System resources - Alert ?

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dw said:
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Totally agree with everything said.
Not only do *.ini files get buried all over the place(and often not
deleted when you uninstall), but *.dll files get stored in the windows
system folder, and you NEVER know even on a controlled uninstall whether
to accept a deletion. Also very badly-behaved install programs will
overwrite a newer DLL with a crappy old one from their install set, and
now half your new software no longer works correctly, or crashes the
system. This is known as 'DLL HELL'

Programs should keep themselves to themselves, no DLLs or INIs outside
their folder, and Reg is forbidden !!!
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On a more serious note, I think a slight modification is needed to
allow for multiuser applications to also allow for a directory per
user. That makes write permissions and control much easier and in
some cases is much more appropriate. I'm also not as opposed as some
are to registry entries as long as they are restricted to one key.

BillR
 
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I'm also not as opposed as some
are to registry entries as long as they are restricted to one key.
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Besides the obvious, the main thing I don't like about "install" programs
is you have to shut down all your programs and processes before
installing. That's easy enough to do...just use End It All to close them
and Batchrun to reopen them...but my Dialup connection never works after
that. So I have to reboot!
 
dw said:
omega said:
ms<[email protected]>:
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Please let me know, Mike, if you ever come up with a word (a "ware-word"
perhaps) to describe programs that meet into this. Mainly,

1. No registry entries
2. No inis in the windir [*]
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http://tinyapps.org/faq.html
: The "Green Award" Green Award is awarded to software which:
:
: * does not require installation
: * does not write to the registry
: * does not create or modify files outside of its own directory

I think that's a good outline of the criteria.
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<snip>

Totally agree with everything said.
Not only do *.ini files get buried all over the place(and often not
deleted when you uninstall), but *.dll files get stored in the windows
system folder, and you NEVER know even on a controlled uninstall whether
to accept a deletion. Also very badly-behaved install programs will
overwrite a newer DLL with a crappy old one from their install set, and
now half your new software no longer works correctly, or crashes the
system. This is known as 'DLL HELL'

Programs should keep themselves to themselves, no DLLs or INIs outside
their folder, and Reg is forbidden !!!
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I second that.

Mike Sa
 
omega said:
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Agree. Plus I notice it's your kind of toy. Clean and self-contained.
Configurable, yet with......No Registry Dependency.

Please let me know, Mike, if you ever come up with a word (a "ware-word"
perhaps) to describe programs that meet into this. Mainly,

1. No registry entries
2. No inis in the windir [*]

[*] It might have been you (?) who said not minding the second part.
But for me, I mind; it forfeits the ease of the program's portability.

Oh, you know what. I've just loaded tinyapps.org, as I post. It seemed not
long ago that I decided they were too lax, about registry entries, for what
I had in mind. But now I see something I'd overlooked. Their "Green Award."

http://tinyapps.org/faq.html
: The "Green Award" Green Award is awarded to software which:
:
: * does not require installation
: * does not write to the registry
: * does not create or modify files outside of its own directory

I think that's a good outline of the criteria.

But back to wanting a word... "TinyAppsGreenAward" is not only too long;
it also is something more belonging to the person running that site.

I've hoped for a while that some nice short coinage would strike me. But
not the least luck yet. So if you ever get any ideas for that, I hope you
might drop 'em here.
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I like the Green Award definition.

But I stay out of the "naming" game, life is too short! Each person
downloads and uses what he wishes. I only dislike when someone lists
something that turns out to be time crippled, or nagware, or shareware
when I expect freeware. And those programs listed as "small", and it
turns out thats only the setup file for a big install.

Mike Sa
 
omega said:
Please let me know, Mike, if you ever come up with a word (a "ware-word"
perhaps) to describe programs that meet into this. Mainly,

1. No registry entries
2. No inis in the windir [*]

[*] It might have been you (?) who said not minding the second part.
But for me, I mind; it forfeits the ease of the program's portability.

Oh, you know what. I've just loaded tinyapps.org, as I post. It seemed not
long ago that I decided they were too lax, about registry entries, for what
I had in mind. But now I see something I'd overlooked. Their "Green Award."

http://tinyapps.org/faq.html
: The "Green Award" Green Award is awarded to software which:
:
: * does not require installation
: * does not write to the registry
: * does not create or modify files outside of its own directory

I think that's a good outline of the criteria.

But back to wanting a word... "TinyAppsGreenAward" is not only too long;
it also is something more belonging to the person running that site.

I've hoped for a while that some nice short coinage would strike me. But
not the least luck yet. So if you ever get any ideas for that, I hope you
might drop 'em here.
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Perhaps GoodNo-ware (the opposite of NoGood-ware). ;)

Susan
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