Temp of Dual core system

[General Schvantzkoph]

Take the side off of the case and see what happens. It sounds like you
have a problem with your case fans, taking the side of the case off will
confirm it. With the side off you should see a much lower rise in
temperature.

 

[Ed]

Max temp would be a single number, not a range. I think it's called T-case
temp. Ahh, so now you use Tcontrol 70C max for dual core.
You should have left that alone.
You're flirting with instability, not to mention CnQ didn't function on my
old hammer core when I changed vcore.
Sure. Lowering voltage will always lower temps.

No, I'd call well inside the range at about 50C or less.

To be honest, you didn't fix the problem. you made adjustments to decrease
the temp. Under load that CPU shouldn't go over 50C.

Agree about adjustments, but for all you know his room temp could be 30C
, it's not easy to keep a CPU cool in a hot room!

 

[Wes Newell]

Ok check this out and read what it says under max temp

http://www.amdcompare.com/us-en/desktop/details.aspx?opn=ADA4200DAA5BV

But that's just part of it. Each CPU is encoded with max Tcase temps and
they range from 49-71C. On the dual cores there's a new one called
Tcontrol that is fixed for use. It's 70C on all of them. A little
confusing, but explained some what in one of the AMD docs. The A64 power
and thermal doc hasn't been updated for dual cores yet, but the one for
the Opteron has. I think that's where I found the info, but I went through
so many I don't recall for sure which one it was that actually explained
it. In the end, it's bascially the same 70C though.

Well dosn't cool and quiet work by lowering the vcore voltage?????

Lowers voltage and multiplier, but doesn't work on my board if the voltage
is set to anything except default. ymmv.

Not going to re-enable it............ and system is quite stable.......

It's your data/choice.

hence the way that cool and quiet works....

Well, there's a default setting for a reason. If you manually lower
voltages and not speed, you need to do a thorough stability test.

And your basing this on??????

Everyone elses reported temps, along with the 2 I have that run at about
33C at idle and under 50C at full load.

 

[Wes Newell]

Agree about adjustments, but for all you know his room temp could be 30C
, it's not easy to keep a CPU cool in a hot room!

I think he stated earlier that room temp was 26C.

 

[tazman]

most commercial water coolers under $200 won't work much better than air.
Forget it. You don't need water cooling. Just find an fix the problem. If
the cpu cooler is mounted correctly, I'd suggest a bios update. Some
bioses reported wrong temps. Or if you're using a program to read the
temps, it could be configured for the wrong sensors.

Well I have now got Water cooling. Installed a Thermaltake Bigwater and now
have alot cooler temps.

System is now sitting at 55c (down from over 70c) fully loaded. This is with
the 12cm fan turned right down (1200RPM) and it is also alot quieter that it
was with the stock cooler on. With the fan at full speed (2400RPM) the temp
drops to 52c. The chipset temp also dropped to 37c (down from 46c when
loaded..)

When at Idle The temp drops to around 32c on both the CPU and the Chipset.

So overall the $145 water cooling system is working better than the stock
cooling fan. So this cooling system must be on of the exceptions to the "
most commercial water coolers under $200 won't work much better than air."

Cheers and Beers

Taz

 

[General Schvantzkoph]

Well I have now got Water cooling. Installed a Thermaltake Bigwater and now
have alot cooler temps.

System is now sitting at 55c (down from over 70c) fully loaded. This is with
the 12cm fan turned right down (1200RPM) and it is also alot quieter that it
was with the stock cooler on. With the fan at full speed (2400RPM) the temp
drops to 52c. The chipset temp also dropped to 37c (down from 46c when
loaded..)

When at Idle The temp drops to around 32c on both the CPU and the Chipset.

So overall the $145 water cooling system is working better than the stock
cooling fan. So this cooling system must be on of the exceptions to the "
most commercial water coolers under $200 won't work much better than air."

Cheers and Beers

Taz

How hot is your room? My 4400+ CPU never goes over 40C with an ordinary
air cooling, it idles at 30C. Either you have your system in a steambath
or there is something wrong with your temperature sensors.

 

[Bill]

Well I have now got Water cooling. Installed a Thermaltake Bigwater and now
have alot cooler temps.

System is now sitting at 55c (down from over 70c) fully loaded. This is with
the 12cm fan turned right down (1200RPM) and it is also alot quieter that it
was with the stock cooler on. With the fan at full speed (2400RPM) the temp
drops to 52c. The chipset temp also dropped to 37c (down from 46c when
loaded..)

Those temps are still higher than my x2 3800+, and I'm overclocking 25%
and use decent air cooling.

But still the numbers are closer to normal now. Which would lead me to
believe that installing the water cooling didn't make a big difference,
it merely forced a proper installation.

When at Idle The temp drops to around 32c on both the CPU and the Chipset.

That's about typical. A guy from my work has a water cooled system, and
his temps are only a couple of degrees lower than mine. He wasn't
impressed with the results.