So many problems with XP

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Keith

Is it possible to run both Windows XP and Windows 98 on my
computer? My computer was working perfectly on Windows 98
until I upgraded to XP and now I have a host of problems.
Can I reinstall and use 98 while I get my XP problems
sorted out? ...and how do I do this? Please help.

Thanks,
Keith.
 
Did you bother to run the "upgrade advisor program
(hardware/software compatibility test)" before you ran the
install?

Does your system meet at least the minimum requirements for
XP?

If it was working "perfectly" why did you upgrade?


| Is it possible to run both Windows XP and Windows 98 on my
| computer? My computer was working perfectly on Windows 98
| until I upgraded to XP and now I have a host of problems.
| Can I reinstall and use 98 while I get my XP problems
| sorted out? ...and how do I do this? Please help.
|
| Thanks,
| Keith.
 
Hi, Keith.

Did you really "upgrade" from Win98 to WinXP, or did you "clean install"
WinXP? There are basically 3 ways to transition from Win98 to WinXP:

1. Upgrade - WinXP Setup attempts to migrate your device drivers and
installed applications to WinXP - with results ranging from perfect to
unsatisfactory. If you answer Yes at the right time during Setup, it will
preserve your Win98 files and later offer you the option to revert to Win98.
If you didn't answer Yes, then your copy of Win98 is gone and
re-installation will have to begin again from the CD-ROM.

2. Clean install - Boot from the WinXP CD-ROM and let it reformat your HD
and install WinXP. You must backup your data beforehand. After WinXP is
installed, you must reinstall all your applications from their original
media and restore your data.

3. Dual boot - Install WinXP into a separate partition from Win98. WinXP
Setup will detect that Win98 is already installed and will create the
dual-boot system. Each time you reboot, you must choose from a menu whether
to boot Win98 or WinXP. You must reinstall your applications in WinXP, even
if you use the same program files as Win98, so that the application's setup
can write the proper entries into the WinXP Registry.

Method 1 is the quickest and easiest in the short run, and many users are
quite happy with it. Many others, though, have reported that they had so
many niggling problems that they later reformatted and did a clean install,
anyhow. Another advantage of the clean install is that you get a chance to
clean out all the accumulated garbage on your hard drive that you had been
meaning to dump and never got around to doing.

The dual boot is especially useful if you have trouble finding WinXP device
drivers for all your hardware, or if your applications are not compatible
with WinXP. Only very old, very new and some out-of-the-mainstream
applications and hardware are still incompatible. Dual booting for a few
months should give you plenty of time to find and install compatible
versions. After that, Win98 can be deleted to reclaim the disk space it
uses.

The golden rule for dual booting is to install the newest Windows LAST.
WinXP knows how to handle Win98, but Win98 never heard of WinXP. You can
still add Win98 to an existing WinXP (so long as you have or can create a
separate partition to hold it), but this will make your computer unable to
boot into WinXP until you boot from the WinXP CD-ROM again and use the
Recovery Console to Repair the startup environment. See MVP Doug Knox's
page for details on adding Win98 to WinXP:
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_repair_9x.htm

RC
 
Jim Macklin, this is no place for sarcasm. I upgraded
from 98 to XP because I also intend to install Dreamweaver
which will not run on Windows 98.
 
Yes, I'm doing just that.
Win98Se + XP Pro.
You'll need to partition the drive of course, and W98 _MUST_ be loaded
_BEFORE_ XP.
 
Greetings --

Jim wasn't being sarcastic. He asked perfectly valid questions,
from a technical point of view. The two most important questions, I
might point out, you have still failed to answer.

Have you made sure that your PC's hardware components are capable
of supporting WinXP? This information will be found at the PC's
manufacturer's web site, and on Microsoft's Windows Catalog:
(http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/hcl/default.mspx) Additionally, run
Microsoft WinXP Upgrade Advisor to see if you have any incompatible
hardware components or applications.

You should, before proceeding, take a few minutes to ensure that
there are WinXP device drivers available for all of the machine's
components. There may not be, if the PC was specifically designed for
Win98/Me. Also bear in mind that PCs designed for, sold and run fine
with Win9x/Me very often do not meet WinXP's much more stringent
hardware quality requirements. This is particularly true of many
models in Compaq's consumer-class Presario product line or HP's
consumer-class Pavilion product line. WinXP, like WinNT and Win2K
before it, is quite sensitive to borderline defective or substandard
hardware (particularly motherboards, RAM and hard drives) that will
still support Win9x.

