Symantec vs Hacktool.Flooder

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George said:

and? am i supposed to guess the context and meaning?

ok, my guess is some dumb isp actually hired you... frankly, i wouldn't
be surprised... hopefully you weren't trying to install your
mailbomb.exe on a machine that had access to the isp's entire bandwidth...
 
Have just downloaded this application, "Bulk E-Mailer"again and installed it
and executable is mailsend.exe not mailbomb.exe, this indicates definite
interference from an outside party on the "bulk-emailer 4.5" Installation
files..now tell me who could this be ?
 
i think we'll have to agree to disagree then...

I can live with that, even though I'm not sure that is what's
happening here.
it's obvious that i
have my biases and you have yours...

What's obvious is that I need to remove the x-no-archive when I post
to news.admin.net-abuse.email.... ;)
 
i have my doubts , very much that someone would create an application that
produces a Hacktool. The latest version does not even seem to have a trial
period, so its open to use as shareware. If this guy did it then there would
be no doubt as to who the perpetrator would be. If he is still the manager,
then something needs to be done about it, as all blame will point to him.
This is not a black and white matter , but we suffered a great deal in the
past
from such malicious treatment, from people who produced such tools against
us, you cannot expect us to forget it.

George


http://www.telkomsa.net (the friendly ISP)
 
I cant remeber where i downloaded this file from, but it was either from the
owners website or a large shareware site.

When i installed this application at the outset, NAV did not
pick up a Hacktool either during installation or after installation.
i have been using this applciation for sometime without NAV picking up
any Hacktools. The problem occured much later when i tried to open the
executable and NAV picked up that this had been transformed into a
Hacktool. Whether it is possible for an executable to transform itself
into a Hacktool, i do not know.

I then tried deleting the files and re-installing the application from
the Installation file (setup.exe), but was unable to do it. NAV kept
interrupting the installation process because it kept detecting that
the installer was trying to install a Hacktool.
 
I cant remeber where i downloaded this file from, but it was either from the
owners website or a large shareware site.

Okay, as long is wasn't a file sharing network. :)
When i installed this application at the outset, NAV did not
pick up a Hacktool either during installation or after installation.
i have been using this applciation for sometime without NAV picking up
any Hacktools. The problem occured much later when i tried to open the
executable and NAV picked up that this had been transformed into a
Hacktool. Whether it is possible for an executable to transform itself
into a Hacktool, i do not know.

More likely a new definition file is the cause of the new
identification.
I then tried deleting the files and re-installing the application from
the Installation file (setup.exe), but was unable to do it. NAV kept
interrupting the installation process because it kept detecting that
the installer was trying to install a Hacktool.

It's possible someone sabotaged the program before it was uploaded.
Disgruntled soon-to-be-ex-employees can do all kinds of nasty things.
Have you written to them and asked? Who knows, you might get an
answer that will clear up the whole mystery. In any case, assuming
Norton's ID was correct, that file wouldn't have done any harm to you,
and if the program had been mailbombing people, I would think you
would have heard.

The only real alarm I see with the mailer is that the default settings
have it claiming to be Outlook Express. While this is somewhat
understandable given the way they tell you to compose messages, it's
still a lie and shouldn't stand that way.

Carol
 
kurt wismer said:
there's a terminology problem here and it's causing a conceptual
misunderstanding...

viruses are the only things that can 'infect' good files... therefore
viruses are the only things you can removed from otherwise good files...

since hacktool.flooder isn't a virus, you cannot 'repair'/'disinfect'
it... the reason is because there's nothing to salvage, by definition...

Yeah, but the misnomer is due to Norton calling it a virus. Mine's
been doing the same thing. I use this email program all the time.
It's very handy and very powerful. I can see why spammers would use
it. But one of the recent Norton updates must have identified this as
something to be afraid of. I'm not afraid of it, so I went into
Norton and Excluded it, so now I don't have a problem. I'm allowed to
run mailbomb.exe as much as I want. Before, I had to disable Norton
to run it.
 
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