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1Enquiring The Below point made proves my point exactly
Vista only warns of there is no Third party anti virus installed "proving my
point that Vista has no ability to scan for viruses.
 
Distressed, concerned & demanding rectification - red shield in tray,
button to push to help user Find a program in security center malware
section. Network Access Protection, when implemented, likely to ban
access to company Intranet. FireWall2 notes that Microsoft says little
about viruses and does not realize that is because Microsoft isn't a
good AV provider - thinks instead that AV isn't needed. Think again.
 
PNutts,

thank you for your courteous response. at this moment can't determine for
how best responding to your findings and observations.

suggestion, with hyperbole, temporarily remove your valid historic
convictions.

1) continue reading the articles from Microsoft's BitLocker and Vista Teams,
and especially Jim Allchinn, as well as others technically discussing Vista's
designed inherent Security....

2) continue monitoring this Forum for Posts discussing how users experience
anguish and application conflicts while using third party applications.

3) never could you imagine the numbers of users that have long used Vista
Beta solo; absent those third party applications, and never experience
troubles or conflicts secondary to malware and/or viruses! the true reason
that troubles and conflicts do not occur is not from luck or accident
(specifically when using BitLocker).

4) you are a very intelligent person. the decision for using third party
applications is yours for the making.

5) as you, my time is somewhat limited and/or consumed, later will attempt
sharing more illumination through this Thread.

Again,Thank You,
 
Exactly my point he feels AV is adequately covered by Vista's security
features,and is telling people that they can fully reply on Vista's security
features to have AV covered and that it is not needed to install third party
AV apps.

That in my view is very bad advice, and it would be taking very big risks
for anyone to use Vista without an Anti Virus prog installed

I still don't even fully reply on Vista's security features I still run
"Adaware" and "spybotS&D" those two programs still find plenty of items that
Vista doesn't
 
will and/or paul,

will you re-read the below sentence that *you* and/or paul authored.

just in the event your mental debilities prevent you from locating your
previous sentence, just for you, below it's now duplicated. seriously ponder
your statement.
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"I think Vista's security features are excellent But Anti Virus is something
**that MSFT has **traditionally** stayed away from**, **It would *good* if
it in the *future* it became something built into Windows."** (emphasis added)
_ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ __ _ __ _ _ _ _ _ _ __

yes, yes, *traditionally* MSFT has indeed stayed away from...

now is the future for MSFT; and Vista's Ultimate Security.

would share the new encryption algorithms deployed by BDE and EFS; not
certain if you could comprehend. although, BDE and EFS are just a very small
portion of Vista's Ultimate Security.
 
And what is your point ?????

you still haven't shown me a URL where it states Vista has anti Virus
Functionality

And then you state this "
____________________________________________________________
now is the future for MSFT; and Vista's Ultimate Security.

would share the new encryption algorithms deployed by BDE and EFS; not
certain if you could comprehend. although, BDE and EFS are just a very small
portion of Vista's Ultimate Security.
________________________________________________________________
What the hell does BDE and EFS have to do with inbuilt antvirus ????? those
encryption algorithms are part of "Bitlocker" Bitlocker is drive encryption
it has absolutely nothing to do with Anti Virus you idiot !!!

Your not really the sharpest tool in the shed are you ?
 
Just yesterday I had Avast pick up a nasty in my email and delete the
attachment.

This guy is a jerk!

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
I don't mean to be demeaning - oh Hell, yes I do - you are a fool!

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Regards,

Richard Urban
Microsoft MVP Windows Shell/User
(For email, remove the obvious from my address)

Quote from George Ankner:
If you knew as much as you think you know,
You would realize that you don't know what you thought you knew!
 
I had a little problem with Avast yesterday which is all sorted out now, And
other than that Avast has been great for me.
I don't think I'll ever go back to using Nortons again
But according to this guy, He seems to think "Bitlocker", "Defender", "Uac"
etc... is the answer to everything and feels nothing in the way of third
party A/V progs are needed anymore.
 
We are in agreement. While I know a few people who claim
to operate without an AV in real-time/resident mode, I would
never suggest such a thing. I use NOD32, and I would highly
recommend it to anyone. Over the last week or so, the email
address I use for newsgroups and for registering at some sites,
has received several critters, one yesterday called "Fun.exe"
and "Video.exe. Fuclip.B worm and TrojanProxy.Lager.NAD
were the official names.
I was sort of surprised, dslr.net (broadbandreports.com/dslreports.com)
does an excellent job of tagging spam and any suspicious/infected
emails. The email used for newsgroups is just an alias of the main
account. I change the alias periodically.
Anyway, some of these critters have slipped through recently without
being tagged and NOD32 has caught all of them. More than likely I
would have never opened them anyway, and if I was going to, I would
do an on-demand scan with NOD32 and then ClamAV, just to be sure.
If I am not expecting an attachment and do not know the person, the
attachment gets deleted automatically. Especially, those that arrive
from my alias account.

I don't use Windows Defender in real-time protection mode, but I do
let it scan once a day, it never finds anything. The only other proactive
software I use is SpywareBlaster, been using that in XP for quite awhile, too.
Until I started using NOD32, I used to have Trend and TrojanHunter on
my XP machines.
I've known Magnus Mischel founder of TrojanHunter for a long time.
And would recommend his software, too. But, I don't believe he has
a Vista version ready. When I was trying to slim down my security,
I tested a few things against NOD32 and TrojanHunter to see if I
still needed a separate anti-trojan application. NOD32 caught whatever
I unleashed. So, that's what I depend on, and some common sense.

I believe it is foolish in today's environment to even think about operating
your computer without an AV.... just plain silly and stupid.

Now, UAC is another rant for me. But, I'll spare y'all. ;-)

-Michael
 
I have read the entire thread and have come to the conclusion that
1Enquiring, DMN doesn't know what a virus is and can't make the distinction
between malware, trojans etc. This argument can very easily be decided. Why
doesn't someone send 1Enquiring, DMN a really nasty virus and let's see what
happens.
 
Kathleen said:
I've upgraded to the 10.2.0.276 version of Symantec AV, which is what I
was
told to do so that I could finally run it, but now I can't enable
auto-protect. I'll turn it on and then it'll turn itself back off in about
5-10 seconds. Anyone know how to fix this?
Click to expand...

The free AVG 7.5 (free.grisoft.com) works in Vista for me. Norton is a
bunch of crap anyway.
 
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