Taking the plunge, deleted XP

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Kerry Brown

My testing phase with Vista is over. I'm using it full time now. I only have
one install of XP left on an old laptop that can't run Vista. I keep it
around for guests to use so they don't mess up any of my regular computers.
Contrary to all the naysayers here I think Vista is ready for the prime
time. My last hurdle was getting my Treo 650 to sync with Outlook 2007. I
finally got some time yesterday to figure that out so I switched to Vista
full time. I retired my main XP pc. It's been replaced by a notebook running
Vista Ultimate x64 RTM. My Vista test pc has been formatted and Vista x86
RTM installed with a dual boot to Server 2003 for testing server apps. So
far I'm not regretting the decision to dump XP. Time will tell I guess.
 
You just kissed goodbye to whatever was left of your brain...

Dont tell me I didnt warn ya!
 
I too moved to Vista and so far my greatest disappointment is Windows Mail.
The 'watched message' is very slow to respond or in some cases doesn't work
at all. I have the Tools|Options|General "Check for new" every 5 minutes and
Tools|Accounts|"account"|Include this account and mostly the group doesn't
turn red until I restart the application. Big bummer.

Also with OE6 when entering a newsgroup (via the folder list) the focus
stayed in the folders pane. With Windows Mail the focus goes to the first
unread message and automatically download it (preview pane is on in both
cases) Very confusing since I don't want any message marked as read unless I
have actually read it. No way to stop this short of turning off the preview
pane.

Performance for searching the 'sent items' (or other) folders has decreased
dramatically. This may be a result of the different data store and I could
live with this if the other two get fixed.


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Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect
 
If you think windows mail is bad.. you should see
windows live mail desktop....

its still in beta.. but I know the outcome.. another vista quality product.

Dave Patrick said:
I too moved to Vista and so far my greatest disappointment is Windows Mail.
The 'watched message' is very slow to respond or in some cases doesn't work
at all. I have the Tools|Options|General "Check for new" every 5 minutes
and Tools|Accounts|"account"|Include this account and mostly the group
doesn't turn red until I restart the application. Big bummer.

Also with OE6 when entering a newsgroup (via the folder list) the focus
stayed in the folders pane. With Windows Mail the focus goes to the first
unread message and automatically download it (preview pane is on in both
cases) Very confusing since I don't want any message marked as read unless
I have actually read it. No way to stop this short of turning off the
preview pane.

Performance for searching the 'sent items' (or other) folders has
decreased dramatically. This may be a result of the different data store
and I could live with this if the other two get fixed.


--

Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

Kerry Brown said:
My testing phase with Vista is over. I'm using it full time now. I only
have one install of XP left on an old laptop that can't run Vista. I keep
it around for guests to use so they don't mess up any of my regular
computers. Contrary to all the naysayers here I think Vista is ready for
the prime time. My last hurdle was getting my Treo 650 to sync with
Outlook 2007. I finally got some time yesterday to figure that out so I
switched to Vista full time. I retired my main XP pc. It's been replaced
by a notebook running Vista Ultimate x64 RTM. My Vista test pc has been
formatted and Vista x86 RTM installed with a dual boot to Server 2003 for
testing server apps. So far I'm not regretting the decision to dump XP.
Time will tell I guess.
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Dark side means that you are evil... Evil people would not use vista because
it would make their dastardly deeds harder to accomplish.

If someone wants to be productive in the amount of evilness he/she produces,
should use XP. Can you imagine... Darth Vader... booting up vista...
ready to fire the death star... his black gloved finger closing on the red
boom button...

and a blue screen of doom emerges> Sorry your wireless deathstar drivers
are not compatible with vista..... its neeeeeverrr vistas fault.

Vista is stupid, not evil.
 
I too prefer OE6 to Windows Mail. I only use WM for newsgroups (same with
OE6 previously). I find WM a little slower, especially when the message
count gets a little high. I find I have to delete old messages from each
group on a more timely basis than I was used to with OE6. I am actually
having the opposite problem to you when entering a newsgroup. When I enter a
newsgroup the focus stays on the last message I was reading the previous
time I was in that group. I have to scroll up if there are more than a few
new messages. I would prefer it the way yours is working. There must be a
setting somewhere that changes this. I have the preview pane turned off so
maybe this is the difference. I expect WM will improve over time. It's only
a small annoyance so far. I was well aware of it before switching to Vista
full time.

