Symantec AntiVirus

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I've upgraded to the 10.2.0.276 version of Symantec AV, which is what I was
told to do so that I could finally run it, but now I can't enable
auto-protect. I'll turn it on and then it'll turn itself back off in about
5-10 seconds. Anyone know how to fix this?
 
Kathleen,

seriously, the simplest method, remove the Symantec a/v from Vista Beta.

if not, continued troubles will remain causing you mental anguish and
possibly blaming Vista for the troubles caused by the Symantec a/v.

give Vista Beta a chance for self proving its incredible security, on-line
or off-line.
 
If I were I would try to reinstall it and see how you go with it

if it still keeps giving you trouble I would look around for another A/V
application there are many out there that will run just fine on vista
regardless of wether or not your running a Beta version of Vista or the RTM
version

but as 1Enquiring suggested I would not leave it up to vista's in built
security that is simply BAD advice seeing vista has no built in virus
detection ability
 
will,

please do not make post when you have absolutely NO knowledge of Vista's
self ability for providing the greatest self-defense of security Threats.

Symantec makes good products. the problem, "currently" they are not truly
certified compatible with Vista and cause so many needless conflict issues
for Vista.

take a few minutes and research the below URLs for learning what currently
you are not aware, please.

also, the below URLs are intended for getting you motivated for personally
researching Vista.

the below URLs are just a small portion of 200+ Microsoft Articles regarding
Vista, please do not limit your personal research to just the below URLs,
keep researching Vista for learning what remains for you learning.

additionally, scan the General Discussion Forum for locating the many Posts
inquiring and asking why does my third party a/v not work with Vista.


http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsvista/default.aspx
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsvista/aa905062.aspx
http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/default.aspx
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsvista/default.aspx
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsvista/aa905092.aspx
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/platform/hwsecurity/BitLockerTechOver.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/platform/hwsecurity/BitLockerTechOver.mspx
http://blogs.technet.com/bitlocker/
http://www.microsoft.com/security/windowsvista/allchin.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/forefront/clientsecurity/default.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/forefront/clientsecurity/default.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/newsroom/winxp/windowsprinciples.mspx
 
Kathleen,

Symantec makes good products. the problem, "currently" they are not truly
certified compatible with Vista and cause so many needless conflict issues
for Vista, as does the others similar to Symantec.

take a few minutes and research the below URLs for learning what currently
you are not aware, please.

also, the below URLs are intended for getting you motivated for personally
researching Vista.

the below URLs are just a small portion of 200+ Microsoft Articles regarding
Vista, please do not limit your personal research to just the below URLs,
keep researching Vista.

additionally, scan the General Discussion Forum for locating the many Posts
inquiring and asking why does my third party a/v Not work with Vista.


http://msdn2.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsvista/default.aspx
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsvista/aa905062.aspx
http://windowsvistablog.com/blogs/default.aspx
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsvista/default.aspx
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/windowsvista/aa905092.asp
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/platform/hwsecurity/BitLockerTechOver.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/system/platform/hwsecurity/BitLockerTechOver.mspx
http://blogs.technet.com/bitlocker/
http://www.microsoft.com/security/windowsvista/allchin.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/forefront/clientsecurity/default.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/forefront/clientsecurity/default.mspx
http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/newsroom/winxp/windowsprinciples.mspx
 
1Enquiring you miss the whole point you speak of Vista's security features
that isn't the same as Virus protection
Vista has no inbuilt virus protection at all
Sure defender will stop Trojans and other Malware and Uac will stop unwanted
programs from installing

But that does not change the fact that Vista has no inbuilt Virus protection
a third party Anti Virus application will always be needed.

If you feel your safe from Viruses by only relying on Vista's security
features then thats up to you but don't tell people here that they will be
protected from viruses by relying on Vista's security features alone

your post leads me to believe your trying to get trolls to bite
 
1Enquiring none of those URLS you have listed relate to Virus protection at
all, They all relate to security
Security and Virus protection are two very different issues

Virus protection keeps your system free of Viruses
Security features limit the damage to an already infected system and guard
against Trojans, Spyware, Adware, and other types of security threats.
 
will,

there is no possible way that you could have fully researched *all* the
provided URLs during the last few moments.

please, for your benefit, research not only the previously provided URLs,
research the additional 200+ Vista related Articles provided by Microsoft.

then, if you desire debating the designers and developers of Vista using
personal dogmatic values, have at it...

it's your decision, learn Vista's Security Features, or merely be dogmatic.

for you benefit, below is a current (copy-and-paste) Post by another
experienced Vista user.