HOW TO Prepare to Upgrade Win98 or WinMe
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q316639

Upgrading to Windows XP
http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpupgrad.htm


Bruce Chambers
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Thanks Bruce.

message | Greetings --
|
| Jim wasn't being sarcastic. He asked perfectly valid
questions,
| from a technical point of view. The two most important
questions, I
| might point out, you have still failed to answer.
|
| Have you made sure that your PC's hardware components
are capable
| of supporting WinXP? This information will be found at
the PC's
| manufacturer's web site, and on Microsoft's Windows
Catalog:
| (http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/hcl/default.mspx)
Additionally, run
| Microsoft WinXP Upgrade Advisor to see if you have any
incompatible
| hardware components or applications.
|
| You should, before proceeding, take a few minutes to
ensure that
| there are WinXP device drivers available for all of the
machine's
| components. There may not be, if the PC was specifically
designed for
| Win98/Me. Also bear in mind that PCs designed for, sold
and run fine
| with Win9x/Me very often do not meet WinXP's much more
stringent
| hardware quality requirements. This is particularly true
of many
| models in Compaq's consumer-class Presario product line or
HP's
| consumer-class Pavilion product line. WinXP, like WinNT
and Win2K
| before it, is quite sensitive to borderline defective or
substandard
| hardware (particularly motherboards, RAM and hard drives)
that will
| still support Win9x.
|
| HOW TO Prepare to Upgrade Win98 or WinMe
|
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;Q316639
|
| Upgrading to Windows XP
| http://aumha.org/win5/a/xpupgrad.htm
|
|
| Bruce Chambers
| --
| Help us help you:
|
|
|
| You can have peace. Or you can have freedom. Don't ever
count on
| having both at once. -- RAH
|
| | > Jim Macklin, this is no place for sarcasm. I upgraded
| > from 98 to XP because I also intend to install
Dreamweaver
| > which will not run on Windows 98.
| >>-----Original Message-----
| >>Did you bother to run the "upgrade advisor program
| >>(hardware/software compatibility test)" before you ran
the
| >>install?
| >>
| >>Does your system meet at least the minimum requirements
| > for
| >>XP?
| >>
| >>If it was working "perfectly" why did you upgrade?
| >>
| >>
| >>| >>| Is it possible to run both Windows XP and Windows 98
on
| > my
| >>| computer? My computer was working perfectly on
Windows
| > 98
| >>| until I upgraded to XP and now I have a host of
| > problems.
| >>| Can I reinstall and use 98 while I get my XP problems
| >>| sorted out? ...and how do I do this? Please help.
| >>|
| >>| Thanks,
| >>| Keith.
| >>
| >>
| >>.
| >>
|
|
 
To dual-boot, Windows 98 has to be installed BEFORE Windows XP is installed

* CAUTION: back up all of your data files, as they will go away forever*

1. Boot from a Windows 98 floppy disk.
2. Partition the drive into two partitions, "C" and "D"
3. Format the "C" partition
4. Install Windows 98 into the "C" partition
5. Reboot your computer and enter the BIOS setup
6. Set your BIOS to boot from CD drive
7. Put your Windows XP CD into the CD drive
8. Reboot your computer. Select "Boot from CD"
9. Install WinXP to Drive "D". Accept the option (required) to format
drive "D"
10. Good luck

steve



Can you give me the exact steps to install and run Windows
98 + XP together? I already have XP installed. What
should I do? Email me directly: (e-mail address removed)

Thanks,
Keith.

http://www.inmate-connection.com/
 
Jim's comments were very appropriate. If you don't do your homework - you
screw up! Would you install a bigger engine in a car before doing the
necessary research? I wouldn't!

--
Regards:

Richard Urban

aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)
 
Thanks, btw, to the OP Dreamweaver is a great program and a
good reason to upgrade.


in message | Jim's comments were very appropriate. If you don't do your
homework - you
| screw up! Would you install a bigger engine in a car
before doing the
| necessary research? I wouldn't!
|
| --
| Regards:
|
| Richard Urban
|
| aka Crusty (-: Old B@stard :-)
|
| | > Jim Macklin, this is no place for sarcasm. I upgraded
| > from 98 to XP because I also intend to install
Dreamweaver
| > which will not run on Windows 98.
| > >-----Original Message-----
| > >Did you bother to run the "upgrade advisor program
| > >(hardware/software compatibility test)" before you ran
the
| > >install?
| > >
| > >Does your system meet at least the minimum requirements
| > for
| > >XP?
| > >
| > >If it was working "perfectly" why did you upgrade?
| > >
| > >
| > >| > >| Is it possible to run both Windows XP and Windows 98
on
| > my
| > >| computer? My computer was working perfectly on
Windows
| > 98
| > >| until I upgraded to XP and now I have a host of
| > problems.
| > >| Can I reinstall and use 98 while I get my XP problems
| > >| sorted out? ...and how do I do this? Please help.
| > >|
| > >| Thanks,
| > >| Keith.
| > >
| > >
| > >.
| > >
|
|
 
