The alt.comp.freeware F.A.Q. is here.

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Bookmarked,
Thanks John
Enjoy your day,
Moi
(p.s. enjoy your pithy posts elsewhere (darn, sound like Sylvester for some
reason)
 
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Regular posting of a newsgroup's F.A.Q. is a very common practice in
usenet. In fact, there used to be a guy in the rec.motorcycles.harley
newsgroup that had a program which would automatically post a message
with the link to that group's F.A.Q. on a weekly basis.
I intend to try and post it manually every Friday, so get used to it.
 
Bookmarked,
Thanks John
Enjoy your day,
Moi
(p.s. enjoy your pithy posts elsewhere (darn, sound like Sylvester for some
reason)
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Lance,
Hope you enjoy the F.A.Q. Your support is very much appreciated.
 
Henk de Jong said:
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Sure: It forced up a glob of mucus, phlegm, sputum, whatever you
want to call it, and spit it out, most likely on its monitor. A common
social custom and sometimes expression of disdain among certain
not-quite-man bottom-feeders in the USofA.
Aren't you glad that you asked?
 
Regular posting of a newsgroup's F.A.Q. is a very common practice in
usenet. In fact, there used to be a guy in the rec.motorcycles.harley
newsgroup that had a program which would automatically post a message
with the link to that group's F.A.Q. on a weekly basis.
I intend to try and post it manually every Friday, so get used to it.
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heh. My first thoughts on replying to this post were something on the
lines of "well you find out from the motorbike man how to post the FAQ
automatically, and I'm sure I can work out a cron job to post an automatic
yak (say) half an hour later if we get synchronized with time zones"

But no. I do see the need to post a FAQ regularly, and it is of benefit to
new users and regulars. And it's a good FAQ, with all sorts of side-issues
covered.
My initial objections were to the use of that FAQ as a weapon: the very
condescending "you are a newbie, we know more than you, I am in charge,
this is how this group is expected to behave, here is the uniform you are
expected to wear and this is the salute you should use when pressing the
post key" (OK, I made that last bit up). The posts (and answers to posts)
using the FAQ *were* important, *did* give information, but were also to
establish pissing rights or pecking order or whatever is the fashionable
phrase.

<hollywood-style flashback for personal motivations>
##in a sunlit park, remembering shouting teachers, crotchety judges etc##
I react badly to authority (when they're not carrying either a well-padded
white envelope with my name and a bank total on it, or weaponry). I react
particularly badly to self-appointed authority figures. Even if those
self-appointed authority figures are doing good on the whole, using the
self-appointed authority at the expense of others is unforgivable in my
book and will get you flamed.
</hollywood-style flashback for personal motivations>

Props to you John for this initial post for being more humourous and less
condescending than any I've seen so far. If I'd arrived to this sort of
post, then I may well have not developed an auto-yak reflex.

And the last paragraph is the closest you're gonna get to an apology.
 
My initial objections were to the use of that FAQ as a weapon: the very
condescending "you are a newbie, we know more than you, I am in charge,
this is how this group is expected to behave, here is the uniform you are
expected to wear and this is the salute you should use when pressing the
post key"
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You get points for snobbery but your hypocritical ideas are
transparent. Fact is people do look for answers, if you know what
those answers are already why hold a grudge against someone else who
is supplying them unless you yourself are trying to maintain a status
quo, which you claim yourself to be against.
 
Sure: It forced up a glob of mucus, phlegm, sputum, whatever you
want to call it, and spit it out, most likely on its monitor. A common
social custom and sometimes expression of disdain among certain
not-quite-man bottom-feeders in the USofA.
Aren't you glad that you asked?
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It? Twat!
 
It's not the supplying of information -which is self-evidently good-, but
the *manner* of supplying information that I'm questioning.
Points for snobbery? Been here 2 weeks.
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If you want to set yourself up as moderator then you should just do so
and then leave it to the group to decide if or not your efforts are of
any worth to them. I'm not blaming you but you havn't actually
produced a FAQ have you so you are in no position to do that right
now. As for being here two weeks the term "here" is a subjective
thing, and seems to suggest that your whole life experience where you
are not looking at a bunch of posts in a newsgroup is somehow to be
inferior.