********************
 
Here is my point

for you benefit, below is a current (copy-and-paste) Post by another
experienced Vista user.

********************
Troy said:
all of these bloated "internet security" suites are not necessary anymore.
people are still using them because theyre simply used to them. the
drivers
they install will slow you down and be a performance hit in the long run.
use the builtin tools that come with Vista
Click to expand...

In the above item you pasted it relates to "Bloated internet security
suites" The original question in this thread related to "Anti Virus"
Since when has "bitlocker" "defender" "Uac" become a replacement for an Anti
Virus Program ?
If your talking about Bloated programs like Norton's internet security I
fully agree with you Vista has most of those componenmts built in thuse
there is no need for internet security suites.
However Vista has no inbuilt Anti Virus even if there's no need for an all
in one third party application there will always be a need for a good third
party A/V program

And it's very foolish to suggest to anyone that Vista has Anti virus covered
and that people will be protected against Viruses by Vista's security
features.

You have given me 200+ articles all relating to security
But I challenge you to show me one article that suggests Vista has a Virus
scanning ability
 
Two questions: What version of Vista are you running? Also, when you say you
upgraded to 10.2 of SAV, did you upgrade from another earlier version of SAV
or did you install 10.2 with no other version of SAV already installed? 10.2
does not support upgrading from any previous version of SAV... It must be a
clean install by removing the previous version of SAV first.

Keep in mind that the responses in this public newsgroup may or may not be
technically accurate and are simply opinions (mine included). :) As stated by
Symantec, 10.2 is compatible with Vista and they do provide a list of known
issues in the README file.
 
Microsoft's Vista site (as well at least one of the links you posted)
recommend the use of a third party or Microsoft anti-virus solution.
Recommending in a public forum to not utilize additional security features
without knowing the specifics of their system or usage is at best
disingenuous and at worse irresponsible.
 
will,

within one of the previously provided URLs you can find the below (in part)
quotation:

"For Windows Vista security our goals are simple:"

"Maintain a PC that is protected from malware such as **viruses**, spyware,
worms, and other potentially unwanted software" (emphasis added)

"Provide safer online experiences at home and at work"

"Gain an understanding of when a PC is unsafe, and know how to help make it
safe again"

considering your less than "douche bag" ignorance (by the way a douche bag
can be beneficial) but not in your case, by repeatedly demonstrating such
inconceivable low levels of lack of knowledge regarding the built-in Security
provided by Windows Vista.

should you have the mental ability for recognizing that one of the above
sentences includes the word "viruses".

if you are too lazy for performing personal research, perpetually you will
remain bad-mannered, ill-bred, uninformed, and uneducated regarding Windows
Vista while recklessly assigning blame to others while making hostile
intentionally harassing Post to the sincere users of these Forums.

bring joy to these Forums by becoming self-educated with Windows Vista, or,
forever leave these Forums; either scenario will greatly benefit these Forums
and your self!

it's more than obvious that you are over-filled with self-grandeur and
self-delusions.

considering your obvious helpless situation, the URLs remain attached.
 
Well you still haven't shown one single URL that in details shows how
Windows scans for viruses.
And you will not be able to show me such a URL because Vista has no ability
to scan for Viruses (Except for live onecare but that is also a third party
app and not built in)

Vista's inbuilt security features can protect you from the damage Viruses
can cause but it is by no means to be considered the frontline protection
against viruses because Vista has no inbuilt Virus scanning engine.

You may call me less than a douchebag but thats simply a reflection of the
fact that you are incapable holding an intellegent conversation, and the
fact that you miserably fail to prove a simple point.