"Keith" said in news:[email protected]:
Is it possible to run both Windows XP and Windows 98 on my
computer? My computer was working perfectly on Windows 98
until I upgraded to XP and now I have a host of problems.
Can I reinstall and use 98 while I get my XP problems
sorted out? ...and how do I do this? Please help.

Thanks,
Keith.

You can use dual booting but I believe Microsoft says you need to
install Windows 98 before Windows 2000/XP (I'd have to do a search at
http://support.microsoft.com but you could do that yourself). My guess
is that you laid Windows XP atop of Windows 98 so you would have to
install Windows 98 *after* the Windows XP install, and that might cause
problems. I personally dislike dual-booting (which can actually have
more than just 2 targets for operating systems to load) because of the
lack of isolation between them.

You could get PartitionMagic to resize the partition for Windows XP and
create a primary FAT32 partition in which to install Windows 98. Then
use BootMagic that comes with PartitionMagic to multi-boot between the
operating systems. The key would be to create the primary partition,
format as FAT32, and simply mark that partition as the active one so it
becomes the active partition on the next reboot. Then have your
bootable floppy and Windows 98 CD handy, reboot with the bootable
floppy, and install on the currently active C: drive.

So the short answer is: Yes, you can have multiple operating systems in
your computer and multi-boot between them. There are multiple ways of
accomplishing that.
 
"joust in jest" said in news:Of%[email protected]:
To dual-boot, Windows 98 has to be installed BEFORE Windows XP is
installed
<snip>

Only if you have been droned into believing Microsoft's proposal of
using dual booting. I have installed Windows 9x/ME after an install of
Windows 2000/XP but you need to be careful. I never use Microsoft's
pollutive and non-isolative dual-boot method. Instead I use
multi-booting using some boot manager that replaces the bootstrap
program in the MBR (master boot record, sector 0 on the first detected
physical hard drive). I happen to use BootMagic but there are others.
The key is to create a primary partition (where you will install Windows
98), mark it as the active primary partition, and reboot using a
bootable floppy (that includes CD-ROM support so you can read the
Windows 98 install CD) whereupon the new partition becomes the active
one (i.e., it is now your C: drive). After installing Windows 98,
install PartitionMagic and include its BootMagic. Bootmagic will
replace the MBR bootstrap program (that Windows 98 overwrites atop the
standard [WinNT] bootstrap program and why Microsoft's dual-boot gets
screwed over by installing Windows 9x/ME after Windows 2000/XP). Once
you get Windows 98 installed and install BootMagic, be sure to have it
make a recover floppy for BootMagic in case something else overwrites
the MBR bootstrap program, like another OS install, GoBack, or whatever.

Only if you use Microsoft's dual-boot method is the order of OS install
significant (because the later OS install might step on the MBR
bootstrap program). If you multi-boot, install them in any order you
want.

One additional caution is the boot.ini file can get out of sync
depending on how you create new partitions on your hard drive. If the
Windows XP is in a primary partition, creating a new primary partition
in front of it will change the partition numbering so boot.ini won't be
pointing at the correct partition to find Windows XP to load it. There
are utilities to fix the boot.ini and even let you read it from an NTFS
partition so you can edit it while on an OS using FAT and then write it
back to the NTFS partition. To avoid that problem in the first place,
reduce the size of the first primary partition (with Windows XP) at its
end and create the new primary partition at the end of the drive. You
may get a warning that an OS beyond the 1024 cylinder boundary might not
be bootable but: (1) LBA mode in the BIOS changes the geometry so that
there are only 1024 "logical" cylinders across the drive; and, (2)
BootMagic's bootstrap program can handle it.

As always, ALWAYS backup your data before attempting to perform surgery
on your computer.
 