I've "locked horns" with John before and most times he came out
winning, I think my best argument was that since computer hardware
isn't free and the number of people who have access to it isn't a fair
distrubution this makes the whole concept of freeware a misnomer. He
left the group for a week or so after that possibly of his own accord
but I was left thinking it may have been me, the group didn't fall
apart but neither did it improve in any massive way and besides people
didn't have access to either his FAQ or his knowledge of freeware or
anything else, just because nobody is irreplaceable doesn't mean to
say that they are expendible, and just because everything in life
isn't free doesn't mean to say that things have to be all free or not,
generalisations work perfectly well you just have to see them for what
they are and that is a context for more possibilitys to happen in. Do
what you want but I'd advise not wasting your life away trying to
remove other peoples possibilitys in order to get attention like I
have done before, especially when they are not asking for trouble and
right now I don't think John is. Plenty of people here to kick his ass
if he does. :o) Wouldn't worry if I were you...
 
If you want to set yourself up as moderator

Christ no!
and then leave it to the group to decide if or not your efforts are of
any worth to them.
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I'm not blaming you but you havn't actually
produced a FAQ have you so you are in no position to do that right
now.
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And what would be the point? There's 2 good FAQs already

As for being here two weeks the term "here" is a subjective
thing, and seems to suggest that your whole life experience where you
are not looking at a bunch of posts in a newsgroup is somehow to be
inferior.
Huh?

I've "locked horns" with John before and most times he came out
winning, I think my best argument was that since computer hardware
isn't free and the number of people who have access to it isn't a fair
distrubution this makes the whole concept of freeware a misnomer.
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Not true. The warez can be free whether or not you have the wherewithal to
run it.
He left the group for a week or so after that possibly of his own
accord but I was left thinking it may have been me, the group didn't
fall apart but neither did it improve in any massive way and besides
people didn't have access to either his FAQ or his knowledge of
freeware or anything else, just because nobody is irreplaceable
doesn't mean to say that they are expendible, and just because
everything in li fe isn't free doesn't mean to say that things have to
be all free or not, generalisations work perfectly well you just have
to see them for what they are and that is a context for more
possibilitys to happen in. Do what you want but I'd advise not wasting
your life away trying to remove other peoples possibilitys in order to
get attention like I have done before, especially when they are not
asking for trouble and right now I don't think John is. Plenty of
people here to kick his ass if he does. :o) Wouldn't worry if I were
you...
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Everybody's possibilities are their own, and I have no intention of
touching them, even if they've been washed.
 
Christ no!



And what would be the point? There's 2 good FAQs already
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Right so that means then that you don't have to have a FAQ to be a
moderator, therefore the FAQ is as much John's as it is yours, and it
follows that your accusations that it is John who is pushing the FAQ
in the wrong way is completley unfounded since you already agree that
it isn't infact his FAQ to push.
Huh?
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I'm just asking why it's relevant how long you have been posting in
one particular place as regards one other persons posting habits.
Not true. The warez can be free whether or not you have the wherewithal to
run it.
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In that case you have no choice but to accept that everything will be
taken away from you. It's a circular argument that, and it's based on
a contradiction which is no way to have any claim to being right about
something taken seriously.
 
Right so that means then that you don't have to have a FAQ to be a
moderator, therefore the FAQ is as much John's as it is yours, and it
follows that your accusations that it is John who is pushing the FAQ
in the wrong way is completley unfounded since you already agree that
it isn't infact his FAQ to push.
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Oh gawd. I don't have a FAQ. The FAQ is John's coz he wrote it.
 
I will if you don't start attributing your quotes.
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Can I watch?

--
Tiger

"If I am capable of grasping God objectively, I do not believe; but
precisely because I cannot do this, I must believe."
- Soren Kierkegaard
 
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