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Kerry Brown
Microsoft MVP Windows - Shell/User
www.vistahelp.ca/phpBB2

Dave Patrick said:
I too moved to Vista and so far my greatest disappointment is Windows Mail.
The 'watched message' is very slow to respond or in some cases doesn't work
at all. I have the Tools|Options|General "Check for new" every 5 minutes
and Tools|Accounts|"account"|Include this account and mostly the group
doesn't turn red until I restart the application. Big bummer.

Also with OE6 when entering a newsgroup (via the folder list) the focus
stayed in the folders pane. With Windows Mail the focus goes to the first
unread message and automatically download it (preview pane is on in both
cases) Very confusing since I don't want any message marked as read unless
I have actually read it. No way to stop this short of turning off the
preview pane.

Performance for searching the 'sent items' (or other) folders has
decreased dramatically. This may be a result of the different data store
and I could live with this if the other two get fixed.


--

Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

Kerry Brown said:
My testing phase with Vista is over. I'm using it full time now. I only
have one install of XP left on an old laptop that can't run Vista. I keep
it around for guests to use so they don't mess up any of my regular
computers. Contrary to all the naysayers here I think Vista is ready for
the prime time. My last hurdle was getting my Treo 650 to sync with
Outlook 2007. I finally got some time yesterday to figure that out so I
switched to Vista full time. I retired my main XP pc. It's been replaced
by a notebook running Vista Ultimate x64 RTM. My Vista test pc has been
formatted and Vista x86 RTM installed with a dual boot to Server 2003 for
testing server apps. So far I'm not regretting the decision to dump XP.
Time will tell I guess.
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Actually I find learning new things keeps my brain active and healthy. It's
people who refuse to change that have atrophied brains.
 
Yes, that's the key difference as I mentioned. Unfortunately there's no
setting to change the behavior. It's been bugged by many but I wouldn't hold
much hope of it being changed anytime soon. I just don't like having to
toggle the preview pane on and off or having to double-click every message
in order to read it. These are just silly and unnecessary extra steps.
Apparently the developers don't use Windows Mail as a newsreader or just
don't use a newsreader at all.

I have the message pane sorted descending order (sent timestamp) with the
watched messages grouped and on top.

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Regards,

Dave Patrick ....Please no email replies - reply in newsgroup.
Microsoft Certified Professional
Microsoft MVP [Windows]
http://www.microsoft.com/protect

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setting somewhere that changes this. I have the preview pane turned off so
maybe this is the difference.
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I would prefer it the way yours is working
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My testing phase with Vista is over. I'm using it full time now. I only
have one install of XP left on an old laptop that can't run Vista. I keep
it around for guests to use so they don't mess up any of my regular
computers. Contrary to all the naysayers here I think Vista is ready for
the prime time. My last hurdle was getting my Treo 650 to sync with
Outlook 2007. I finally got some time yesterday to figure that out so I
switched to Vista full time. I retired my main XP pc. It's been replaced
by a notebook running Vista Ultimate x64 RTM. My Vista test pc has been
formatted and Vista x86 RTM installed with a dual boot to Server 2003 for
testing server apps. So far I'm not regretting the decision to dump XP.
Time will tell I guess.
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Welcome to the other side of the tracks...lol. I use Vista x86 RTM as my
main system now, in a dual boot with XP since there is no printer driver for
my NEC laser printer, and I know there won't be one. Legacy printers have
always been poorly supported in any OS upgrade. I'm lucky I got this one to
work in XP. The last driver for it was written for NT, but for some reason
works in XP.

The creative sound card driver for the Audigy family is not up to par yet.
Otherwise things are running well.
 
But people with atrophied brains get to meet new people everyday and are
allowed to hide their own Easter eggs. :)
 
Rock said:
Welcome to the other side of the tracks...lol. I use Vista x86 RTM as my
main system now, in a dual boot with XP since there is no printer driver
for my NEC laser printer, and I know there won't be one. Legacy printers
have always been poorly supported in any OS upgrade. I'm lucky I got this
one to work in XP. The last driver for it was written for NT, but for
some reason works in XP.

The creative sound card driver for the Audigy family is not up to par yet.
Otherwise things are running well.
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I find with many laser printers picking HP LaserJet Series will give you at
least minimal functionality. I have a very old IBM 4019 laser printer that
uses IBM specific printer codes by default. I think it actually emulates a
IBM dot matrix. I was surprised to find it works fine in both Vista x86 and
x64. I did set it for HP emulation and try it. That worked as well.
 
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