Greetings --

It's possible, provided that the primary active partition (the C:
drive, in simple terms) is formatted in the FAT32 file system. MS-MVP
Doug Knox has kindly provided clear instructions:

Install Windows 98 after XP is Installed.
http://www.dougknox.com/xp/tips/xp_repair_9x.htm


Bruce Chambers

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Can you give me the exact steps to install and run Windows
98 + XP together? I already have XP installed. What
should I do? Email me directly: (e-mail address removed)

Thanks,
Keith.

http://www.inmate-connection.com/
 
Yes, I'm doing just that.
Win98Se + XP Pro.
You'll need to partition the drive of course,

True - and C: must be FATxx
and W98 _MUST_ be loaded _BEFORE_ XP.

True, though if you get that wrong, you can fix it later without
having to nuke the XP and start over.

You can also drop XP's dual boot management and use a third-party boot
manager instead. The pros and cons of this:
- 3rd-party requires two primary partitions, not primary + extended
- 3rd-party can hide the inactive primary from the other OS
- XP primary can be NTFS, as Win9x doesn't need a footprint there
- can (re-)install XP and Win9x in any order you like
- but you depend on the survival of the 3rd-party boot manager


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Trsut me, I won't make a mistake!
 
Can you give me the exact steps to install and run Windows
98 + XP together? I already have XP installed. What
should I do? Email me directly: (e-mail address removed)

Ohhh boy, this again.

First, I'd get BING (Boot It New Generation) from www.bootitng.com,
which is free for 30 days and at about $30, waaay better value than
Symantec/PowerQuest's Partition Manager.

Then I'd back up my data etc. and prepare to do some hairy stuff that
must NOT be interrupted (e.g. bad time to try out your new used power
drill on the same mains strip, to see if it dried out after being left
in the rain). BING won't screw up if it completes what it starts
doing, but Bill help you if the process gets rebooted halfway through!

Also, before doing BINGery, I'd check the file system and do a defrag.

Make the BING boot diskette, and boot off it. It will ask if you want
to install it as the boot manager. If your XP is installed on NTFS
(yet another downside...) then you have to say Yes, because the Win9x
cannot even start to boot from an NTFS C: and you are now obliged to
use the 3rd-party, dual primary partition approach.

If you don't ant to use BING as partition manager and have thus
clicked Cancel, BING goes into Partition Maintenance mode. Else you'd
say No to "do you need > 4 partitions?" and end up in the same place!

Here, you first resize the existing primary to a smaller size, that
you will use to create your extended or primary (or primary +
extended) partitions.

Next, you need to decide whether you want XP to handle the dual boot
process, or have a 3rd party such as BING do it instead. With XP
installed on a FATxx primary, you can choose either way.


If you choose to have XP manage the dual boot...

Use BING to create an extended partition that fills the entire free
remaining space. On this, create one or more FATxx logical volumes.
As virtual memory paging works best with 4k clusters, I'd choose a
volume no larger than 8181M (just under 8G binary) for the Win9x
installation, and the rest can be for data.

Avoid FAT16 volumes larger than 2047M, as these aren't supported in
Win9x and will have terribly huge 64k clusters.

When you create these volumes, BING will ask if you intend converting
to NTFS. Don't panic; say Yes even if you don't intend to. All that
then happens is that BING aligns the volumes so that should they later
be converted to NTFS, you won't have the dreaded 512-byte clusters!

Next, to install the Win9x. First, "check your rock":
- bootable correct-version Win9x diskette
- working CD-ROM access from this diskette
- working Win9x and driver installation disks
- XP CD can boot into Recovery Console
- you can log into your XP installation from Recovery Console

ALL of the above are crucial! Now, boot that diskette and look at
your partitions. You should see XP on C:, and see the expected free
space in D: (and other volumes if created).

Next, install the Win9x in Custom mode. It's absolutely CRUCIAL you
override the duhfault C:\WINDOWS location to anything you like, as
long as it is NOT on C: (e.g. D:\WIN98SE is fine) and as long as the
directory name is valid as 8.3; no spaces, less than 8 characters etc.

At this point, you'll be thrilled to see the Win9x working, and using
D: for everything other than a handfull of loose files on C:\ (IO.SYS,
MSDOS.SYS, Command.com, D??SPACE.*, SYSTEM.1ST, and a few log files).
But you'll be wondering if you'll ever boot into XP again :-)

This is where you boot into the XP CD's Recovery CD and log into the
XP installation that's still on C:. From there, you enter the FixBoot
command, which will rebuild a new Boot.ini so that NTLDR can offer you
a choice of XP or the Win9x at boot time.

Without a working Recovery Console, you'd have to do a spot of
tap-dancing using raw sector editing tools. Ask if you need this.

