table style question, space before and after

[bmurphy]

Now that you've pointed it out, I see that the space before for the
"header row" is also inside the table as opposed to being before the
table.

Looks like Microsoft has some work to do for the next Service Pack.
These options would be very useful if they did what it seems they
should.

Brian

If I add Space After to a paragraph in a table, I get Space After that
paragraph (inside the table), but it would not make a difference if the row
height were set to an Exact amount (the vertical alignment of the cell
contents might make a difference, too).

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In my particular case (I'm using tables to handle equation captions)
my tables have no borders. When I set this option to any number of
points, no space is added anywhere that I can see, inside or outside
the table.

Do you get something different when you do this?

Brian

It should add the space after the paragraph, but it will likely still be
inside the table. This won't matter unless you're using borders, but if you
are, it won't be helpful.
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Do y'all agree that if you go Modify / Table Style/Last Row/Paragraph/
Space After that this should add the elusive space after a table?
I'm still hoping that if this is done in just the right way, it will
work.
Brian Murphy
Austin, Texas
Suzanne
I rarely leave empty paras the exceptions being similar - under ToCs and
under Tables. But I am looking into the latter at the moment.
Terry
message
When you add space below to that blank paragraph, you're adding it to
the
paragraph. If you have nonprinting characters displayed, this is very
evident. The paragraph alone, if left empty, creates space below the
table,
too, but I don't leave empty paragraphs anywhere except when
absolutely
necessary (as between a TOC and a section break or between TOCs).
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Suzanne
This is something I have always had a hard time getting my head
around. I
find that if there is a blank para following the table, I can select
the
table and use format, para to add space below to adjust the space
between
the table and following para. If there isn't a blank para, then
selecting
the table and adding Space Below adds the space to the table cells.
I'll
have to play with this some more but these results seem to contradict
the
formatting being held in the final cell marker. (Maybe this is only
true
if
there is nothing following the table other than the para mark?)
Terry
Are you sure about this, Terry? I thought the table attributes were
stored
in the end-of-table marker. The requirement for a normal text
paragraph
after a table at the end of a document is to store the *document*
(that
is,
section) formatting. I'm not sure what the required empty paragraph
after
a
table in the Header/Footer is supposed to for, though.
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If you don't put a 'blank paragraph' between the table and the
following
text paragraph, then the table attributes are stored with the
paragraph
mark
of the following text para. I never understood why this should be
so,
but
unfortunately, its the way it works. To get a blank paragraph
below
the
table, put the cursor at the beginning of the following text
paragraph
and
press enter. The new para mark then stores the table

attributes.

Terry
I can't seem to find a paragraph mark after a table (Word

2003).

Is there some trick to finding it?
At the end of the last row of the table I see only a little
square.
The very next line after the last row of the table is the first
line
of the next paragraph.
Brian

 

[Terry Farrell]

Suzanne

I've pulled up some old documents that I remember working the way I thought
and the reason is that the Table are not In Line but are floating in a frame
where they behave as though they are graphics. That explains why I could get
the space below to work: not at all what I thought!

Terry

When you add space below to that blank paragraph, you're adding it to the
paragraph. If you have nonprinting characters displayed, this is very
evident. The paragraph alone, if left empty, creates space below the
table,
too, but I don't leave empty paragraphs anywhere except when absolutely
necessary (as between a TOC and a section break or between TOCs).

--
Suzanne S. Barnhill
Microsoft MVP (Word)
Words into Type
Fairhope, Alabama USA

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Suzanne

This is something I have always had a hard time getting my head around. I
find that if there is a blank para following the table, I can select the
table and use format, para to add space below to adjust the space between
the table and following para. If there isn't a blank para, then selecting
the table and adding Space Below adds the space to the table cells. I'll
have to play with this some more but these results seem to contradict the
formatting being held in the final cell marker. (Maybe this is only true if
there is nothing following the table other than the para mark?)

Terry

 

[Suzanne S. Barnhill]

Ah, yes, that does make sense.

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Suzanne

I've pulled up some old documents that I remember working the way I thought
and the reason is that the Table are not In Line but are floating in a frame
where they behave as though they are graphics. That explains why I could get
the space below to work: not at all what I thought!

Terry