Prove me wrong ! and show me a URL that shows Vista has a Virus scanning
ability

This is a Quote from one of the links you posted

"Microsoft's Vista site (as well at least one of the links you posted)
recommend the use of a third party or Microsoft anti-virus solution.
Recommending in a public forum to not utilize additional security features
without knowing the specifics of their system or usage is at best
disingenuous and at worse irresponsible."
 
Will:
I think that you are getting the idea that you're not being listened
to. Unfortunately this is the third name he/she has used and it still hasn't
hit home that with all the new security in Vista an AV program is still
needed. I just hope that someone doesn't take him/her seriously and place
their system in jeopardy due to misinformation. Have a great day.
 
PNutts,

respectfully, will you please re-read the article that you referenced?

within the previously provided URLs, nowhere does Microsoft "recommended"
using third party a/v.

instead, Microsoft reports they (Microsoft) allowed certified third party
vendors controlled authority for implementing their OEM applications within
vista.

additionally, Microsoft clearly states (and fully discusses technical
reasons why) the third party applications will *not* harm Vista Beta. so, if
it does not harm Vista, and users complain of experiencing enormous conflicts
using those third party applications; does the third party applications
benefit Vista Beta?

clearly, Microsoft repeatedly states that -users are welcome- to use any
third party application of the users choice. great difference between welcome
and recommend.

below is a quotation (in part) from one of the provided URLs, please locate
the word "viruses" for its proper sentence interpretation.

- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
- - - - - -
"For Windows Vista security our goals are simple:"

"Maintain a PC that is protected from malware such as **viruses**, spyware,
worms, and other potentially unwanted software" (emphasis added)

"Provide safer online experiences at home and at work"

"Gain an understanding of when a PC is unsafe, and know how to help make it
safe again"
- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

PNutts

Thank you for your courteous response,
 
I think we're dealing with a 14 year old kid with too much time on His/ Her
hands

I think Vista's security features are excellent But Anti Virus is something
that MSFT has traditionally stayed away from, It would good if it in the
future it became something built into Windows.

But I believe we're a long way off seeing an all in one solution within
Windows that the public and corporate sector will put all their trust in.

Just my 2 cents worth
 
Thank you for the reply.

At the URL:

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsvista/features/foreveryone/security.mspx

the article does reference the points you've made:

* Automatic Updates and Windows Security Center can help you keep your PC up
to date with the latest security patches, and also alert you when your PC
needs to install an update.
* Windows Vista firewall helps protect you from hackers, viruses, and worms
that try to reach your computer over the Internet.
* Windows Defender helps protect you against spyware and other potentially
unwanted software.
* And the Malicious Software Removal Tool (MSRT), delivered through
Automatic Updates, periodically scans your PC looking for known prevalent
viruses.

However, the article goes on to state:

"In addition to using these built-in Windows Vista features, you should help
keep your computer healthy by using antivirus software such as Windows
OneCare or an antivirus solution from one of Microsoft's partners. Whichever
option you choose, remember to update your antivirus software regularly.
These updates are generally available through a subscription from your
antivirus vendor.

Together, these tools can help you protect your PC from malicious software."

If the conflict with other posters is in regard to the Malicious Software
Removal Tool (MSRT), it will certainly protect Vista by periodically cleaning
post-infection. However, according to the white paper titled "Windows
Malicious Software Removal Tool: Progress Made, Trends Observed", the
Microsoft Antimalware Team notes that this tool does not have real-time
capabilities to prevent an infection. Download at:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...A9-645D-4495-9EDA-92CDE33E99A9&displaylang=en

To be honest, I would like to see that Vista is so hardened that further
protection is not necessary. Would you mind posting a direct link to this
information or mentioning which link you've already posted makes that
reference? I don't mean to be lazy but with family and work demands my time
to research is quite limited. I will start going through more of your links.

I believe I also misspoke in my response to you. From one of your references
I followed a link back to the Security Center and then drilled down, so the
information wasn't in your reference. This may be a stretch, but at the link
below (Protect your computer in 4 steps) they mention anti-virus software in
step 3. There are Vista links on this page so I assume the information is
applicable to Vista.

http://www.microsoft.com/athome/security/computer/default.mspx
 
Michael,

you are correct, visual alarm notification, and not distressed or concerned,
wishfully you understand why.

Thank you for your response,
 
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