Final step: Make sure XP does not process Config.sys and Autoexec.bat
at boot time - because these will point inappropriately to the Win9x.


If you choose (or are forced) to have 3rd-party boot management...

Use the boot manager to boot into XP, make sure that works. Then,
"check your rock" before installing the Win9x:
- bootable correct-version Win9x diskette
- working CD-ROM access from this diskette
- working Win9x and driver installation disks
- boot manager can select either primary as boot target
- you can haie the inactive primary partition

Next, set the empty primary as the active partition, and at this point
I'd hide the primary that XP is installed on. Boot that Win9x
diskette and look at what you see as C: - it should NOT contain the XP
installation. Note which drive letter does contain the XP
installation (should be none, if it's hidden) and then install Win9x
wherever you like - as long as it isn't the same drive letter as XP.

Once done, test that the boot manager can see and boot both OSs, and
that these OSs are not tripping over each other.


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Drugs are usually safe. Inject? (Y/n)
 
Can you give me the exact steps to install and run Windows
98 + XP together? I already have XP installed. What
should I do? Email me directly: (e-mail address removed)

See "Definitive guide to dual booting? (was - Re: So many problems
with XP)" which is a renamed subject line that hopefully will still
thread here so you can see it.

I don't like emailing copies of posts, for these reasons:
- if you post to an ng, be prepared to *read* that ng
- I'd have to un-mung my email addy, and I don't need the spam
- others may want to watch the replies
- you could get mauled by a private reply

The last hasn't been raised. Let's say I send you dangerous advice,
or worse, send you a lethal attachment that I say will fix your
problem. With a private reply, there's no peer review.

Do you trust me that much? I wouldn't :-)


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Trsut me, I won't make a mistake!
 
If the original poster has XP already installed, then that's a bad sign.

Have 2 partitions, load 98 first, then load XP after on second partition.
 
"cquirke (MVP Win9x)" said in
First, I'd get BING (Boot It New Generation) from www.bootitng.com,
which is free for 30 days and at about $30, waaay better value than
Symantec/PowerQuest's Partition Manager.

Okay, went to http://www.bootitng.com/bootitng.html but don't see a lot
to pull me to another utility that implements 90% or more of the same
features.

Windows XP/2003 Compatible!
- Same for PartitionMagic 8.

IEEE1394/USB 2.0 high speed support for imaging/partitioning.
- This must refer to imaging from DOS (in which they provide USB
drivers) since any USB-attached drive should be reachable if you're
doing this from inside Windows.

support for large hard drives (2 TB) and partitions (1-2 TB).

non-destructive resizing and conversion for FAT/FAT32.
- Only if you are also moving the contents of one partition to another;
read from one, write while converting to the other. Obviously if you
are converting NTFS to FAT32 within the same partition, it must be
destructive. You get the choice of one file system, not two of them
somehow overlapped.

non-destructive resizing for NTFS.
- Same for PartitionMagic if and only if you move the tail end boundary
of the partition. If you move the front end, which is possible in
PartitionMagic (don't know about BING), a feature they didn't have for a
long time until the last one or two versions, then again it must be
destructive because you are moving sectors within the same area of the
disk.

creation and (secure) deletion of partitions/volumes.
- Same for PartitionMagic. I assume secure deletion simply means wiping
the sectors of any data using standard schemes to run through various
patterns. Since there are freebie utilities, like Eraser that will wipe
files and unused disk space, it wouldn't matter if this were missing
from PartitionMagic. However, in PartitionMagic 8, you can Delete or
you can Delete and Secure Erase.

undelete partitions/volumes.
- That's really just defining a partition using the same boundaries as
before. I'd have to do the research again but basically you look for
the sector that used to be sector 0 that had the special attribute byte
values used for boot sectors. There's probably a lot more to it, but
PartitionMagic 8 also has Undelete Partition.

FAT/FAT32 formatting
- Nothing new. PartitionMagic has had this ever since VFAT came out.

copying and moving of partitions/volumes.
- Same for PartitionMagic.

support for Linux Ext2/Ext3 and ReiserFS file systems.
- This means you are switching from a physical copy, move, delete, or
whatever of a partition to a logical read of the partition (i.e.,
reading the files) and then laying them down atop another file system
(may be the same or different). This is how Norton's Ghost runs by
default, a logical read of files. Has lots of problems. Under Windows
NT/2000/XP, you can't restore EFS-protected files because you cannot
open them to read them. That's why you do a physical image by sector.
When modifying partitions physically, it doesn't matter what file system
is used (as long as the partition is larger than the highest sector used
to allocate to a file in that file system).

