespace \\.\root\cimv2 returned 8007007E.
(Sat Oct 03 13:13:39 2009) : CAdapRegPerf::EnumPerfDlls() failed: 80041001.
with time stamps matching those in wbemcore.log

When I re-named this WINNT folder and restarted computer, a new WINNT folder
was created on the same logical disk with similar files

What is this?
 
aa said:
Just tried to create WinNT\system32 on my logical disk - the one with no
OS, but WINNT/system32 was already there !!!???
The contents was a strange one: no files but one folder WBEM having two
other folders Logs and MOF
MOF contained two folders called bad and good, both empty

Logs contained three text files:
wbemcore.log
WinMgmt.log
wmiadap.log

wbemcore.log has the folloing records:
(Sat Oct 03 13:20:56 2009) : Core physically unloaded! // this seem to
coinside with the time the problem happens
(Tue Oct 06 15:43:19 2009) : Core physically unloaded!
(Wed Oct 14 17:25:06 2009) : Core physically unloaded!
(Thu Oct 15 19:49:24 2009) : Core physically unloaded! //this seems to be
the time of the last attempt to login to w2k

WinMgmt.log has records like this
(Sat Oct 03 13:20:56 2009) : core is being shut down by WinMgmt.exe, it
returned 0x0
with time stamps matching those in wbemcore.log

WinMgmt.log has records like this
(Sat Oct 03 13:13:39 2009) : CWMIBroker::HandleConnectServerFailure
connect
to namespace \\.\root\cimv2 returned 8007007E.
(Sat Oct 03 13:13:39 2009) : CAdapRegPerf::EnumPerfDlls() failed:
80041001.
with time stamps matching those in wbemcore.log

When I re-named this WINNT folder and restarted computer, a new WINNT
folder
was created on the same logical disk with similar files

What is this?
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Sorry, don't know. I have now run out of silver bullets. You should now
reconsider one of the options a) to e) that I mentioned in my reply of last
Friday.
 
Sorry, don't know. I have now run out of silver bullets. You should now
reconsider one of the options a) to e) that I mentioned in my reply of last
Friday.
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Google search against wbemcore.log, WinMgmt.log and wmiadap.log did not
bring any connections with viruses, so this might be a default behavour when
userinit.exe is not found.
I proceeded with your third option and ... your silver bullet worked. I
loged in to w2k !
Windows Explorer shows that w2k is on drive E
Now with regedit I can see HKLM\System\MountedDevices sever DosDevices
marked from A to H (B is ommited)
One of them should be renamed to E

Shall I assume that A is always a floppy, so I need to try to rename to E
devices C,D,F,G and H ?
 
further to my previous - there are shortcuts on my destop to some files on
my logical disk which is now D, but shortcuts point to disk E which is now
w2k - so I guess I need just swap letters D and E ?
 
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