SIMPLE track splitter required (-:

  • Thread starter Thread starter J. P. Gilliver (John)
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I didn't ask a question. I answered one.


I don't have an issue. You do.


You are trying to engage others in irrelevant tangents, no doubt
confused about the topic at hand.
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LOL.
You seem to feel you have the right to do what you want to with LPs.

You bought Windows?
Make a copy, give it away.
Share it with friends.
You cant?

Why not?
You bought it.
You own it.
You, are the master, after all.
It is an old technology.

I find it ****ing funny wintards talk about this shit.
It's ****ing 2nd grader shit.
That's what, Nil.

It's ****ing funny as shit for Linux users to watch Windows
users shit in their pants :)

It makes me laugh.
Hypocrisy some would call it.
I laugh.
 
I didn't ask a question. I answered one.
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With your guess.
I don't have an issue. You do.
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Nah, you think music is free to copy in 47 formats, cause you bought an
album 16 years ago.
You bought Windows 95, that give you any rights to use Windows 7?
You are trying to engage others in irrelevant tangents, no doubt
confused about the topic at hand.
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No doubt you use Windows cause it is free to copy over and over, and use
in whatever format you think you deserve?
Nine dollars in the 70's still holds sway for you.

LOL, at anything you think,
 
Nah, you think music is free to copy in 47 formats, cause you
bought an album 16 years ago.
You bought Windows 95, that give you any rights to use Windows 7?
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You have some trouble sticking with a single thought over the course of
multiple words. But keep trying - you can only get better at it with
practice
 
You have some trouble sticking with a single thought over the course of
multiple words. But keep trying - you can only get better at it with
practice
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Copyright protection.
Get legal advise, or a high school education.
Software, music, dots blinking in a pattern, perfume with the same stink.
 
J. P. Gilliver (John) said:
Can anyone recommend something that will take an mp3 file - such as
might have been created by recording an LP - and split it at silences?
It's for an elderly friend, who _isn't_ computer literate. It must
work on Vista, and be free.

He's until now been using something called "mp3 workshop", which has a
"split at silences" feature, but it doesn't always work. When it
doesn't, it also offers the ability to split at a given point (such as
3'55" in), but for some reason that's not working; the final option it
gives is to split at a percentage, such as 5.2% in, which so far has
always worked, but he's finding working out the percentages rather
beyond him (he's a retired hot-metal printer, not particularly
mathematical).

_Ideally_, it should have adjustable silence-detection level and
adjustable silence-duration - and/or, and perhaps this would be a best
solution, the ability to play back and forth around the potential
splitting point. But above all it must be uncomplicated to use; I've
thought of showing him GoldWave, but I don't think he'd be able to
cope with all its complexities: something that only does (or helps
with) the splitting, but does it well, would probably be best.

(He's putting all his old LPs onto CD.)
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This may be just the thing, except I think it only works on WAV files. A
few years back I used it (CD Wave Editor) to split tracks I recorded
from tape cassettes. I found it pretty easy to use - graphical
interface. You can leave it in default settings or fine tune how long
silence is (and I believe volume level?). It did the job for me.

I see that it is still available and actually says it works in Windows
XP and Vista. It is shareware, but you can use it free for 30 days. Read
for yourself.

http://www.milosoftware.com/en/index.php?body=cdwave.php

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Copyright protection.
Get legal advise, or a high school education.
Software, music, dots blinking in a pattern, perfume with the same
stink.
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QED.

If there really is a coherent idea in there trying desperately to get
out, it might help if you consulted a dictionary and an English
teacher.
 
This may be just the thing, except I think it only works on WAV
files. A few years back I used it (CD Wave Editor) to split tracks
I recorded from tape cassettes. I found it pretty easy to use -
graphical interface. You can leave it in default settings or fine
tune how long silence is (and I believe volume level?). It did the
job for me.

I see that it is still available and actually says it works in
Windows XP and Vista. It is shareware, but you can use it free for
30 days. Read for yourself.

http://www.milosoftware.com/en/index.php?body=cdwave.php
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CD Wave is really good for what it does, but I'm not sure it does what
the OP wants. I know it can't operate on MP3 files, just WAV. And I
haven't noticed any feature that will split a big file into smaller
ones at silent points. But it is very useful for manually splitting the
big file - it displays the wave form and you can easily find the
between-song points by eye, and you can audition the breaks and move
them around until you're satisfied. One of its best features, and the
main reason I use it, is that it makes break points on exact CD Sector
Boundaries. Apparently, Redbook standard audio CDs must have the breaks
at certain multiples of samples. If the breaks are in the right spot,
digital pops can occur there on playback. CD WAVE won't let that
happen.

It is shareware, as you mention, but it's a very nice specialized tool
and well worth the tiny money the author is asking for it.
 
Bill in Co said:
Well, actually the filesize or total number of bytes is kinda irrelevent
here. What IS significant is the actual difference in the hex data
bytes
being stored in the mp3 in each case.
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They were compared byte by byte, The only difference was the addition of
those few bytes.

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Hot-Text wrote on 9/6/2014 7:41 PM:
I use it to record LPs too!


Audacity - Official Site
audacity.sourceforge.netOfficial site

Audacity® is free,
open source,
cross-platform software
for recording
and editing sounds.

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http://www.bing.com/search?q=audaci...=-1&sk=&cvid=76190b681c9b48679f40774bbd06c758
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+1
Just used it recently to break a 12 track record. You set the break
max and it finds any that exceed that. You get a few extra break
detections but before you apply the breaks, you can edit some out.