Imaging (including directly to CD-R/RW or DVD+R+RW-R-RW)
- Nope, PartitionMagic doesn't have that. That's their separate
DriveImage product (i.e., more bucks). However, if this imaging is
logical (as is Ghost by default), screw that since it incurs lots of
problems. It had better do a physical disk image. It would also be
nice if it skipped (but recorded) empty/unused sectors as does
DriveImage (Ghost, when switched into physical disk image mode, records
all sectors, even the unused ones, so you end up with a huge image file
full of empty sector information).

booting any partition on any hard drive
- Same for PartitionMagic - because it comes bundled with BootMagic.
Once you replace the bootstrap program in the MBR, you can do a lot more
than the standard one. There is limited space in sector 0 for the MBR
(and even less for the bootstrap program since the partition table is
part of the MBR). So usually they have enough intelligence to know
where to find the rest of their program and run it from there. This
incurs a limitation in BootMagic in that the remainder of its files must
be in a FAT partition (which must also be one the first hard drive since
the partition table in the MBR in sector 0 of the first physically
detected hard drive can only point to partitions on that same hard
disk). I suppose you could chain bootstrap programs in the MBRs across
hard disk if you didn't care about stability.

booting from the CD ROM drive
- PartitionMagic does that, too. DriveImage does, too.

booting multiple operating systems from a single partition.
- That's new? The boot managers replace the bootstrap program in the
MBR. It loads its program in whatever partition it got installed. It
then is no longer limited to booting using only the partitions in the
partition table in the MBR of the first detected physical hard drive
(which is all that the BIOS bootstrap program can reach). It can then
access any partition on any drive. I've been able to do that with
PartitionMagic many versions ago for many years.

create over 200 primary partitions (if desired).
- Again, once you load a boot manager, it takes over control of the
bootstrap program in the MBR. The partition table in the MBR only has
four entries, but that doesn't stop your boot manager from loading its
program in the boostrap area of the MBR, using the standard 4-entry
partition table in the MBR to find the rest of its files, and then
having a separate proprietary partition table that it then manages.

user id and password protection.
- Same for BootMagic that comes with PartitionMagic. It has the
password protection. I don't know what is meant by a "user id". I
suppose you could have different partitions get booted depending on who
logged into the boot manager. George gets Windows 98 in one partition
while Martha gets Windows XP in a different partition. Not a bad idea
on a multi-user host. BootMagic has password protection but don't
recall it having a user id list (but which would need some security
measures to provide for admin accounts who are the only ones allowed to
manage this user id list in the boot manager).

free upgrades (1.00-1.99) (registration-key versions only)
- Those are correctly referred to as "updates", not "upgrades".
Anything within the same major version are updates. Most software gives
you this. Nortons, Powerquest, Microsoft, etc. You frequently find
there are updates to your software and you simply download and install
them for free.

If I already didn't have PartitionMagic and DriveImage, this might prove
to be a contender. And now that the biggest software predator in
existence, Symantec, has gobbled up Powerquest, and because Symantec is
a software publisher first and software developer last, alternatives to
PartitionMagic w/BootMagic and DriveImage will get more noticed.
 
"cquirke (MVP Win9x)" said in
I don't like emailing copies of posts, for these reasons:
- if you post to an ng, be prepared to *read* that ng
- I'd have to un-mung my email addy, and I don't need the spam
- others may want to watch the replies
- you could get mauled by a private reply
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- Taking the discussion offline via e-mail is rude to the community.
Share!

- If you have the time to post here then you have the time to return
here to check for replies.

- This isn't a newgroup about rape, porn, whistleblowing, security holes
(and how to exploit them), or anything sensitive or destructive. E-mail
is inappropriate in a public discussion, and rarely is a private
discussion needed.

- Asking or demanding e-mail replies means you are lazy. Why would we
expect you would even bother fixing the problem if you are unwilling to
look for the relies?

- Just say no to spammers pretending to be newbies or idiots in need of
help.

- I'm already reading your post in my news client. I might offer help.
But you want me to jump through more hoops to send you e-mail? Nope, on
to the next post.

- "I don't know how I got here so e-mail me." Again, a spammer
pretending to be an idiot. If they don't know how to copy and paste a
URL from their browser than whatever problem they report is beyond their
comprehension to understand any replies.

"E-mail me directly: ...". Okay, so how would I e-mail you indirectly?
Ummm, rom de rom ... ummm, rom de rom (I'm meditating this message to
you). :)

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