I also found it great to remove record hiss. You sample one of the
quiet breaks so it knows what the hiss sounds like and then it filters
that hiss out of the whole recording. Then you can apply the splits.
Worked great for my record.

Forgot... you can label the breaks so when it breaks and writes the
tracks, it labels the tracks for you.
 
Copyright protection.
Get legal advise, or a high school education.
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The word is advice, not advise. You advise someone, or you give or
receive advice.

This particular illiteracy is not as common as the confusion of
"it's" and "its", but still it is more common than is should be.

When a customer writes an email describing a tech problem and adds
"Please advice", it is like fingernails on a blackboard. So is your
"get advise".
 
And there is a lot of that going around, admitedly. :-)


Well, that is surprising, if I understand what you're saying here. Did you
use one of those file comparison tools (like Beyond Compare) to scan each
file fully and show the differences in the sectors? Because if that's
generally true, it doesn't make much sense to me, since I know (at least for
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I know that when I digitized my vinyl a couple of buddies had me make a
cd from the mp3s. One told me a short while later he and some buddy were
listening to it in his vehicle and buddy and him got talking about old
days and vinyl sound compared to cds etc. He had to point out to buddy
that what he was listening to, where it came from and how it was made. I
guess buddy after very cafefull listening believed him because he could
hear the occassional tick on the original record. Apparently her thought
he was listening to a store bought modern cd.

I do know that at 64 years old, 192Kbs mp3 and I can't tell the
difference. I consider myself a musician (not pro) for over 40 years now
and have always had a very good stereo so ...
 
Well, that is surprising, if I understand what you're saying here. Did
you use one of those file comparison tools (like Beyond Compare) to scan
each file fully and show the differences in the sectors?
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I used a hex editor. The files weren't low bitrate but not all that high
either; probably 160 CBR.



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Big Al said:
Hot-Text wrote on 9/6/2014 7:41 PM:
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+1
Just used it recently to break a 12 track record. You set the break max
and it finds any that exceed that. You get a few extra break detections
but before you apply the breaks, you can edit some out.
I also found it great to remove record hiss. You sample one of the quiet
breaks so it knows what the hiss sounds like and then it filters that hiss
out of the whole recording. Then you can apply the splits. Worked great
for my record.

Forgot... you can label the breaks so when it breaks and writes the
tracks, it labels the tracks for you.
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Yes that Cool part about it
Labeling the Signal Song
Breaks on a LP Album
Or 8 Trace
and Castanet tapes Album
 
(Thanks Nil, dadiOH, and Bill in Co. as well - I'll get to your
suggestions in time.)

Big Al said:
Hot-Text wrote on 9/6/2014 7:41 PM:
J. P. Gilliver (John) said:
Can anyone recommend something that will take an mp3 file - such as
might have been created by recording an LP - and split it at silences? []
_Ideally_, it should have adjustable silence-detection level and
adjustable silence-duration - and/or, and perhaps this would be a best
solution, the ability to play back and forth around the potential
splitting point. But above all it must be uncomplicated to use; I've
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[]
I use it to record LPs too!


Audacity - Official Site
audacity.sourceforge.netOfficial site

Audacity® is free,
open source,
cross-platform software
for recording
and editing sounds.
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But, I fear, far too complicated for my friend to grasp. He's not really
at ease with the concepts of files and directories/folders, to give you
some idea of his level of computer competence. (When I'm with him he
makes notes: I have difficulty in preventing him noting things like "go
to the 'music' folder", and later making similar notes about "the
'images' folder" when it's the same operation. He is by no means dim:
it's just that computer things are very alien to him.) Opening a file
from within a program looks different from how files/folders are
presented in Windows Explorer, for example, which confuses him.
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I also found it great to remove record hiss. You sample one of the
quiet breaks so it knows what the hiss sounds like and then it filters
that hiss out of the whole recording. Then you can apply the splits.
Worked great for my record.
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GoldWave has something similar. I think it's good for removing mains hum
and its harmonics.
 
J. P. Gilliver (John) said:
Opening a file from within a program looks different from how
files/folders are presented in Windows Explorer, for example, which
confuses him.
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IME it's best to teach easily-confused people *not* to open files from
within programs. Do it from Explorer wherever possible.
 
IME it's best to teach easily-confused people *not* to open files from
within programs. Do it from Explorer wherever possible.
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Interesting. Why do you say that?
 
Interesting. Why do you say that?
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Because it's true. :-)

For many people, drives, folders, and files get confusing. It doesn't
help that when you "File: Open" in an application you get an
Explorer-type window that isn't quite like Explorer, opens at an often
arbitrary-seeming folder, and disappears as soon as you've used it.

In contrast the real Explorer always looks the same, opens at a
predictable folder, and stays there after use in case you want to use it
again. It builds confidence.

The main fly in the ointment is saving documents, and there I haven't
found a way of using the real Explorer window instead of the usual
"Save" dialog boxes. Unfortunately Explorer doesn't have a "Save here"
command.
 
Because it's true. :-)

For many people, drives, folders, and files get confusing. It doesn't
help that when you "File: Open" in an application you get an
Explorer-type window that isn't quite like Explorer, opens at an often
arbitrary-seeming folder, and disappears as soon as you've used it.

In contrast the real Explorer always looks the same, opens at a
predictable folder, and stays there after use in case you want to use it
again. It builds confidence.
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Well, thanks for explaining your point of view, But my experience
isn't like that at all.
 
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